Ray Donavon

[IrishSpartan]

anyone watch it? Looks like showtime has its next great show.

 

[ndfi78]

Definitely enjoying it so far

 

[philipm31]

I have seen the first three episodes and I like the premise. I hope that it starts to flesh out the relationship amongst Ray, his father and the others that set up Mickey, despite the fact that Mickey was a dirty crook.

Just wish there were not so many darn stereotypes in it. The Irish CAN do more than drink, be Catholic and fight, you know!

Still, I really love Liev and Voight. They really are great.

 

[NDinFL]

I have seen the first three episodes and I like the premise. I hope that it starts to flesh out the relationship amongst Ray, his father and the others that set up Mickey, despite the fact that Mickey was a dirty crook.

Just wish there were not so many darn stereotypes in it. The Irish CAN do more than drink, be Catholic and fight, you know!

Still, I really love Liev and Voight. They really are great.

But we're really good at those things

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

It's not what I thought it was going to be from the previews, but still pretty good.

 

[philipm31]

But we're really good at those things

Multitasking

 

[Black Irish]

****SPOILERS IN THIS POST ABOUT THE FIRST EPISODE****



I was really looking forward to this show, but I was very disappointed in the first episode. The show took too long to set up a lot of various plot points so it felt like an hour of exposition. It felt like "Ray Donovan" is trying to cover its bases by throwing out as many angst-ridden plot points and heavily compromised characters as it can come up with in order to be compelling. Ray himself can't just be a problematic person, he also has to be surrounded by: a stock Lady MacBeth type wife, a psychopath ex-con father, one brother who is an alcoholic because he was molested by a priest, another brother who has Parkinson's. Not to mention the sister who killed herself because she was a drug addict in addition to the black half-brother that turns up. How does Ray find the time to cover up the misdeeds of celebrities and cheat on his wife with an old flame with all that going on?

Good shows like "The Shield" and "Breaking Bad" still told a story during the course of a premiere; they didn't spend the whole hour just setting things up. "Ray Donovan" has a great cast and a good premise. But the show is trying to do too much and once and it doesn't look like it will do any of them well. The creators are mistaking quantity for quality; as if they just throw enough dark and edgy material on the table they'll wind up with the next Great Drama.

 

[ACamp1900]

But we're really good at those things

freakin irish...

 

[fitz_bu47]

But we're really good at those things

That's what I have had to explain to my wife in the past, can't fight it, I was born this (awesome) way.