SEC Dominance - Cheating within the rules!!

jonesman

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In case you did not watch last night, the SEC won another National Title. Should anyone be shocked?? NO WAY!!! They have way more talent than any other conference in the country.

For those that ask HOW this is happening?? It is pretty simple. It is a law of numbers and blatant disregard for the "STUDENT-athlete". I bold STUDENT in this situation because they do not give one cent for the STUDENT.

So, here is how this is done. One, you have conference leadership that turns there head the other way as you sign any and every kid you can to your roster. You then figure out which ones are really players and get them qualified. If he is a really bad student, you figure out some "correspondence" course that will keep him eligible if he is a big time player.

The schools also give out the wonderful "gray shirts" to certain kids. That is a way to say, "hey you will just have to go to a JC until we decide when/if we need you."

I bet some of you are saying, "well, nobody is allowed to keep more than 85 scholarships on the roster. Yep, you are correct. That is no problem for these schools. They simply figure out which kids are at the bottom of the roster and several will be taken off scholarship via medical, academics, violation of team rules or most blatant non-renewal of scholarship.

Finally, if a coach does happen to find a few holes in his roster after signing 100+ kids in a four year recruiting cycle. He simply searches out a few bodies via the JC ranks. This gives them immediate upper class talent at those positions.

So, you read alot above, but here are the numbers to show you how gross this gets. The new 2011 National Champs, Auburn has had 119 commitments 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010. In 2010 alone, they had 32 commitments. In that same period, ND had 82 kids sign. Think about that!!!!! Thay is almost 2 full classes or 1/2 a roster more bodies. That is pretty simple math.

If you think, this situation is only one school. Well, try this on for size. Alabama had 111 commitments in the same period. Wonder how the Ole Ball Coach gets it done, try 111. Wonder how MSU managed to whoop up on RichRod, try 113 recruits in 4 years. Future UM coach, Les Miles looks pretty average at only 105. Finally, Urban was a saint at a mere 93.

Being a Big Ten hater, I thought I would look at how a couple of their premier programs did with recruiting over the same period. OSU had 79 and PSU had 80. So, think about what advantage a school in SEC has against those in the Big Ten or an ND when it comes to the talent pool.

In the end folks, the SEC will be the dominate conference until the NCAA decides to quit sucking up to them and makes them live the STUDENT part of student athlete. Further, they must play by the same rules everyone does. The saddest part of all this is that many if not most of these kids end up with NO education, NO job and worse off than when they started. SHAME ON THE SEC!!!
 

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Good post. It's almost being run like a little NFL. Pretty sickening and I feel bad for the kids that get replaced
 

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The JC transfer should be addressed. As it now stands, they can bring in a moron in the fall, play him for one season during which he doesn't have to even go to class or, if he does, pass any subject, and then discard him.
The only answer would be to require the JC transfer sit out a year before becoming pluggable into a team to fill a void.
This would instantly stop at least this nonsense. By the way, the Big Twelve Minus Two and the PAC Ten Plus Two are just as bad when it comes to JC transfers.
 

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That would be a good letter to send into SI, for the letters section. Maybe would have to cut it down a bit, but...agree 100%, its all a double standard for the SEC.
 

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Sucks that its been posted on here, just one little ND fan site, a few times yet NCAA doesn't give two poopies to do anything about it! Nice write Jones. Sadly, one thing I have always come to terms with is if something isn't going to be enforced then why expect someone to stop!? I would like to see SEC make the big show the next few years only to have the run of titles shunned by ND!

GO IRISH!
 

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They have the "decided schematic advantage"

NUMBERS

I agree it is completely unfair. They have more talent in their backyard and are able to throw a larger net around it to "keep it in the stable" so to say. If one of the sleepers develops they just pop him in the fall (the JC transfers sitting out a year would be great too).

Look at SC, killed in numbers by a small class last year and the transfers. It would be a blow to their program if they had to rely on the underclassmen to carry the weight to make up for it. So far they have signed 4 JCs, two of which are on the OL where age DOES matter.

Comparing how we are recruiting to catch up with this semi-pro league (I will have a bigger write up after this week when the picture is more clear), if we take 24 kids in this class and keep enough 5th years around to be at the max of 85 scholarship players, we will only be able to get 20 next year (class 2012). That is even if we get bailed out on numbers and loose a QB from the compeition on only keep half as many 5th years as possible. The following year (if 24 in 2011 and 20 in 2012) if we only take FIVE 5th year guys, the class size can only be 18!!!

Compare that with these gaddy numbers of the classes the SEC hauls in EVERY YEAR as documented. When we take a big class (if you consider 24 big), we have to play by the number and take smaller ones later: since 24x4=96.

Here is the NFL rule on their numbers:
53-man Protected Roster:
Prior to the opening week of the season, each team must trim its roster to 53 active players by waiving all other players and/or placing them into alternative designations (e.g., IR, Suspended etc.--see Other Player Designations below).

On regular-season game days the team names its 45-man Active Roster which defines those players who may participate in the game. In addition, each team is allowed to name one of the remaining 8 players as its emergency backup QB--that player can only play QB and can only play in the event of injury to the team's #1 and #2 QBs.

8-man Practice Squad:

After all teams have set their 53-man rosters prior to opening day and each team has passed 24-hours on acquiring the contracts of every other player waived by the other 31 NFL teams, each team may sign up to 8 players to occupy its developmental Practice Squad. These players practice with their teams but cannot dress on game days.

Further, any other team may claim a team's PS player on waivers at any given time during the season -- the only stipulation to this is that the team signing the PS player must immediately add that player to its 53-man roster.

Now if a team had more then 8 practice players (with SEC teams more like 60) that were untouchable by others and allowed to groom, develop, and insert whenever a touted starter underachieved or got injured...that is a HUGE advantage. Not to mention practice times where there is more talent to go against talent which breeds talent....
 
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I wouldn't call the SEC dominant this year. They went 5-5 in their bowls and the game last night was basically a toss up.

Dominant over the overrated Big 10, but not overall.

Do you think Tenn, Ky, or UGA would finish above .500 in the PAC-10?
What about if there had been a playoff system in place over the past few years, would the SEC really have 5 straight championships?
 
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