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'09 CA RB Cierre Wood
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Cali_domer
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This is a game week. There will be a game presser. It won't take long to find out if Rees has company watching the game in South Bend.
If there's substance to the rumor, ResLife's determination should take longer and that's the one to be really concerned about. That could cost a semester.
This is Notre Dame, philly, not OSU. Student precedes athlete.
If there's substance to the rumor, ResLife's determination should take longer and that's the one to be really concerned about. That could cost a semester.
This is Notre Dame, philly, not OSU. Student precedes athlete.
Getting to point where I'm a bit nervous opening up IE in the morning. Anyway, maybe I'm too optimistic, but it seems like Riddick is ready for a break out year and that there won't be a drop-off at the number 1 position - and that getting GAIII significant carries for 1-3 games may ultimately be a good thing for the season. I think these guys can get it done even against MSU.
Wonder what this does for Woods leaving early. May be enough to drop him a round or two, particularly if other two guys dominate in their opportunities? Woods is to blame for this, but think this is a more minor offense than a DUI (by far), so wonder how a 3 game ban is justified (although it sounds like it may be only a game).
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Hate to bring this up, but what if the rumor is true and Wood is out the first two games and one of GAIII or Theo gets injured during one of said games? Is Amir healthy enough? Do we rely on Cam McDaniel as a back up? Is Will Mahone out of the question? Or do we ride with the healthy one of GAIII/Theo to take all the carries?
Just a thought...a grim, grim thought.
Just a thought...a grim, grim thought.
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DomeLover3
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So wait, I understand theres a semester suspension for being caught at ND with weed... but I have a few questions
What would he do for that one semester? Just take it off? JUCO?
Could he make the argument that he wasn't caught with it (assuming he wasn't and he was found through a test) Or that regular students aren't drug tested.
Ya never know. Maybe theres an appeals board and he could act like Clinton and say he didn't inhale. haha
What would he do for that one semester? Just take it off? JUCO?
Could he make the argument that he wasn't caught with it (assuming he wasn't and he was found through a test) Or that regular students aren't drug tested.
Ya never know. Maybe theres an appeals board and he could act like Clinton and say he didn't inhale. haha
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After the spring game the question was, "how do we get Wood, Riddick AND GAIII the carries they deserve?" Well it looks like we figured a way to help out Riddick and GAIII...
TerryTate
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Seriously? ND Beat writer?
He didn't get caught with it. He "tested positive for it" apparently. There's a difference between getting caught by the police with weed and testing positive for it.
Consider this situation as the same thing as when you see every other NCAA team with people that violate "internal team rules"
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DomeLover3
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Ah, I hadn't heard that he tested positive for it. I was unsure of if he was found with it on him, which would be possession and much more serious..
Thanks for clarifying TT
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Please note my qualifications. I don't know the official story as of yet
It's not a question of what you, I, or the Legal System think about drugs or DUI. It's not germane. ND has a Student Code of Conduct which is administered by the Office of Residence Life for all students.
Sanctions vary but in the past possession (see Kyle McAlarney) resulted in a Semester Suspension from Extracurricular Activities. Mike Ragone was arrested for speeding and the cop found MJ in his girl friend's purse. I believe in his case, she was determined to be in possession. ResLife doesn't make student sanctions public.
Kelly can impose team sanctions on an athlete but at ND ResLife trumps coaches.
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irishff1014
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This is disappointing. I thought after the good season last year Wood would have been ready to eat this season up. But it shows he hasn't grown up. But i do think we can win with out him.
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Why are the student Code of Conduct and Res Life's policies and decisions above questioning? They are just as capable of being wrong as anyone else.
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GBdomer
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Did Ragone even get suspended? I forget. I'll be shocked if its more than one game.
Try reading what I wrote, counselor.
We can question and rant till the cows come home but we have no standing in the process, do we?
ResLife isn't a legal proceeding but rather an administrative process which we aren't a party to, are we?
So are opinions are relevant to the process, are they?
The fallibility or infallibility of ResLife isn't at issue. Nice red herring.
If you feel so strongly on the issue why don't you provide legal counsel to ND Students who run afoul of their code of conduct.
Not sure when the litmus test for a board posting is whether my opinion matters. Anyway, the distinction between Reslife and Kelly is irrelevant to my point. Both have to make decisions on the matter unless I am missing something. Reslife didn't suspend for a DUI, so not sure what the logic would be for a suspension in this case. Then moving on to Kelly, but again using Floyd's case as context, not sure why Woods would be forced to ride the pine for a multiple games.
But the real purpose of my post was to express that I think we have equal talent (maybe better?) in Riddick and that getting GAIII reps might be a silver lining.
There is no litmus test for board posting. Whatever our opinions are they aren't relevant to a ResLife Hearing. The Code of Conduct isn't going to change based on an opinion poll here.
