Question on electric?

[cody1smith]

I felt like this was gonna be a really easy project. But a couple of my buddies seem to think it will not work.

Ok what ive got is. I need to run 240/220 volts around 1000 feet from my panel. I need to put 6 110v plug ins on it and 6 220v plug ins on it. Some as close as 200 feet from the panel and some as far as 1000 feet give or take a few feet.

I am gonna be running 1/2-1hp well pump motors rigged on a aerator. (for fish) Most of the time only one or two will be running. I guess maybe I could run as many as 4.

I feel like I can run a single wire like 6awg the distance and slpit off of it to make my receptacles with like 10awg.
What am I missing? will this not work?

 

[nsisk157]

Really depends on the load you intend...

Best way without knowing any specifics is to run your 6 awg wire to a subpanel and then split off everything off there....

The way you are describing and intend on doing is a fire hazard...

 

[cody1smith]

Really depends on the load you intend...

Best way without knowing any specifics is to run your 6 awg wire to a subpanel and then split off everything off there....

The way you are describing and intend on doing is a fire hazard...

Thanks for answering.
I did not even give that a thought.
My concern is the voltage drop over that much distance. But I guess if I run 6 or maybe even 4 500 feet to a sub panel and jump off of that with like 8 or 10 my drop would be less?

 

[tko]

220/221 whatever it takes

 

[dshans]

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Are you couching your intention to put up a growing operation as a potential fish farm???

See threads on marijuana and Breaking Bad.

In all seriousness, what you're proposing sounds dangerous. I've done a good bit of wiring in the 30 years I've lived in my 1913 house. I did the research into the "how and why" and adhered to all local codes. Some of my work even passed inspection. None of it involved 220/240 or runs as long as you propose though.

This sounds like a project a bit outside of the standard DIY. It might be time to bite the bullet and hire a qualified and certified electrician. It might even be advisable to add a separate feed from the main power source rather than running through your home panel.

Safety first. GFCIs are your friend.

 

[connor_in]

220/221 whatever it takes

I love that movie but am curious how many got the reference

http://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%252F#

 

[cody1smith]

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Are you couching your intention to put up a growing operation as a potential fish farm???

See threads on marijuana and Breaking Bad.

In all seriousness, what you're proposing sounds dangerous. I've done a good bit of wiring in the 30 years I've lived in my 1913 house. I did the research into the "how and why" and adhered to all local codes. Some of my work even passed inspection. None of it involved 220/240 or runs as long as you propose though.

This sounds like a project a bit outside of the standard DIY. It might be time to bite the bullet and hire a qualified and certified electrician. It might even be advisable to add a separate feed from the main power source rather than running through your home panel.

Safety first. GFCIs are your friend.

I have 10 meter sets on the farm as of now. I am trying to get away from number 11. Each meter set costs 53 dollars per month before you use any electric. The nearest panel to the production ponds I am building now is around 1000 feet.
And 220 is not much different than running 110. Just 1 extra wire. 220 is far superior to 110. As this would not be possible trying to run in 110v.

Since posting I think I have figured it out.
4/0 URD aluminum will carry the desired 20-40 amps I am going to need to run my aerators. So I will run the 4/0 URD to a 50 amp panel and split each receptacle off of the panel.

I am by no means an electrician but I feel like this is a very easy project that I am making into something much more.

 

[dshans]

"Whatever it takes" is a fairly old comment. Perhaps even as old, or older than me. It's also ubiquitous.

I, an avid fan of Spiderman comic books when they were issued, pretty much gave up on the movies when it was "decided" that his web making ability was imbued along with his spider strength and senses after the fateful bite.

Peter the egghead (not to be confused with another comic character) created the compound for the threads and the delivery system.

Sheesh!

 

[dshans]

I have 10 meter sets on the farm as of now. I am trying to get away from number 11. Each meter set costs 53 dollars per month before you use any electric. The nearest panel to the production ponds I am building now is around 1000 feet.
And 220 is not much different than running 110. Just 1 extra wire. 220 is far superior to 110. As this would not be possible trying to run in 110v.

Since posting I think I have figured it out.
4/0 URD aluminum will carry the desired 20-40 amps I am going to need to run my aerators. So I will run the 4/0 URD to a 50 amp panel and split each receptacle off of the panel.

I am by no means an electrician but I feel like this is a very easy project that I am making into something much more.

Good points. I am not now, nor have I ever been a farmer. Had I ever been I'm pretty damn sure that I'd share your attitude and approach. I would also have a shitload more experience wiring over long distances.

Good luck, Godspeed and stay safe.

Long live the fishies!!!

 

[connor_in]

"Whatever it takes" is a fairly old comment. Perhaps even as old, or older than me. It's also ubiquitous.

I, an avid fan of Spiderman comic books when they were issued, pretty much gave up on the movies when it was "decided" that his web making ability was imbued along with his spider strength and senses after the fateful bite.

Peter the egghead (not to be confused with another comic character) created the compound for the threads and the delivery system.

Sheesh!

Its more the 220/221 part

 

[dshans]

Hasn't aluminum wiring been shown to be a problem? Maybe in interior wiring and not in exterior source to box runs. I dunno.

I'm out. I'm not an electrician. All my ceiling fans, lights, outlets and wiring to my detached garage work and have been safe for 25+ years. As someone pointed out earlier, at some point it's more a matter of amperage than voltage.

Trust your research, experience, instinct and skill. All my best to you.

 

[kmoose]

Its more the 220/221 part

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[Irish YJ]

PM me if you want me to connect you with one of my electricians (I'm a VP at an electrical and technology corp). I'll do an e-intro via email and you can pound him with Qs. Not sure if we have a partner network group in your area, but if we do, I can hook you up (you pay them at our partner cost) if you need someone to do all or some of the work.

 

[BobD]

You need JadeBrecks. Our resident vbookie is also an electrician.

 

[4irishnation]

You need JadeBrecks. Our resident vbookie is also an electrician.

Guess he's busy??