Trump Presidency Round 2

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I'm just waiting to see how this plays out in the long term. It's starting well with a highly successful op. Amazing that no US lives were lost.

Great briefing by Caine.

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But, oil? Damn!
 
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These people clearly miss their open borders. This the kind of success they want to bring back-

We watched a senile man allow an invasion of god knows who by the millions while the world went from peace to war and the President was autopenning radical orders and handouts to buy votes from student loans in open defiance of the courts and they have the balls to pretend that screwing up one guy while trying to fix this epic blunder is the crisis of our time. Give me a break. Biden left a damn train wreck and it isn’t a quick fix. There’s a reason they are not in power.



How far we've come! We went from the peaceful dove president in spring 2025 to the guy who wants troops on the ground running a country, and wants to have the oligarchs rape the resources of the country. Surely raping and pillaging a country will lead to endless stability and there won't be any knock on effects to future migrants leaving and arriving at the border!

Open defiance of the courts! L O L

If Xi Jinping just captured the president of the Philippines this board would melt down (that would be the correct response).

Gunna be really exciting to watch the justifications come in from all of the esteemed corners of the IE MAGA folks.
 

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How far we've come! We went from the peaceful dove president in spring 2025 to the guy who wants troops on the ground running a country, and wants to have the oligarchs rape the resources of the country. Surely raping and pillaging a country will lead to endless stability and there won't be any knock on effects to future migrants leaving and arriving at the border!

Open defiance of the courts! L O L

If Xi Jinping just captured the president of the Philippines this board would melt down (that would be the correct response).

Gunna be really exciting to watch the justifications come in from all of the esteemed corners of the IE MAGA folks.
Maduro is NOT the duly elected head of state. So your analogy kind of sucks.
 

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Oh no did these people forget to check with internet progressives for permission??





We get it, you're mad that Donald Trump did something popular and even more mad that something bad happened to a Communist.
 

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The Toronto Twink has an Agenda. He'll move forward regardless of what actually occurs. Meanwhile, many will take a wait-and-see approach of how this actually turns out.
 

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How far we've come! We went from the peaceful dove president in spring 2025 to the guy who wants troops on the ground running a country, and wants to have the oligarchs rape the resources of the country. Surely raping and pillaging a country will lead to endless stability and there won't be any knock on effects to future migrants leaving and arriving at the border!

Open defiance of the courts! L O L

If Xi Jinping just captured the president of the Philippines this board would melt down (that would be the correct response).

Gunna be really exciting to watch the justifications come in from all of the esteemed corners of the IE MAGA folks.
The a-hole that Dems apprently love based on interviews this morning is the guy who sent gangs through Biden’s open borders. Kicking China and Russia’s hand to ~17T$ worth of oil makes the world more secure and is good news for Taiwan and bad news for Cuba. Biden’s dumbass policy had people running through our border, not Trumps. I’m sure your lovely characterization of how Trump will manage the Venezuelan transition is spot-on.

Love this one-
 

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Maduro is NOT the duly elected head of state. So your analogy kind of sucks.
Duly elected does not matter *one iota*, if someone is actually a threat you don't twiddle your thumbs and go "ermm he's the President!". Since when has being duly elected even mattered for regime change? Allende and Mossadegh?

Installing your own puppet state openly like Trump did is fucking retarded. Then, on top of that saying you're going to bring in your oil buddies to rape the resources is another unforced error.

Foreign policy for adults would be something like what the US has with Israel. Foreign policy for neckbeards who think COD is real life is doing what Trump is doing in Venezuela.

Have Maduro killed by rebels or "fall out of a window". Long term Venezuela is not going to like being ruled by Exxon, of course they are happy now that Maduro is gone but it's just replaced with US entities.
 

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The Toronto Twink has an Agenda. He'll move forward regardless of what actually occurs. Meanwhile, many will take a wait-and-see approach of how this actually turns out.

If I had an agenda I'm sure you wouldn't read it. Would require you to read more than a few words, and we know how much that troubles you.
 

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Lmao. What a donk post, TT.

So is your commentary on oil companies raping the country of its resources. Like, hello- Maduro/Chavez anyone? Loved how that money trickled down to the people.
If I had an agenda I'm sure you wouldn't read it. Would require you to read more than a few words, and we know how much that troubles you.
 

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Lmao. What a donk post, TT.

So is your commentary on oil companies raping the country of its resources. Like, hello- Maduro/Chavez anyone? Loved how that money trickled down to the people.

Lmao I love how the idea is “Maduro and Chavez were bad……so let’s insert a foreign government and it’s favorite chosen few companies to extract the resources” is supposed to be a salient plan.

You are literally breeding another destabilizing entity. I do not care if Maduro is skinned alive on prime time.

Kill the guy, and support the locals. But that’s too wild of a concept. I remember when MAGA wanted to focus on Americans and not endless wars with regime change, wild how MAGA just turned out to be typical liberal interventionism with just culture war shit.
 

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I'll be the first to call them out and have already stated that I'm watching how this goes. It's called reading and understanding someone's POV. You failing to do that is no surprise.
 

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I'll be the first to call them out and have already stated that I'm watching how this goes. It's called reading and understanding someone's POV. You failing to do that is no surprise.
You also always say that anyone who uses ad hominems loses an argument, yet you referred to me as the Toronto Twink? I guess we can drop that little guise of being this principled fence sitter, yeah?

I understand your POV quite clearly, can you articulate mine?
 

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Classic misstatement. I don't ALWAYS say something.