ResLife has a range of actions for various infractions from warning to expulsion depending upon severity. ResLife did suspend Powers-Neal for a DUI for a semester consistent with their policy. Back at the time Weis noted at a pressed that P-N would be back on the team for for the bowl game. A day or two later Weis corrected himself and noted that he incorrectly thought that the bowl game was AFTER the semester suspension ended but he learned that although classes were completed the bowl game fell within the Fall Semester per the ND calendar. Thus P-N was still under suspension from All Student Extracurricular Activities. IF P-N had been on the Debating Team or The Glee Club he would not have been permitted to participate.
John Cerasani got a semester suspension for punching a football teammate outside a local bar. The other guy had made a crude joke about Cerasani's terminally ill mother.
Stonebreaker who was an All-American LB on probation and banned from driving on campus following a DUI. A campus cop stopped him for driving on campus (moving a car in a parking lot to keep a roommate from getting a ticket) and Stoney sat at an entire season under a ResLife Semester Suspension from Exracurricular Actvities.
The difference with Floyd was Kelly immediately suspended Floyd from football activities from the Spring Semester. That had never been done before. Coaches always waited to hear what ResLife decided. I believe Floyd got the usual Semester ban by ResLife BUT was allowed to use "time served". Kelly didn't go to ResLife to plead Floyd's case. Coaches can't do that at ND. Rather finessed the timing of the situation by grounding Floyd and getting him into counseling/diversion before he went to court or before ResLife. Realize Father Jenkins had appointed a new head of ResLife before Floyd's infraction. Had Kelly not suspended Floyd for The Spring, ResLife probably would have done so the next semester after their hearing which was S.O.P.
As for TR or GA filling in, IF Necessary, they are capable. Personally, I'd like to have the proven 1,000 yd rusher available even if beaten out for job on the field. The more experienced personnel on the field the easier it will be for Golson to succeed.
ND Drug Testing Policy
ND Drug Testing Policy
Dated Nov 4, 2010
http://ncaacompliance.nd.edu/drug.testing.shtml
The first table is NCAA. The second table is UND.
http://ncaacompliance.nd.edu/documents/2011_12BannedDrugList.pdf
Go to page 2, number 5.
N.B. This is not du Lac.
ND Drug Testing Policy
Dated Nov 4, 2010
http://ncaacompliance.nd.edu/drug.testing.shtml
The first table is NCAA. The second table is UND.
http://ncaacompliance.nd.edu/documents/2011_12BannedDrugList.pdf
Go to page 2, number 5.
N.B. This is not du Lac.
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IrishMoore1
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Don't forget about Joseph Fauria who got a semester suspension for streaking. He subsequently transferred to UCLA after Res Life made this decision.
First post here, but for the people saying that res life would suspend him for the semester if true, I dont think he would be practicing with the team if that were the case. I think if the whole "paper work" cover up has any merit than his suspension has been determined.
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He speaketh the truth!!!
Seriously though, am I the only one who thinks that our stable is more than capable of carrying the load against MSU?
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Bogtrotter07
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No.
If guilty Wood deserves a suspension. As someone else said, if you did this at work you'd get fired permanently.
GAIII looked pretty good in the spring game. If Wood is suspended, he may return to find himself number three on the depth chart with both Riddick and Atkinson ahead of him. We need leadership on this team, and Wood was in a position to be that leader on the offensive side. He let himself and the team down. Nothing else needs to be said.
GAIII looked pretty good in the spring game. If Wood is suspended, he may return to find himself number three on the depth chart with both Riddick and Atkinson ahead of him. We need leadership on this team, and Wood was in a position to be that leader on the offensive side. He let himself and the team down. Nothing else needs to be said.
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Bogtrotter07
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Guilty of what?
If Wood had a joint in his possession, this situation would be unfolding differently.
If he tests positive for something it is probably THC the active ingredient in better living through chemestry - weed edition.
Then the questions are three: How much? How old or when? and Why didn't he drink that herbal tea that masks the results?
My gut says this is going to really be a stupid @ss thing.
If Wood had a joint in his possession, this situation would be unfolding differently.
If he tests positive for something it is probably THC the active ingredient in better living through chemestry - weed edition.
Then the questions are three: How much? How old or when? and Why didn't he drink that herbal tea that masks the results?
My gut says this is going to really be a stupid @ss thing.
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Irish Houstonian
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Someone get this guy a whizzinator.
The age doesn't matter. I believe it's simply a positive or negative test result.
I could not find anything in ND printed material on THC in your system, versus possession (external, not in your system). I would think, ResLifewise, a positive test for consumption is different than possession ala McAlarney but that's conjecture on my part.
I never read if Ragone was tested. With his nagging injuries and buried on the depth chart, he could have missed a game for a suspension, due to a failed test not possession, and who would have noticed?