Trump Presidency

[TorontoGold]

I mean, it’s totally fine to say Trump sucks. People who “support” Trump have been pretty vocal about his issues.

That’s completely separate from Biden though. You don’t need to evaluate Biden based on some relative comparison to Trump. You can just look at him independently and make a judgement call. Now, for voting that’s not necessarily the case given the bullshit two party system.

But hating on Trump and ignoring all Biden’s issues is just dishonest. It’s no big deal to say Biden is terrible, but Trump is more terrible, so what are you gonna do? But deciding that all the Biden corruption is either ignorable or whatever because you don’t like Trump is silly.

Nobody is gonna think you’re a Nazi if you criticize Biden a little bit (Hopefully). But, the inverse is true. If you ignore all Biden’s issues because you hate Trump, you’re gonna seem like you’re just party biased.

I think it's best to wait for a legitimate (I know I know FBI is a cabal of angry democrats) investigation before going YUP 100% Biden is corrupt. Just like Steele Dossier, wait until there is some investigation into the legitimacy. I do find it rich though a lot of Trump people on IE are already full boar into the Biden China stuff while howling about the Steele Dossier and how it was inappropriate to talk about the Steele Dossier. Like, without a single shred of irony.

Anyways, what's wrong with being biased towards who you support? I mean, I've seen a poster on this very site state that they trust Russia (!) more than the Democrats. Not a peep was said from anyone on that. I don't think there is truly anyone who's not biased towards their preferred candidate in this election. You want to support a candidate, lean into it, the facade that some pull about being totally non-biased is a farce.

 

[PraetorianND]

I think it's best to wait for a legitimate (I know I know FBI is a cabal of angry democrats) investigation before going YUP 100% Biden is corrupt. Just like Steele Dossier, wait until there is some investigation into the legitimacy. I do find it rich though a lot of Trump people on IE are already full boar into the Biden China stuff while howling about the Steele Dossier and how it was inappropriate to talk about the Steele Dossier. Like, without a single shred of irony.

Anyways, what's wrong with being biased towards who you support? I mean, I've seen a poster on this very site state that they trust Russia (!) more than the Democrats. Not a peep was said from anyone on that. I don't think there is truly anyone who's not biased towards their preferred candidate in this election. You want to support a candidate, lean into it, the facade that some pull about being totally non-biased is a farce.

Wait..... the entire media ran with the Steele Dossier and Russia collusion. So much so that people here STILL believe it....

What’s wrong with being biased??? Do you really need me to answer this question? I think it’s fine, and admirable, to acknowledge your bias. But arguing that bias isn’t bad seems weird.

 

[TorontoGold]

Wait..... the entire media ran with the Steele Dossier and Russia collusion. So much so that people here STILL believe it....

What’s wrong with being biased??? Do you really need me to answer this question? I think it’s fine, and admirable, to acknowledge your bias. But arguing that bias isn’t bad seems weird.

These two can both be analyzed separately, but I'll wait for the investigations to be wrapped up before making a judgement on the collusion stuff either way.

Well, bias isn't a Yes/No question, you understand that I'm sure. Like obviously I'm more biased to democrats but I still think Obama continuing the practice of destabilizing the middle east is heinous.

But, I draw the line at trusting Putin over the opposing party. Like, you acknowledge that's an issue right?

 

[arahop]

I mean, it’s totally fine to say Trump sucks. People who “support” Trump have been pretty vocal about his issues.

That’s completely separate from Biden though. You don’t need to evaluate Biden based on some relative comparison to Trump. You can just look at him independently and make a judgement call. Now, for voting that’s not necessarily the case given the bullshit two party system.

But hating on Trump and ignoring all Biden’s issues is just dishonest. It’s no big deal to say Biden is terrible, but Trump is more terrible, so what are you gonna do? But deciding that all the Biden corruption is either ignorable or whatever because you don’t like Trump is silly.

Nobody is gonna think you’re a Nazi if you criticize Biden a little bit (Hopefully). But, the inverse is true. If you ignore all Biden’s issues because you hate Trump, you’re gonna seem like you’re just party biased.

