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[NDdomer2]

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[RealZibby]

Grayson McCall entered the transfer portal

 

[RealZibby]

 

[NDFAN2008]

Grayson Mccall might have jump to the top of my wish list.
6'3, hes an accurate passer hardly any interceptions, he is a dual threat and throws a nice deep ball.

 

[CanadalovesND]

Following up on my original post, he's visiting ND this weekend.

Appeared in 4 games as a freshman so he has 2 years of eligibility left.

after some further digging, he has only one year left.

He walked-on and redshirted in 2018, played in 2019, had the COVID year in 2020, and played the last two years.

 

[MacIrish75]

It kinda is.

Holy shit dude if you this insufferable off of ND message boards I feel your reflection having to stare back at you on a daily basis.

 

[NDIrish1988]

Grayson Mccall might have jump to the top of my wish list.
6'3, hes an accurate passer hardly any interceptions, he is a dual threat and throws a nice deep ball.

I was wondering if he’d enter the draft.

 

[CanadalovesND]

Grayson Mccall might have jump to the top of my wish list.
6'3, hes an accurate passer hardly any interceptions, he is a dual threat and throws a nice deep ball.

Coastal Carolina runs a version of the triple option. It has some RPO elements, but it's quite gimmicky. I really don't think McCall fits what Rees wants to run. And he's been in it for years.

I also don't like the competition level. CC doesn't play many great teams at all. McCall has only a few P5 teams in his career - I think Kansas twice before they were any good.

I would rather go for a guy that will fit into Rees' offense, and has both quality and quantity starts against P5 teams.

 

[NDIrish1988]

Coastal Carolina runs a version of the triple option. It has some RPO elements, but it's quite gimmicky. I really don't think McCall fits what Rees wants to run. And he's been in it for years.

I also don't like the competition level. CC doesn't play many great teams at all. McCall has only a few P5 teams in his career - I think Kansas twice before they were any good.

I would rather go for a guy that will fit into Rees' offense, and has both quality and quantity starts against P5 teams.

He’s talented enough to be successful outside of that Offense.

 

[CanadalovesND]

He’s talented enough to be successful outside of that Offense.

Could be. But, he's spent years in that offense. He doesn't read coverages... he reads the ends. There is more risk of a flop than a hit.

It's hard to say what he can and can't do. But, to go all-in for a QB transfer that you want to lead your team to a playoff berth.. scheme fit, experience, overall talent are what ND should focus on. McCall has some talent, and he does have experience, but I don't believe ND will dip into the Sun Belt conference to take a QB that runs a completely different system than they do.

There are better options on the board. More talented, with better resumes, and schematically, better fits.

 

[CanadalovesND]

 

[NDIrish1988]

 

[NDIrish1988]

If they don’t get Herron, they’re in trouble.

 

[CanadalovesND]

If they don’t get Herron, they’re in trouble.

Still waiting on why you think Herron fits the Vyper role..

 

[NDIrish1988]

Still waiting on why you think Herron fits the Vyper role..

He was the starting WDE at Stanford. And he’s a Grad transfer. Who do you think they should get? Nobody and just hope Bothello, who hasn’t been a consistent player his entire career, will be their Vyper?

 

[StPaul_Irish]

I ignored the dbag. He's on a diff level of Dbagery

 

[CanadalovesND]

He was the starting WDE at Stanford. And he’s a Grad transfer. Who do you think they should get? Nobody and just hope Bothello, who hasn’t been a consistent player his entire career, will be their Vyper?

Again, I'm asking you how he fits the position here at ND. A base-end and a VYPER are not the same thing. ND doesn't use their VYPERs as only, and strictly, base defensive ends.

 

[NDIrish1988]

Again, I'm asking you how he fits the position here at ND. A base-end and a VYPER are not the same thing. ND doesn't use their VYPERs as only, and strictly, base defensive ends.

He was a pass rushing DE, not a SDE. Vyper isn’t a real position, it’s just ND’s code for WDE.

 

[NDIrish1988]

I ignored the dbag. He's on a diff level of Dbagery

Why? Bc im going to be blunt about the good & bad. You can check my posts, I’ve been upfront about the good things too. I can’t stand the doom & gloomers, but there’s more than a few things wrong with the program.

 

[CanadalovesND]

He was a pass rushing DE, not a SDE. Vyper isn’t a real position, it’s just ND’s code for WDE.

ND had Foskey play 20 yards deep into coverage at times this past season. VYPER is a combination of weakside defensive end and an off-ball, drop linebacker. Yes, it's primary use is pass-rushing, but it's not the only element to the position.

