Quickness off the Snap and Strength

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These are the two things the defensive line has lacked in recent years that have prevented them from doing a whole lot.

Curious, I watched some game tape from 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009. The games were Stanford, Navy, San Diego State and USC, respectively. Here's what I found.

In 2006, the defensive line explodes off the snap. This unit included Victor Abiamiri, Derek Landri and Trevor Laws. As soon as the ball is snapped, their hands are off the ground and they're charging forward to get to that quarterback or to get to that running back. They were lacking in strength, which was what prevented them from being able to get to John David-Booty, Chad Henne and Jamarcus Russell. They could dominate teams like Stanford and Army, but were not able to pressure the quarterbacks of USC, Michigan or LSU.

In 2007, against Navy, I had the terrible urge to watch the entire disaster from start to finish. And what I found was horrifying. Utterly horrifying. The defensive line, including our boy Trevor Laws, takes absolutely FOREVER to react to the snap. Navy is already in motion, executing the triple option, before our defensive line even makes contact with their undersized offensive line. And, of course, the lack of strength allows Navy to hold their blocks and put up 46 on the Irish.

I thought, "Well, it couldn't be much worse in 2008." So, I watched the SDSU game. Although they don't have the glacial quickness (reps to anyone who understands this joke) of the 2007 line, they are still horrifyingly slow off the snap. No pressure. SDSU QB Ryan Lindley gets all day to throw.

"2009 couldn't be thaaaat bad." I was wrong. I watched the tape from USC. It was awful. Ethan Johnson explodes off the snap. The rest suck. Big time. In fact, USC linemen literally have time to step back, plant their feet and PREPARE for the oncoming rush, as if they were Braveheart and they were waiting for the agonizingly long seven hour cavalry charge seen in the film. Ugh.

Since the DL has apparently never heard of a swim move, we were sorely lacking in any kind of rush.

The strength has improved. That's evident. When your nose tackle weighs 313 and squats over 600, you might have reason for optimism. When your best lineman (in this case Ethan Johnson) improves his squat by 155, you may also have reason for optimism, especially considering he was the only one last year who showed quickness off the snap.

So the question remains: How quickly can we explode off the snap? Quick enough to penetrate and cause a rush, perhaps stuff a run? Or will we see the trash of the last three years, a slow pass rush into a solid wall of often mediocre offensive linemen, and hours of time for opposing quarterbacks to throw? Let's hope Brian Kelly gets this problem fixed.
 

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In defending the Option I thought defenders were taught to make the offense commit. The QB is trained to read the defenders and react to their action. If they commit inside he goes outside, etc. Defenders are supposed to string out the play. Aggressive commitment, crashing upfield results in getting gashed. Discipline, discipline, discipline.


Johnson had a knee problem in HS and sat out his senior season. He did a lot of swimming pool rehab. That impacted his lifting program.
 

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I bow to SEIG's analysis of past films. I'm sure that you know what you're talking about. What I've heard from BK gives me some hope though even if the flaws that you've seen are still [a bit] there. Coach says that he doesn't want these guys charging thug-like through gaps upfield, but "maintaining gaps" to engage and shed blockers from the O-Lines we face. That includes the two inside backers, generally engaging and shedding guards. With gaps filled and linemen shed, BK/Diaco's plan is to then free tacklers to the ball. Sure we'll still need some explosion, especially on blitz plays, but a lot of that will terminate the QB due to the speed of the OLBs. Ethan Johnson, it is true, says that although he is happy with the gap responsibility schemes, he is still planning on lighting up quite a few QBs and RBs himself. So, there must be a philosophy of initial seals, then blast to the ball, once the offense has committed. I guess we'll see whether we are up to it in the games. I think that all this is why Kelly is more concerned right now with getting one of his ILB/guard-engager and OLB/ blitz&blaster positions solidified than anything else on the team.
 

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All good stuff.

The worst thing for me was watching John Ryan, Brian Smith, Darius Fleming and Co. fly around the edges only for the play to go the other direction or the ball to go underneath them.

Bad coaching.
 

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Isn't the point of Longo's olympic lifting regimen to build that explosiveness?


...Hoping mbeckha makes a cameo...
 
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glacial quickness as in as slow as a glacier.
inches a decade...
pathetically slow

am I close?
haha

anywho...
I have faith that the strength we have now across the board is eons ahead of where it has been in the past decade.

Another year under Longo and they are going to be so strong and well conditioned that its not gonna be funny.
They are going to really be something to see.
 

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These are the two things the defensive line has lacked in recent years that have prevented them from doing a whole lot.

Curious, I watched some game tape from 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009. The games were Stanford, Navy, San Diego State and USC, respectively. Here's what I found.

In 2006, the defensive line explodes off the snap. This unit included Victor Abiamiri, Derek Landri and Trevor Laws. As soon as the ball is snapped, their hands are off the ground and they're charging forward to get to that quarterback or to get to that running back. They were lacking in strength, which was what prevented them from being able to get to John David-Booty, Chad Henne and Jamarcus Russell. They could dominate teams like Stanford and Army, but were not able to pressure the quarterbacks of USC, Michigan or LSU.

In 2007, against Navy, I had the terrible urge to watch the entire disaster from start to finish. And what I found was horrifying. Utterly horrifying. The defensive line, including our boy Trevor Laws, takes absolutely FOREVER to react to the snap. Navy is already in motion, executing the triple option, before our defensive line even makes contact with their undersized offensive line. And, of course, the lack of strength allows Navy to hold their blocks and put up 46 on the Irish.

I thought, "Well, it couldn't be much worse in 2008." So, I watched the SDSU game. Although they don't have the glacial quickness (reps to anyone who understands this joke) of the 2007 line, they are still horrifyingly slow off the snap. No pressure. SDSU QB Ryan Lindley gets all day to throw.

"2009 couldn't be thaaaat bad." I was wrong. I watched the tape from USC. It was awful. Ethan Johnson explodes off the snap. The rest suck. Big time. In fact, USC linemen literally have time to step back, plant their feet and PREPARE for the oncoming rush, as if they were Braveheart and they were waiting for the agonizingly long seven hour cavalry charge seen in the film. Ugh.

Since the DL has apparently never heard of a swim move, we were sorely lacking in any kind of rush.

The strength has improved. That's evident. When your nose tackle weighs 313 and squats over 600, you might have reason for optimism. When your best lineman (in this case Ethan Johnson) improves his squat by 155, you may also have reason for optimism, especially considering he was the only one last year who showed quickness off the snap.

So the question remains: How quickly can we explode off the snap? Quick enough to penetrate and cause a rush, perhaps stuff a run? Or will we see the trash of the last three years, a slow pass rush into a solid wall of often mediocre offensive linemen, and hours of time for opposing quarterbacks to throw? Let's hope Brian Kelly gets this problem fixed.

WAY NICE POST!!! Reps. I noticed that too in a lot of those games and it just makes me sick to have seen such poor coaching.....anyway, What happened to the day when we had Ned Bolcar, George "Boo" Williams, Chris Zorich, Michael Stonebreaker........What happend to those kinds of guys. Thats what I want to see from this unit. God Notre Dame was SICK defensively in 1988 and MAN would I LOVE to see that same shit this year. GOD!!!!
 
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