Roger Clemens acquitted on all counts

[ab2cmiller]

Roger Clemens acquitted on all counts

 

[Buster Bluth]

meh.

 

[Pa Golden Tate Fan]

Waste of time and money by the Government.

 

[irishpat183]

Saw that coming. Everyone and everything in this entire case has been shady. And he used. Guy is a jerk, met him numerous times when I did my internship for the Astros back in college.

And as PA said, waste of money and time by the government.

But that's what they're best at.

 

[johnnykillz]

He's blemished.

Like Bonds and Sosa.

And McGuire, and all those juice heads.

 

[IrishLax]

Juicers played in a juiced era. The end. IMO makes his stats even more impressive.

No matter what way you slice it, shame on the Government for trying this TWICE and wasting tons of money.

 

[loomis41973]

Waste of tax money...glad the juicer/liar was found not guilty.

 

[Irish2155]

My favorite baseball player of all time as a Redsock. Have worn 21 my whole life cause of this guy.

 

[ohara831]

He'll still have to pay for it in the end. The baseball writers will bypass him a while when it comes to Cooperstown. If the stain is there, they wont vote you in. That is their stance on things right now.

 

[BobD]

Same as the Barry Bonds trial, millions wasted whether they were was convicted or not, wouldn't have changed anything meaningful.

BTW it's been going on a lot longer than most people think and there are still juiced players, they just use stuff that a pee test can't catch. Thats why the MLB players union will never allow hair follicle tests.

 

[TDHeysus]

I think Roger Clemens used PEDs....but in this case, I think Roger Clemens' use of
PED's didnt make him a better player, or prolong his career. Clemens is great because of his entire career, not because of a few seasons at the end of career that pushed his numbers beyond the threshold of being great.

As opposed to say Barry Bonds who clearly had escalated number towards the end of his career that allowed him to break the career HR record.

a cheater is a cheater, i get that, but I dont lump Clemens together with Bonds, McGwire, Sosa....

 

[Irishnuke]

Everyone hit the nail on the head by saying it was a waste of time and money. Dude cheated in baseball along with everyone else. He didn't rob, rape, or kill anybody.

 

[BobD]

As long as there is a market for super human feats, there will be athletes willing to take the chance at being super human.

 

[Grahambo]

Maybe I am in the minority on this but I just don't care about PED's. A lot of guys used them. This was nothing more then a waste of time, money, effort, resources, etc. Even if he was found guilty, what does it change? Nothing. Baseball is the one sport where cheating has been around since the game's inception. From the Black Sox scandal to Gaylord Perry using vaseline to the spit ball to Don Sutton using sandpaper to Albert Belle's corked bats to Pete Rose.

 

[charlyp123]

yeah, good thing the goverment didn't waste it on teachers or something important.

 

[RDU Irish]

Good. Put him in the Hall of Fame too. Funny that politicians get upset about someone lying.

Maybe this will help keep our incarceration rate below 3%.

 

[irishpat183]

I think Roger Clemens used PEDs....but in this case, I think Roger Clemens' use of
PED's didnt make him a better player, or prolong his career. Clemens is great because of his entire career, not because of a few seasons at the end of career that pushed his numbers beyond the threshold of being great.

As opposed to say Barry Bonds who clearly had escalated number towards the end of his career that allowed him to break the career HR record.

a cheater is a cheater, i get that, but I dont lump Clemens together with Bonds, McGwire, Sosa....

I'll say what I say to everyone about this stuff....If it didn't work, and you didn't get better (bigger, stronger, faster) nobody would use it.

That stuff does work. Believe me.

 

[Irishnuke]

I think Roger Clemens used PEDs....but in this case, I think Roger Clemens' use of
PED's didnt make him a better player, or prolong his career. Clemens is great because of his entire career, not because of a few seasons at the end of career that pushed his numbers beyond the threshold of being great.

As opposed to say Barry Bonds who clearly had escalated number towards the end of his career that allowed him to break the career HR record.

a cheater is a cheater, i get that, but I dont lump Clemens together with Bonds, McGwire, Sosa....

Why not? He cheated just like the rest of them. While you're at it make sure you put Manny, ARod, and Ryan Braun on that list as well. You're kidding yourself if you think Clemens only did it at the end of his career. Bonds was the best player in baseball when he was a Pirate, way before he ever came close to breaking the HR record. So yes, his power numbers were up at the end of his career but it's not like he was a slouch before that.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

Why not? He cheated just like the rest of them. While you're at it make sure you put Manny, ARod, and Ryan Braun on that list as well. You're kidding yourself if you think Clemens only did it at the end of his career. Bonds was the best player in baseball when he was a Pirate, way before he ever came close to breaking the HR record. So yes, his power numbers were up at the end of his career but it's not like he was a slouch before that.