Can you elaborate on the clear evidence of Biden's "corruption'
Because the Hail Mary Hunter "scandal" isn't enough.
And it's not proven.

 

[PraetorianND]

These two can both be analyzed separately, but I'll wait for the investigations to be wrapped up before making a judgement on the collusion stuff either way.

Well, bias isn't a Yes/No question, you understand that I'm sure. Like obviously I'm more biased to democrats but I still think Obama continuing the practice of destabilizing the middle east is heinous.

But, I draw the line at trusting Putin over the opposing party. Like, you acknowledge that's an issue right?

The problem I want to highlight though is that the media had no problem running with the Steele dossier... nobody was ever like, hey we should wait for this to get validated before we slam the hell out of this candidate. In fact, the FBI failed to even validate it too..

That’s the primary issue I see here. Where was the abundance of caution in that case?

I’m a due process guy so I’m happy to wait as well. Let’s just be fair for everyone’s sake.

 

[TorontoGold]

The problem I want to highlight though is that the media had no problem running with the Steele dossier... nobody was ever like, hey we should wait for this to get validated before we slam the hell out of this candidate. In fact, the FBI failed to even validate it too..

That’s the primary issue I see here. Where was the abundance of caution in that case?

I’m a due process guy so I’m happy to wait as well. Let’s just be fair for everyone’s sake.

Right, that's an issue too.

Seems like a lot of people are upset at the Steele Dossier stuff yet the Comey announcement in 2016, or the FBI in NYC leaking to Devin Nunes or Rudy are just A-OK.

Anyways, everything sucks nothing will get better. Go irish! lmao

 

[PraetorianND]

Right, that's an issue too.

Seems like a lot of people are upset at the Steele Dossier stuff yet the Comey announcement in 2016, or the FBI in NYC leaking to Devin Nunes or Rudy are just A-OK.

Anyways, everything sucks nothing will get better. Go irish! lmao

Ya all that shit is bad lol.

Haha go Irish

 

[dublinirish]

It would be *insane* to compare a regular dude to RUDY GUILIANI who's been in the public view for just about forever.

If you're a guy who's as important as that you're not slamming whatever piece of meat comes your way.

Let alone she's supposed to be a JOURNALIST, a decent person is likely not going to be making advances on someone that's supposed to interview them.

It's scummy and weird.

plus the actress had already told him her character was meant to be 15 years old lol

 

[PraetorianND]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">HUGE win today for the United States and for peace in the world. Sudan has agreed to a peace and normalization agreement with Israel! With the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain, that’s THREE Arab countries to have done so in only a matter of weeks. More will follow! <a href="https://t.co/UHB8H6oaZc">pic.twitter.com/UHB8H6oaZc</a></p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1319683876046934016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Irish YJ]

I think it's best to wait for a legitimate (I know I know FBI is a cabal of angry democrats) investigation before going YUP 100% Biden is corrupt. Just like Steele Dossier, wait until there is some investigation into the legitimacy. I do find it rich though a lot of Trump people on IE are already full boar into the Biden China stuff while howling about the Steele Dossier and how it was inappropriate to talk about the Steele Dossier. Like, without a single shred of irony.

Anyways, what's wrong with being biased towards who you support? I mean, I've seen a poster on this very site state that they trust Russia (!) more than the Democrats. Not a peep was said from anyone on that. I don't think there is truly anyone who's not biased towards their preferred candidate in this election. You want to support a candidate, lean into it, the facade that some pull about being totally non-biased is a farce.

There's a huge difference in the two situations.

Collusion delusion - no tangible evidence ever. Even subsource said is unverified bar rumor. Then abuse of FISA process, and went after folks for unrelated process crimes.

China Joe's situation - FBI in possession of laptop. Biden associate verified emails. Bidens are not denying the authenticity of laptop or emails.

