Post Game Observations....

[Bluto]

I predict a 10-2 season with a loss to OK.

If we don't smoke Oklahoma I'm gonna be kind of bummed. They looked like garbage today. Anyhow, I think Arizona is the one team remaining that could light is up if we don't get it together.

 

[NDfan12]

We should have ran a cover 2 on Gallion (sp?). He was their entire offense. Then we would've won. Can someone call Diaco and tell him I'm open to offers?

Gallon. He was STUPID..he tore Bjax up most of the night...our front seven is actually pretty solid..they were getting after Gardner..but it's not hard to pass to someone when there's no one within five yards of him. Corners and safeties were not on "the same page" for most of the night. UM is not that good of a football team to drop 41 points on us.

 

[kmoose]

I don't hate Rees. So, please stop with that nonsense.

Michigan did not play two deep safeties all game long. So, I do not know what you are talking about. They gave Rees plenty of opportunities to hit wide open receivers in corner end zone routes and the guy did not deliver. It's all there when you review the game tomorrow. And since you brought up that they did play 2 deep safeties occasionally, particularly in the second half, I will point out that once again Rees threw a pass right in the hands of the underneath defender, just like he has all his career. Furthermore, , he threw the ball right into the hands of a defender on a rollout pass, just as he has his entire career. And once again, he was a statue, just as he has been his entire career. On that int he threw, there was all kinds of running room, instead he forced a ball into coverage.

He is what he is. I was hoping he had improved. He has not. He will hold back our offense all year.

You're wrong. But you are so far wrong that you will never listen to the reasons why you are wrong. So have it.

 

[Junkhead]

I don't hate Rees. So, please stop with that nonsense.

Michigan did not play two deep safeties all game long. So, I do not know what you are talking about. They gave Rees plenty of opportunities to hit wide open receivers in corner end zone routes and the guy did not deliver. It's all there when you review the game tomorrow. And since you brought up that they did play 2 deep safeties occasionally, particularly in the second half, I will point out that once again Rees threw a pass right in the hands of the underneath defender, just like he has all his career. Furthermore, , he threw the ball right into the hands of a defender on a rollout pass, just as he has his entire career. And once again, he was a statue, just as he has been his entire career. On that int he threw, there was all kinds of running room, instead he forced a ball into coverage.

He is what he is. I was hoping he had improved. He has not. He will hold back our offense all year.

Hello. THE DEFENSE LOST THIS GAME. Why is that so hard for you to accept.

 

[Irishman77]

Gardner didnt happen. Our defense made temples first time starting qb look good. The ncaa is filled with qbs that are 5x better than him.

Reality post!

Tuitt can't be healthy
Carlo runs a 8.2 forty
Shumate is lost

Nix got dominated...that really hurts saying this!


Ishaq, day, grace, collinsworth graded well.

Our poor tackling is an alarm bell to our zero emotion. We play with no emotion!

 

[returnofthemack]

Teddy Bridgewater's career yards per carry is 0.3. His longest run is 24 yards and he has 4 rushing TD's. He's a pocket passer. Just because he's black doesn't mean he can run.

I think you're seriously underestimating how inaccurate of a passer Braxton Miller is. Braxton completed in the 40% in high school, and his first year at Ohio State he was 53%. Last year in Urban Meyer's offense he was 57%. That offense lets you get a ton of easy completions. Robinson completed 62% as a sophomore in that offense. Tim Tebow completed 67% in that offense as a sophomore.

Braxton Miller is a terrible passer.

Oh no. I don't think Teddy is a good runner, and I don't think Braxton is as good as everybody thinks either. I just know that our defense would find a way to win the Heisman for them.

 

[Irishbounty28]

I would view it as a coaching problem. Rees brought in extra blockers, and he held the ball until the last second to let the WR's get open. He played well but the coaches failed him. Also a couple of times the Oline whiffed but that is to be expected in any game.

I guess we are pretty much in agreement. I did take your post the wrong way initially, but after reading it again I see what you were saying.

 

[Bluto]

Should have doubled the receiver guy who's name I've forgotten for drinking too many beers. We do that we cut their offensive production by like 50%. Anybody that knows Diaco PM me and I'll give you my digits to pass along.

 

[jmoodie]

Manziel was a first year starting QB, too. As was Golson. As was Lienhert when he won the heisman. As was Cam Newton...

Your logic doesn't stand up. It IS possible that Gardner is good and played a great game. Our middle D isn't great, but good lord. Our Dl ate up their ol all night. Gardner made a bunch of sand lot plays.

I know Diaco is a good coach and I know that all of you know that, but he got out coached tonight. We could not stop a first year starting QB for anything. And this is the defense that is supposedly one of the best in the nation?

With all the talent we have on the defensive side of the ball, tonight's performance is a bit concerning.