+1. Clemens started juicing when he became Canseco's teammate in Toronto. All of these dirtbags should be kept out of the HOF. If they had the balls to stand up and allow testing things would be worlds different right now, but that didn't happen. They all stood behind the "Union" not wanting the testing. Guess what, they are the Union. Clemens got bigger and stronger as his career progressed, particularly after he left Boston. Look at pictures of his body from his arrival in Toronto to his retirement and you will see a striking parralel to that of Bonds, Sosa and McGwire (without the enlarged cranium). They all suck and made a mockery of the sport all to chase fame and the almighty $.

 

[Irish YJ]

I'm just happy millions of taxpayer dollars supported this long and meaningless venture. I feel much better about the world and state of baseball now.

 

[RDU Irish]

Who am I more worried about lying to Congress, Eric Holder or Roger Clemens? Gee let me ponder that one for a minute.

Uber waste of time and money.

 

[RDU Irish]

+1. Clemens started juicing when he became Canseco's teammate in Toronto. All of these dirtbags should be kept out of the HOF. If they had the balls to stand up and allow testing things would be worlds different right now, but that didn't happen. They all stood behind the "Union" not wanting the testing. Guess what, they are the Union. Clemens got bigger and stronger as his career progressed, particularly after he left Boston. Look at pictures of his body from his arrival in Toronto to his retirement and you will see a striking parralel to that of Bonds, Sosa and McGwire (without the enlarged cranium). They all suck and made a mockery of the sport all to chase fame and the almighty $.

Sounds like something for the COMMISSIONER to look into, not Congress.

 

[ClausentoTate]

I'm embarrassed to say that I have absolutely no idea what he was talking to Congress about in the first place when he committed (or rather, didn't commit) perjury.

Why was Congress asking about PEDs 5 years ago? Why was our tax money going toward that at all? Was it really something serious enough to get Congress involved?

 

[Me2SouthBend]

Sounds like something for the COMMISSIONER to look into, not Congress.

He had his chance and did nothing about it. I am not advocating for Congress to be involved with this stuff, I wholeheartedly agree that it's a colossal waste of our taxpayer $. At the same time, these guys are absolute frauds and really should be b*tch slapped somewhere along the line. Keep him and 95% of the players from this era that come up for the HOF out and maybe the message gets sent that way.

 

[TDHeysus]

Why not? He cheated just like the rest of them. While you're at it make sure you put Manny, ARod, and Ryan Braun on that list as well. You're kidding yourself if you think Clemens only did it at the end of his career. Bonds was the best player in baseball when he was a Pirate, way before he ever came close to breaking the HR record. So yes, his power numbers were up at the end of his career but it's not like he was a slouch before that.

if you look at Bonds and Sosa at the beginning of their careers they were skinny guys. at the end of their careers they were behemoths, literal block-heads. It pains me as a fellow Damien High School Spartan to lump McGwire in with the cheaters, but if you look at him in the beginning of his career, he was a skinny toothpick (his rookie year when he broke the rookie HR record) only to put on a mass amount of weight at the end of the 90's. I once saw Mark McGwire at Dave and Busters during the off-season and almost didnt recognize him because he was soooooo skinny. if he wasnt so tall, i probably wouldnt have paid attention to him as he was walking in with a woman and child. This was in 1998, and in the off-season, and he was super thin. look at him in the 1998 regular season, he was a behemoth.

Roger Clemens was always a big guy, his body didnt morph like bonds, sosa, and mcgwire. As I type this I'm not exactly sure why I dont lump Clemens with the cheaters, but I just dont. haha, sorry for the weak response. As I said previously, I know a cheater is a cheater, but illogically, I just dont lump Clemens in with Bonds, Sosa and McGwire.

I highly suspect alot of other players, Ken Griffey, JR and Tiger Woods being a couple....both players careers skyrocketed earlier on, and put them on track to break all time records, both athletes bodies broke down, or is breaking down and all of sudden doesnt look like they will break those records (JR, obvioulsy wont). One side effect of using PED's is your body will break down prematurely, especially weight bearing joints....JR had issues with his ankles, yea? Tiger was linked to that PED doctor on 2 occasions.

Incidentally, me and my friend I was with at Dave & Busters left McGwire alone with his family and did not bother them at all, eventhough they sat 2 tables from us, and there was no one else around.