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How illuminating and troubling. I bet you consider Harrison Bergeron to represent your idyllic society. Harrison Bergeron - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Don't know the guy at all. From what I have read F Allen Hayek says it best. Markets are the most equitable way to insure liberty, and the governments job is to make sure that everyone can compete fairly in those markets. (paraphrased) How you like those apples? j/k
 
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Redbar,

Maybe I'm thrown by your use of "fairness." I don't remember Hayek referencing "fairness." Rather, he emphasized that government's role is to provide a system of rules and conditions in which fertile, robust competition can take place.
 

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Just like winning Attorneys share their winnings with the losing Attorneys, right?


BTW, how many of the "A"s you earned in Law School did you give to the least fortunate student that only got "C"s?

And yet a winning Marine who made it through battle unscathed will risk his winning status to help a losing Marine wounded and pinned by enemy forces make it home alive. If only we all lived with that conviction.
 
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Redbar,

Maybe I'm thrown by your use of "fairness." I don't remember Hayek referencing "fairness." Rather, he emphasized that government's role is to provide a system of rules and conditions in which fertile, robust competition can take place.

OK semantics. Well at any rate, I will hold onto the part where you said something I said was illuminating. He also said something to the effect that the only thing worse than tyranny by oligarchy or monopoly is tyranny by government. I say lets not insure one because of our fear of the other.
 
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I believe Brutus listed earlier some parts of the nation that Rally inquired were more liberal in demographic. I know one of those areas extremely well and while I don't know that they are more liberal, they certainly are more something else. Which may have been closer to what Rally really meant.

Like what you have to say Redbar. Just to be clear I listed places in the US I have lived in, spent quite a bit of time in and or visited recently that to me rivaled some of the third world ghettos I've been to and or spent time in. The point being that based on my experiences there are people living in third world conditions right here in the US.
 

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Like what you have to say Redbar. Just to be clear I listed places in the US I have lived in, spent quite a bit of time in and or visited recently that to me rivaled some of the third world ghettos I've been to and or spent time in. The point being that based on my experiences there are people living in third world conditions right here in the US.

Claro, Bluto. I understood your point fine, but I should apologize for referring to you as Brutus.
 

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Great vids Buster. Here is a post to an interactive graph of the Health and Wealth of Nations. Until the global standard of living increases closer to ours, it will be hard for the working class to see real wage growth. However, our poor live better than 18th century kings for the most part. And being born in Congo today versus USA pre-1900 is worth about 20% longer life expectancy.

Gapminder World
 

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Everyone should watch these:

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Interesting, but the fact that he lets the students do so much talking makes it a little hard to follow. The mic that the students are using isn't picked up at all.
 

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Any data that would tend to show this should be automatically dismissed as invalid. This idea is absurd on its face.

I like air conditioning but maybe there is a case for being fanned by women while they feed me grapes . Just think of the value of antibiotics to cleanse the kings harem, or dental care and plastic surgery to reduce the need for veils and dark lighting. And Viagra to help said king properly appreciate this "improved" harem!

I will admit cable television may be a net detractor to quality of life.
 

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Any remaining defenders of Teachers' Unions should read this. I don't think people realize just how bad it's gotten:

NYC can’t fire this $100,049-a-year teacher pulled from the classroom 11 years ago - NYPOST.com

“If these people are actually dangerous, it’s better to waste the money than to put them back with kids.”

What a telling quote from the article. I like how his $85K/year pension grows $1700 per year so he stalls and he thinks he is screwing the system by building that up. He would have to collect that extra $1700 for 50 years to make up for the one year of pension he could have collected. Here's to hoping he croaks before "retiring" so he doesn't collect any of it, that would be called Karma.
 
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