 

[Bluto]

In other news USC and WSU are tied 7 - 7 in the fourth in a barn burner at the colosseum!

 

[pkt77242]

Hello. THE DEFENSE LOST THIS GAME. Why is that so hard for you to accept.

Because he has GA3's hands for brains. Bricks. I would post a GIF or picture but it keep freezing up.

 

[Irishpinoy]

I don't hate Rees. So, please stop with that nonsense.

Michigan did not play two deep safeties all game long. So, I do not know what you are talking about. They gave Rees plenty of opportunities to hit wide open receivers in corner end zone routes and the guy did not deliver. It's all there when you review the game tomorrow. And since you brought up that they did play 2 deep safeties occasionally, particularly in the second half, I will point out that once again Rees threw a pass right in the hands of the underneath defender, just like he has all his career. Furthermore, , he threw the ball right into the hands of a defender on a rollout pass, just as he has his entire career. And once again, he was a statue, just as he has been his entire career. On that int he threw, there was all kinds of running room, instead he forced a ball into coverage.

He is what he is. I was hoping he had improved. He has not. He will hold back our offense all year.

Amen...I want to see Malik Zaire next week if he's available. Reese played good today except for the first INT but he should be just a back up. Our offense is so predictable with him at the helm. This offense can be very good with the right QB.

 

[pkt77242]

I guess we are pretty much in agreement. I did take your post the wrong way initially, but after reading it again I see what you were saying.

Not a problem it happens when we get caught up in the game and our feelings. Rees could have played better but he didn't play poorly.

 

[Patulski]

If you honestly think this loss in on the QB, you have no idea what you are talking about. Do you honestly think we should have to score 50 to win?? Rees wasn't the problem. Watch the game and see scUM running up and down the field at will. How is that the QBs fault. You have to be jokin.... We get it. Tommy isn't that great, but this loss isn't on him.

When did I ever say the loss was on Rees? I said a better QB would have won this game. I have no doubt that a better QB would have hit those wide open receivers on corner end zone routes. A better QB would have picked up a few yards on that rollout instead of forcing the ball into coverage, a better QB would have a deep ball threat so that their safeties could never sneak up like they did in the first half. Yeah, or defense sucked, but Rees held our O way back by all of his weaknesses. I think we could have scored at least 17 more points, but did not for all the reasons stated.

 

[Rudy89]

we are what everyone thought we were. we are a team that captured something magical last year and now the magic is gone. As I said in chat we are at best a good football team. We play a great team we lose, we play an elite team we are humiliated. I also said that when it comes to playing OU, USC, and the Bowl if we cant get two of those 3 then this season is a failure. Might be a harsh thing to say but i mean it if we cant beat a storied prgram, beat our biggest rival at home, or put a new trophy in our trophy case then we have failed this season.

 

[Kak7304]

Just for the record............. and because that's the second time that I have seen this mentioned tonight:

Gardner was recruited to Michigan as a 4* QB, out of Detroit Inkster High School. He was asked to play WR, to try to get both him AND Denard Robinson on the field at the same time. He is NOT a converted WR.

I know, I was just making the point he had the athleticism to play WR and people are expecting DL to be able to chase him down.

 

[NDWorld247]

A few more thoughts....

- The minute I saw Gardner wearing #98 in honor of Heisman Trophy winner Tom Harmon, I had a sick feeling in my stomach. This feeling still hasn't left me.

- We needed to start fast, not with two straight three-and-outs in which 5 of the 6 plays were so obvious (to me). I called them sitting in my living room. I can only imagine Mattison knew they were coming as well.

- We ran the ball really well on 1st down. Unfortunately, we didn't run the ball on 1st down nearly enough. We had too many possessions of pass, pass, pass. I'm really frustrated with the play calling tonight.

 

[Junkhead]

When did I ever say the loss was on Rees? I said a better QB would have won this game. I have no doubt that a better QB would have hit those wide open receivers on corner end zone routes. A better QB would have picked up a few yards on that rollout instead of forcing the ball into coverage, a better QB would have a deep ball threat so that their safeties could never sneak up like they did in the first half. Yeah, or defense sucked, but Rees held our O way back by all of his weaknesses. I think we could have scored at least 17 more points, but did not for all the reasons stated.

And better LB and DB play would have won also. Do you really think we even deserve to win when we give up 41 points???

 

[Kak7304]

Amen...I want to see Malik Zaire next week if he's available. Reese played good today except for the first INT but he should be just a back up. Our offense is so predictable with him at the helm. This offense can be very good with the right QB.

No. I'd rather have an extra year of Zaire in 5 years. There is no reason to try and force him into action.

 

[kmoose]

Amen...I want to see Malik Zaire next week if he's available. Reese played good today except for the first INT but he should be just a back up. Our offense is so predictable with him at the helm. This offense can be very good with the right QB.