BTW, there is no more collusion delusion investigations ( you mentioned you were waiting on the end)

 

[Irish YJ]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">HUGE win today for the United States and for peace in the world. Sudan has agreed to a peace and normalization agreement with Israel! With the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain, that’s THREE Arab countries to have done so in only a matter of weeks. More will follow! <a href="https://t.co/UHB8H6oaZc">pic.twitter.com/UHB8H6oaZc</a></p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1319683876046934016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I find the thought of Israel and Saudi potentially normalizing relations delicious. Iran has to be both pissed and scared thinking about the long term impacts. The fact that Bahrain, a Shia majority country, has already normalized, is just wild to me.

 

[TorontoGold]

There's a huge difference in the two situations.

Collusion delusion - no tangible evidence ever. Even subsource said is unverified bar rumor. Then abuse of FISA process, and went after folks for unrelated process crimes.

China Joe's situation - FBI in possession of laptop. Biden associate verified emails. Bidens are not denying the authenticity of laptop or emails.

BTW, there is no more collusion delusion investigations ( you mentioned you were waiting on the end)

I see Mr. Gowdy has logged on...

"If its what you say, I love it" - I'm not going down the Russia Trump rabbit hole, but it's laughable to say "no tangible evidence".

We saw last week (or the week prior?) that the Egyptian bank investigation was just closed. There's plenty of investigations going on.

 

[Irish YJ]

I see Mr. Gowdy has logged on...

"If its what you say, I love it" - I'm not going down the Russia Trump rabbit hole, but it's laughable to say "no tangible evidence".

We saw last week (or the week prior?) that the Egyptian bank investigation was just closed. There's plenty of investigations going on.

What tangible evidence was there for the collusion delusion? Please enlighten me.

What did the Egyptian investigation have to do with the Russian Collusion Delusion? Nothing. They were trying to prove Trump donated his own money to his own campaign. Talk about dumb investigations...

 

[TorontoGold]

What tangible evidence was there for the collusion delusion? Please enlighten me.

What did the Egyptian investigation have to do with the Russian Collusion Delusion? Nothing. They were trying to prove Trump donated his own money to his own campaign. Talk about dumb investigations...

Lmao the totally chill and normal meeting Don Jr had.

My point is that investigations are still going on as we speak. You knew about the Egypt investigation, and made a bad faith statement saying no investigations are going on. You gotta try better Trey....

 

[Irish YJ]

Lmao the totally chill and normal meeting Don Jr had.

My point is that investigations are still going on as we speak. You knew about the Egypt investigation, and made a bad faith statement saying no investigations are going on. You gotta try better Trey....

Dude, The Egyptian investigation has ZERO to do with the Russian Collusion Delusion..... which is the topic... The Egyptian delusion precluded even the Russian Collusion Delusion.

The Trump Tower meeting for oppo? Bahaha... If that's tangible, better lock HRC up for paying for paying a subsource that was a suspected Russian spy. You're reaching.

 

[drayer54]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">HUGE win today for the United States and for peace in the world. Sudan has agreed to a peace and normalization agreement with Israel! With the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain, that’s THREE Arab countries to have done so in only a matter of weeks. More will follow! <a href="https://t.co/UHB8H6oaZc">pic.twitter.com/UHB8H6oaZc</a></p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1319683876046934016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Trump has delivered on peace abroad. ISIS is destroyed and our troops are not fighting foolish wars.

 

[Irish YJ]

Trump has delivered on peace abroad. ISIS is destroyed and our troops are not fighting foolish wars.

Love the bolded. No reason to send our boys anywhere. Let folks fight their own wars. If we want to help, got plenty of drones, missiles, and bombers. If someone messes with us, that's a different story.

Can't wait for Biden to start sending more troops overseas, paying for Euro defense, and blowing up shit just so he can make money on rebuilding.

 

[drayer54]

Love the bolded. No reason to send our boys anywhere. Let folks fight their own wars. If we want to help, got plenty of drones, missiles, and bombers. If someone messes with us, that's a different story.

Can't wait for Biden to start sending more troops overseas, paying for Euro defense, and blowing up shit just so he can make money on rebuilding.