I didn't name you a Twink; others did, which made me laugh, as I find it an apt descriptor. At least in my mind. So yes, poor form, but hey, it's a new year.

And to answer your question, Yes.
 

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Classic misstatement. I don't ALWAYS say something.

I didn't name you a Twink; others did, which made me laugh, as I find it an apt descriptor. At least in my mind. So yes, poor form, but hey, it's a new year.

And to answer your question, Yes.
lol just own it, be a man. It’s ok to say mean things! Just don’t be a pussy about it.

Then explain what you think my position is and why I am wrong from it.
 

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How many questions are you going to ask? Your original Q was answered. I've asked you plenty, and nary an answer. I believe others have called it one part of the "Toronto Vortex".

You crack me the F up. Be a man and then pussy. Bwahaha....
 

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I answer every one of your questions lol you just scurry away when I respond because you don’t know how to or don’t feel capable to respond. It’s not just me that sees this, you’ve got quite the reputation in the football threads for running away.

No man gets scared of owning their position. It’s a shame you’re always trying to give the credit to others.

I hope you can find your voice and courage in 2026, it’s probably causing a lot of internal strife so best of luck figuring all that out.
 

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How do you know the vast majority of Pelosi’s wealth is built off her keen eye for the stock market but not what she’s actually worth?

Do you not find it a bit odd that you only appear to know how Pelosi is wealthy but not Scott? If you were genuinely curious, and not just trying to equate the two as to make it seem like they’re both equally bad, what is your opinion on Rick Scott now that your question is answered?

Also, a side interest of this discussion for me is how exactly you think Pelosi built her wealth. Remember, it’s a side interest so if you don’t want to indulge me that’s totally ok if you don’t want to.
I’m no fan of Scott getting his wealth from what was posted. I’m no fan of any of these politicians getting wealthy from any corruption or using specific info that is not available to the average Joe, or getting it before it becomes available to the average Joe. There have been a number of articles discussing Pelosi’s wealth when she went into congress and her current wealth. Given her salary over the years there’s no way she could accumulate that wealth without help.
 

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Duly elected does not matter *one iota*, if someone is actually a threat you don't twiddle your thumbs and go "ermm he's the President!". Since when has being duly elected even mattered for regime change? Allende and Mossadegh?

Installing your own puppet state openly like Trump did is fucking retarded. Then, on top of that saying you're going to bring in your oil buddies to rape the resources is another unforced error.

Foreign policy for adults would be something like what the US has with Israel. Foreign policy for neckbeards who think COD is real life is doing what Trump is doing in Venezuela.

Have Maduro killed by rebels or "fall out of a window". Long term Venezuela is not going to like being ruled by Exxon, of course they are happy now that Maduro is gone but it's just replaced with US entities.
Already threatening democratically elected figures

 

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I answer every one of your questions lol you just scurry away when I respond because you don’t know how to or don’t feel capable to respond. It’s not just me that sees this, you’ve got quite the reputation in the football threads for running away.

No man gets scared of owning their position. It’s a shame you’re always trying to give the credit to others.

I hope you can find your voice and courage in 2026, it’s probably causing a lot of internal strife so best of luck figuring all that out.
You don't answer questions, in particular mine. False statements again.

I state my positions when I have one. I merely point out ridiculous/emotional/unhinged posts. What's hilarious is that I have had rational unemotional discussions within these pages with those who disagree with me. Something you have NEVER had. People know where I stand-hell, you know where I stand, and to say otherwise is disingenuous. Which is exactly what I and many others believe you to be-disingenuous. Oh, and a Twink. :ROFLMAO:
 

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Already threatening democratically elected figures



Just trying to get them to back up their commitments? Mexico promised to get tough on the drug lords but really hasn’t done too much. IIRC, Colombia has elections this year.

 

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I’m no fan of Scott getting his wealth from what was posted. I’m no fan of any of these politicians getting wealthy from any corruption or using specific info that is not available to the average Joe, or getting it before it becomes available to the average Joe. There have been a number of articles discussing Pelosi’s wealth when she went into congress and her current wealth. Given her salary over the years there’s no way she could accumulate that wealth without help.

That's all fine and dandy, but they aren't equal. Scott lead one of the biggest health care fraud schemes in US history.

Pelosi married into wealth and used her connections to be a corrupt politician.

Trying to recenter the discussion on "both parties" only is ever done to serve the GOP.
 

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You don't answer questions, in particular mine. False statements again.

I state my positions when I have one. I merely point out ridiculous/emotional/unhinged posts. What's hilarious is that I have had rational unemotional discussions within these pages with those who disagree with me. Something you have NEVER had. People know where I stand-hell, you know where I stand, and to say otherwise is disingenuous. Which is exactly what I and many others believe you to be-disingenuous. Oh, and a Twink. :ROFLMAO:

Show me a post you've made that I didn't answer. I seem to remember a question I asked you in the football threads that you've ran away from, it's pretty clear who's the coward here LOL.

Never had? lol when I speak to adults in these threads like NoDak and Virginia, we're able to have rational arguments without spiraling. You can learn a lot by merely observing how they present themselves.
 

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You keep living your fantasy. I'll say it again: disingenuous.
 

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Childish lol, can't even back up your claim. Guess this means back to the cuck chair in the corner.
 

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I'll say it was our initial interaction in the political threads. If you'd like to look it up, feel free. I remember writing you off then, and you have failed to disappoint.
 

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I love how these events show us who Dems really are- power over country, opposition at all costs. They'll defend fraud and Maduro before giving any credit to Trump. Teachers unions reminding us how deeply unserious they are serious.

 
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