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Was it a called play or did Kizer audible? I couldn`t tell.



I've wondered this myself, and was even more curious after BK responded to a question of 'what did Kizer do wrong' with 'He tries to do too much sometimes, and he checked out of something late in the game when he just has to let the offense work out the way it's designed.' That is obviously paraphrased, but you get the gist, and I was wondering if that was the play call he was referring to


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- Rewatching the game. If you do so, watch Trumbetti and Martini the entire time on defense. Make sure you have a puke bucket by your side. They were dominated every single play.

- Rochelle was really good.

- Where is Tillery's motor? He wasn't getting owned like Trumbetti, but wasn't a factor. He basically held his ground and that's it.

- Jarron Jones same as Tillery.

- Studstill is in on the tackle or in the picture almost every play. Him and Crawford are going to make some plays this year.

- Julian Love (27) played a lot more than I thought.

- I think on the big TD Coleman gave up, he wasn't just burned by athleticism like I thought. He was over playing the hitch, you can tell because he's shuffling more than running. Can't do that against a guy like Hurt.

- Tranquill, thought he'd make more of an impact.

- I like watching Morgan play football.

- I thought Cage played well. 2nd best DL to me.

- Kizer is so good.

- I like how the OL played, both sides. I don't think the Right side was a noticeable lag.

- I think our RBs are all good, not great. They're not difference makers to me, but they can all play well. I'd like to see Dexter get more carries.
 
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- Rewatching the game. If you do so, watch Trumbetti and Martini the entire time on defense. Make sure you have a puke bucket by your side. They were dominated every single play.

I believe there was an interview where Martini sated something like: He is glad they are going back to a 4-3 to keep the linemen off the linebackers and that the linebackers wouldn't have to play 7 yards off the line compare to the 3-3-5. Thank you BVG

- Julian Love (27) played a lot more than I thought.

That's because they pulled Coleman, because he was so bad. Once Coleman was out, Crawford played outside and Love took over in the slot. I thought Love played pretty well.

- Tranquill, thought he'd make more of an impact.

He was horrible. that's why he got pulled in the second half. Hope it was first start jitters and he improves every week.

- I like how the OL played, both sides. I don't think the Right side was a noticeable lag

Alex Bars is a stud. Next year he will move to LT and become a mid to late 1st RD pick in 2018 draft.
 
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To add, our LBs are awful at getting off of blocks. Martini might be the worst, I'm hoping Coney plays the next two weeks because he has to be better than what Martini showed. Bilal as well in his small sample. Just locked up with the TE and stood there. He looks athletic, but where's his toughness/physicality? James O was active and tried to get off blocks, and at least showed effort, but he just is what he is. I'm not necessarily frustrated with his play, but Bilal and Martini were woof.
 
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Also, S/O to Justin Yoon. Bangs home a 40 yarder in OT in Texas to take the lead.
 

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Also, S/O to Justin Yoon. Bangs home a 40 yarder in OT in Texas to take the lead.
Not many people are talking about his play but...

Shout out to CJ Sanders for his punt returns, receptions and YAC!

Without him ND isn't even in the game.
 

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- Rewatching the game. If you do so, watch Trumbetti and Martini the entire time on defense. Make sure you have a puke bucket by your side. They were dominated every single play.
- Rochelle was really good.

- Where is Tillery's motor? He wasn't getting owned like Trumbetti, but wasn't a factor. He basically held his ground and that's it.

- Jarron Jones same as Tillery.

- Studstill is in on the tackle or in the picture almost every play. Him and Crawford are going to make some plays this year.

- Julian Love (27) played a lot more than I thought.

- I think on the big TD Coleman gave up, he wasn't just burned by athleticism like I thought. He was over playing the hitch, you can tell because he's shuffling more than running. Can't do that against a guy like Hurt.

- Tranquill, thought he'd make more of an impact.

- I like watching Morgan play football.

- I thought Cage played well. 2nd best DL to me.

- Kizer is so good.

- I like how the OL played, both sides. I don't think the Right side was a noticeable lag.

- I think our RBs are all good, not great. They're not difference makers to me, but they can all play well. I'd like to see Dexter get more carries.

A big part of the issue I have with the game (defensively) wasn't only the 3-3-5 alignment but the personnel chosen to start in that alignment. Trumbetti is essentially a ROLB or WDE that was asked to play on top of the OT and in some cases it looked like the inside shoulder of the OT (4T-3T). No reason to have him that close to the ball. I'm not sure what BVG has seen to think that's a position he's going to consistently win from. If we wanted to run that, you rotate Jones, Cage, Tillery, and Rochell (I bet Taylor would've been fine there as well, that's 4-5 guys for 3 spots). You want to make it a jumbo, then you sub out JO for Trumbetti, as JO was essentially an extension of the DL for parts of the game. He lined up on the outside as a ROLB and in some cases on top of the OG, talk about boneheaded decisions. So we had Trumbetti as a 3-4 DE and JO as our ROLB. You are not going to win a lot of close yardage battles with those guys at those positions. Especially, against jumbo packages and a 250 lb RB/QB combo.

Also, either it was incredibly poor technique from that position, they were expected to do this, or a combination of both but on almost each snap it looked to me like Trumbetti was trying to win inside. And he kept getting turned and essentially taken out of the play. I would've liked to see them start wider, 5T, and play outside in more. It looked like they played inside/inside, if that makes any sense.

This is not me defending his play, it wasn't good, just to say he shouldn't have ever been in that situation. Keep in mind that Diaco had DE's that were Tuitt, Ethan Johnson, Sheldon Day, KLM, all those guys have at least 20 lbs. on Trumbetti. We currently have those guys (listed above), we just didn't play them there, at least early on.

In summation, poor alignment, poor personnel, and poor technique. At least to me.
 

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A big part of the issue I have with the game (defensively) wasn't only the 3-3-5 alignment but the personnel chosen to start in that alignment. Trumbetti is essentially a ROLB or WDE that was asked to play on top of the OT and in some cases it looked like the inside shoulder of the OT (4T-3T). No reason to have him that close to the ball. I'm not sure what BVG has seen to think that's a position he's going to consistently win from. If we wanted to run that, you rotate Jones, Cage, Tillery, and Rochell (I bet Taylor would've been fine there as well, that's 4-5 guys for 3 spots). You want to make it a jumbo, then you sub out JO for Trumbetti, as JO was essentially an extension of the DL for parts of the game. He lined up on the outside as a ROLB and in some cases on top of the OG, talk about boneheaded decisions. So we had Trumbetti as a 3-4 DE and JO as our ROLB. You are not going to win a lot of close yardage battles with those guys at those positions. Especially, against jumbo packages and a 250 lb RB/QB combo.

Excellent points!
 
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