Granted that today's games are not figured in yet, but this offense IS very good. #23 in Total offense, after the first week, with 543 yards per game. They put up over 400 tonight, as well. But you want to turn the offense over to a true freshman, after just 2 weeks? #smh

 

[Bluto]

If we don't crush USC I'm gonna be bummed. Either Washington State has become the 85 Chicago Bears on defense or USC sucks.

 

[Junkhead]

No. I'd rather have an extra year of Zaire in 5 years. There is no reason to try and force him into action.

Will Zaire be better than a returning Golson next year? We'll have to wait and see....

 

[pkt77242]

Amen...I want to see Malik Zaire next week if he's available. Reese played good today except for the first INT but he should be just a back up. Our offense is so predictable with him at the helm. This offense can be very good with the right QB.

First off his name is Rees. 2nd off if you want Malik you don't know anything about football. have a good night.

 

[pkt77242]

If you're going to get personal mother****er, you have picked the wrong guy.

You are posting stupid ****. Go to bed.

 

[TomHaverford]

Amen...I want to see Malik Zaire next week if he's available. Reese played good today except for the first INT but he should be just a back up. Our offense is so predictable with him at the helm. This offense can be very good with the right QB.

lay off Rees. He's not as bad as you think.

You realize that if Zaire was your QB tonight, that ND might've got run out of the stadium, right? No way Zaire reads those coverages and blitzes and get in out of the right plays so quickly in that environment.

Rees' last INT was pretty flukish, and while his first INT was really stupid you have to cut him some slack. He's a right handed QB moving to his left and throwing on the run. It takes a big-time arm to make that throw, Rees doesn't have a big arm and was trying to do too much. Should have thrown that one away to fight another down.

Seriously, Zaire wouldn't have been able to make the calls and read the blitzes and get the ball to the hot guy like Rees could. Nor could he make some of those timing throws between the CB and Safety that have to be thrown on perfect timing before the WR is even out of his break.

Rees kept you all in the game. He's pretty limited physically, but he's a very smart QB. He knows his X's and O's.

 

[pkt77242]

lay off Rees. He's not as bad as you think.

You realize that if Zaire was your QB tonight, that ND might've got run out of the stadium, right? No way Zaire reads those coverages and blitzes and get in out of the right plays so quickly in that environment.

Rees' last INT was pretty flukish, and while his first INT was really stupid you have to cut him some slack. He's a right handed QB moving to his left and throwing on the run. It takes a big-time arm to make that throw, Rees doesn't have a big arm and was trying to do too much. Should have thrown that one away to fight another down.

Seriously, Zaire wouldn't have been able to make the calls and read the blitzes and get the ball to the hot guy like Rees could. Nor could he make some of those timing throws between the CB and Safety that have to be thrown on perfect timing before the WR is even out of his break.

Rees kept you all in the game. He's pretty limited physically, but he's a very smart QB. He knows his X's and O's.

Thank you

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

The neg Rees talk is weird. I thought Tommy played a great game. Did he do enough for us to win? Depends which defense we are talking about.

If we are talking about a defense with a full returning secondary (minus Collingsworth), a defense will all returning DL, and a defense with two fifth year LB's, then yes. If we are talking about the ****** defense that came to play tonight? No, Tommy didn't do enough.

Bennett is not a good cover corner. Never was. Great leader, but not a good cover corner. We just don't have the athleticism to go man coverage against a great QB like we played tonight. It's not bad really. Most teams probably couldn't have gone man against Gardner tonight.

I wish we could tackle like we did against Oklahoma last year all the time. We wouldn't lose a game.

I also thought we gave up on the run on that last drive that stalled for a field goal. Carlisle had it going.

#BeatPurdue.

 

[Rudy89]

If we don't crush USC I'm gonna be bummed. Either Washington State has become the 85 Chicago Bears on defense or USC sucks.

with how bad our D has been theyll score 38 on us

 

[NDWorld247]

If you're going to get personal mother****er, you have picked the wrong guy.

Solid move banning this guy, Mods. This comment cracked me up though. Who writes stuff like this on the internet?

 

[TomHaverford]

Manziel was a first year starting QB, too. As was Golson. As was Lienhert when he won the heisman. As was Cam Newton...

Your logic doesn't stand up. It IS possible that Gardner is good and played a great game. Our middle D isn't great, but good lord. Our Dl ate up their ol all night. Gardner made a bunch of sand lot plays.

Lewan is an elite OL in every sense of the phrase. He showed up big tonight. Schofield can't run block to save his life but he's definitely very adequate in pass pro.

Notre Dame absolutely dominated Michigan's interior OL though, there is zero question about that. Schofield was dominated in the run game, but held up his end of the bargain in pass protection. Interior OL was just man-handled. It was tough to see Glasgow and Miller against that interior. Kalis struggled too.