Not only will Biden pay for their defense, but we’ll fork over the cash to pretend we’re helping the environment.

 

[Irish YJ]

Not only will Biden pay for their defense, but we’ll fork over the cash to pretend we’re helping the environment.

I love the whole narrative from the dems "Trump has been mean to our friends"......

Really? lol... What a crock of shit. The GDP of the combined Euro NATO countries is near, or more than the US. We're around 20T, and I think just the EU alone is 16 or 17T. That's 10 times the GDP of Russia, the country they are worried about. Germany and other countries not paying their share, sorry, F them.

If you have a friend in TX, who makes as much as you, do you feel obligated to pay their ADT bill? We've been subsidizing them since the last great war. I think we've done enough.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">HUGE win today for the United States and for peace in the world. Sudan has agreed to a peace and normalization agreement with Israel! With the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain, that’s THREE Arab countries to have done so in only a matter of weeks. More will follow! <a href="https://t.co/UHB8H6oaZc">pic.twitter.com/UHB8H6oaZc</a></p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1319683876046934016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This guy really sucks at being the next Hitler.

 

[drayer54]

This guy really sucks at being the next Hitler.

I miss real leadership back when these trade deals were called impossible and we launched drone strikes everyday, even possibly aimed at Americans.

 

[PraetorianND]

So the CCP just dropped a video of Hunter smoking crack and getting.... serviced... by a Chinese woman....

Yeah... not sure it’s family friendly enough to post here. They said they will continue dropping videos.

This should be... interesting.

 

[Irish YJ]

So the CCP just dropped a video of Hunter smoking crack and getting.... serviced... by a Chinese woman....

Yeah... not sure it’s family friendly enough to post here. They said they will continue dropping videos.

This should be... interesting.

just post the link

 

[PraetorianND]

https://gnews.org/449933/

Not safe for life...

Apparently they are dropping more stuff from the laptop every hour.

 

[TorontoGold]

So the CCP just dropped a video of Hunter smoking crack and getting.... serviced... by a Chinese woman....

Yeah... not sure it’s family friendly enough to post here. They said they will continue dropping videos.

This should be... interesting.

No big news orgs have tweeted about?

I was fully expected Trey's fave RT to have it lol

 

[PraetorianND]

No big news orgs have tweeted about?

I was fully expected Trey's fave RT to have it lol

Of course they haven’t.

This is also minutes old.

 

[Irish YJ]

No big news orgs have tweeted about?

I was fully expected Trey's fave RT to have it lol

I don't even know what a RT is. You seem to be the guy familiar with whackos and dark places...

 

[PraetorianND]

Apparently they are dropping more every hour. They dropped another video and image of hunter.... doin... stuff.

I’m not gonna link and post it all though.

 

[TorontoGold]

Go check out who runs "gnews" and his various ties and business dealings. LOL

The pictures/videos of dead beat son really shouldn't stir anyone. This is like the Stormy thing, except 1) Joey isn't the one in the video 2)No campaign finance issues 3) Joe isn't the one in the video 4 oh, Joe isn't in the video and wife isn't at home pregnant with his kid.

Give me some verified finance crimes instead of the nepotism and being shit people, especially with the modern day hapsburgs pushing it is "low energy".

 

[PraetorianND]

Go check out who runs "gnews" and his various ties and business dealings. LOL

The pictures/videos of dead beat son really shouldn't stir anyone. This is like the Stormy thing, except 1) Joey isn't the one in the video 2)No campaign finance issues 3) Joe isn't the one in the video 4 oh, Joe isn't in the video and wife isn't at home pregnant with his kid.

Give me some verified finance crimes instead of the nepotism and being shit people, especially with the modern day hapsburgs pushing it is "low energy".

Why wouldn’t you just wait to find out?

So funny. It’s fine to be skeptical. It’s another to dismiss out of hand.

We already know the dude is a crackhead that impregnated a stripper. This isn’t some crazy stretch...

Once more comes out I’m sure you’ll be screaming deep fake also.