Herron doesn't fit what ND looks for, as a complete fit, at the VYPER position.

 

[NDIrish1988]

ND had Foskey play 20 yards deep into coverage at times this past season. VYPER is a combination of weakside defensive end and an off-ball, drop linebacker. Yes, it's primary use is pass-rushing, but it's not the only element to the position.

Herron doesn't fit what ND looks for, as a complete fit, at the VYPER position.

Fuck the fit, they need a proven pass rusher. It’s the same with McCall at QB. Work with the talent you bring in.

 

[CanadalovesND]

Fuck the fit, they need a proven pass rusher. It’s the same with McCall at QB. Work with the talent you bring in.

You're not going to like this....

Herron and Justin Ademilola have nearly identical sack stats. In fact, Ademilola has better career stats.

Their snap counts are pretty much the same over the course of the last two seasons, too. Herron had 900, and Ademilola had 884.

Don't be surprised if ND rolls out a combination of Ademilola & Botelho next season at VYPER. With some reps given to the younger guys, Burnham & Gobiara.

 

[NDIrish1988]

You're not going to like this....

Herron and Justin Ademilola have nearly identical sack stats. In fact, Ademilola has better career stats.

Their snap counts are pretty much the same over the course of the last two seasons, too. Herron had 900, and Ademilola had 884.

Don't be surprised if ND rolls out a combination of Ademilola & Botelho next season at VYPER. With some reps given to the younger guys, Burnham & Gobiara.

Don’t care. There’s a lot of difft variables going into those numbers. I don’t think Ademilola is coming back. Bothello has shown flashes but not consistent. They can’t run those 2 out there, just like they can’t run out Marist & Kizer.

You guys want ND to beat the elite programs but then don’t have the stomach to trim the fat off the roster. You can’t have it both ways. Either continue to run out the shitty mediocre Lea & Kelly recruits or start playing the younger guys.

 

[CanadalovesND]

Don’t care. There’s a lot of difft variables going into those numbers. I don’t think Ademilola is coming back. Bothello has shown flashes but not consistent. They can’t run those 2 out there, just like they can’t run out Marist & Kizer.

You guys want ND to beat the elite programs but then don’t have the stomach to trim the fat off the roster. You can’t have it both ways. Either continue to run out the shitty mediocre Lea & Kelly recruits or start playing the younger guys.

Mate, no coach in CFB is going to cut players like Ademilola & Botelho and label them as "excess fat".

 

[NDIrish1988]

Mate, no coach in CFB is going to cut players like Ademilola & Botelho and label them as "excess fat".

Not Ademilola & Bothello, Marist & Kizer. I’m not crazy about Bertrand but he’s managed to “Joe Schmidt” himself into a starting role by being the QB of the Defense. Snead & Kollie have to start next yr or things will get really nasty.

 

[CanadalovesND]

Not Ademilola & Bothello, Marist & Kizer. I’m not crazy about Bertrand but he’s managed to “Joe Schmidt” himself into a starting role by being the QB of the Defense. Snead & Kollie have to start next yr or things will get really nasty.

Yeah, again, no team would cut a Kiser or Marist, or a JD for that matter. They may not be a starter at every school, though, but that's understandable and perfectly realistic.

I will agree with you however. The younger players, like Sneed, Kollie & Tuihalamka will need more action next season.

 

[NDIrish1988]

Yeah, again, no team would cut a Kiser or Marist, or a JD for that matter. They may not be a starter at every school, though, but that's understandable and perfectly realistic.

I will agree with you however. The younger players, like Sneed, Kollie & Tuihalamka will need more action next season.

They’d force them out by benching them. Kiser & Marist can stay if they don’t mind riding the bench, but I somehow doubt they’re ok with that.

 

[CanadalovesND]

They’d force them out by benching them. Kiser & Marist can stay if they don’t mind riding the bench, but I somehow doubt they’re ok with that.

That's one way to do it. If that's the case, then you won't see any departure until next season. So hold your horses, and put faith that players can get better - especially in a newer defensive scheme.

 

[NDIrish1988]

That's one way to do it. If that's the case, then you won't see any departure until next season. So hold your horses, and put faith that players can get better - especially in a newer defensive scheme.

They haven’t gotten better in 4 years. They’re flat out not good enough and all that will happen, is you’ll run off Kollie & Snead.

 

[CanadalovesND]

For all those counting at home, that's now FOUR Alabama WR's to enter the portal.