Politics

[TracyGraham]

You're arguing that the guy knew rich people and was connected, which everyone knew and that somehow justifies any and all hypothetical connections thereafter. This is a wild leap upon leap.

My point is that even with a wealth of evidence that he is tied deeply to israel, you are unwilling to even acknowledge, but instead say it is olbermanesque, tells me i might as well debate my microwave.
How does that further your cause? Why bother even engaging? I dont get it.
If you arent even willing to admit water is wet, how can we move on the next set of questions?
When did it become a virtue to just stonewall? You dont have to agree with everything your side does for the rest of your life, it's ok.

 

[Fbolt]

If you knew what you're talking about, I'd take what you say with a laugh, yet possibly with a grain of salt. Having a few episodes of Jack Ryan doesn't make one savvy when it comes to FIS.

 

[TracyGraham]

If you knew what you're talking about, I'd take what you say with a laugh, yet possibly with a grain of salt. Having a few episodes of Jack Ryan doesn't make one savvy when it comes to FIS.

What I say is pretty common conversation. I dont know if you are just consuming fox or what. Id guess a large portion of America andthe world assumes atleast Epstein was tied to Israel. You thinkI just made this up? You guys been in a shelter for the past year?
Are you and Drayer the same guy with 2 handles, lol?

 

[Fbolt]

A large portion of the world you live in also believes dudes are gals. Not exactly a common conversation in my world.

 

[TracyGraham]

A large portion of the world you live in also believes dudes are gals.

Really, when did conservatives believe dudes are gals? Is Drayer the gal or are you the gal? I have no idea what you are saying, haha? Is that supposed to imply Im some transgender advocate? Im a conservative. The difference is I'm not a mindless drone. Its ok to think for yourself. Dont be scared. It's healthy

 

[Fbolt]

So, you believe I'm a mindless drone because I do not believe what you believe. Got it.

 

[TracyGraham]

So, you believe I'm a mindless drone because I do not believe what you believe. Got it.

Naw man, when there is any issue related to the right you and others are like a broken clock. Same with the guys on the left. I guess that is the type of person that is attracted to a political forum so what should I expect?
If Trump said war is evil, you would tell us what an awesome idea it is. If he said we need to bomb the world, you would tell us how country X deserves it. If he says we need to implement a draft, you would call it righteous. It's pathetic

 

[Irish#1]

Dude, what are you even doing? I was hoping to be able to lat\y out opinions in good faith. Irish#1 said it was a stretch to claim Epstein, had deep ties to Israel. If having a former prime minister, and a former israeli spy stay at your house every time they came to NYC, while donating to various Israeli foundation(amongst all the other circumstantial ties to prominent Israeli figures that I listed and didnt list(Les Wexner, cough) doesnt show a connection what does?
Let's play a game.
If my family is Swedish and the the Swedish pm has multiple pajama parties at my house along with a former top swedish spy while I pay for the swedish spy's cancer treatments and donate to various swedish independence and defense foundations and get my first job on wall street from a prominent swedish figure(even though I have zero investment banking experience) and my girlfriend's dad was supposedly one of the greatest swedish spies of alltime. (Yeah, he stole nuclear secrets from us and had a high profile state funeral...)
And then you say, gee whiz, I think this guy might have deep ties to Sweden.How can you say that is Keith Olberman level? What are you trying to do?
Im guessing you need a picture of Epstein holding a confession to being tied to Israel. Even then, Im guessing you will claim it is doctored.

No, I meant that Trump starting the war with Iran to cover up or turn attention away from the Epstein files was a stretch.

 

[TracyGraham]

No, I meant that Trump starting the war with Iran to cover up or turn attention away from the Epstein files was a stretch.

Haha, ok, that makes more sense. Thanks for clarifying. I thought I was taking crazy pills 🙏.

 

[Fbolt]

Naw man, when there is any issue related to the right you and others are like a broken clock. Same with the guys on the left. I guess that is the type of person that is attracted to a political forum so what should I expect?
If Trump said war is evil, you would tell us what an awesome idea it is. If he said we need to bomb the world, you would tell us how country X deserves it. If he says we need to implement a draft, you would call it righteous. It's pathetic

Yep, pretty much encapsulates everything I've said. Your hate blinds you.

 

[TracyGraham]

Yep, pretty much encapsulates everything I've said. Your hate blinds you.

Dude, I have no idea what is going on with you. I was talking/debating, whatever you want to call it with Drayer and then you hoped in and next thing Im being rdiiculed for thinking girls are guys for some reason🤷‍♂️. Apologies if I lumped you in with him but there seems to be quite some confusion/miscommunication going on here. I have no clue where the transgender stuff came from. Maybe just hit reset, huh?☘️
Apologies

 

[drayer54]

What I say is pretty common conversation. I dont know if you are just consuming fox or what. Id guess a large portion of America andthe world assumes atleast Epstein was tied to Israel. You thinkI just made this up? You guys been in a shelter for the past year?
Are you and Drayer the same guy with 2 handles, lol?

Your bubble appears to be very insulated. Find someone without pronouns in their bio to talk to.

 

[TorontoGold]

Lmao you guys are so fucking simple minded. Tracey has argued against me plenty of times. Tracey is woke because they don’t fall in line with the rest of the IE MAGA contingent. Someone is trans and woke because they don’t fall face first into the fake AI slop truther gang. Just a group of sad divorced dads sending each other the same AI tweets about how sharia law is spreading. Fucking hell lmao

 

[TracyGraham]

Your bubble appears to be very insulated. Find someone without pronouns in their bio to talk to.

How is having pronouns in any way correlated to realizing this war is for Israel? I'm not really a big Rogan or Theo Vonn guy, and would normally be embarrassed to use them as a source, but they are right in the middle of the "brosphere" and they have drawn similar conclusions as me. They are literally the most popular podcasters in the world so it is main stream pal. You are the one on the fringe. Is Tucker a pronoun guy? Megyn Kelly? You seem like someone who would have been a huge Tucker fan 5 years ago, but now that he doesnt toe the line, I'm gonna guess you now replaced him with a Jesse Watters or another cog.
Honestly it doesnt matter who or what you listen to. Im not trying to assume or speak for you. The point is, my conclusions are hardly in a isolated bubble, whether it is trans or pronoun or whatever you chose as the ultimate insult. The pronoun angleis so weird of a pivot btw. Im sure I prob gave you a bunch of thumbs ups on domestic talking points onj here in the past.

 

[drayer54]

We're supposed to believe they aren't radical and crazy anymore because of polling and lost elections.

 

[ulukinatme]

We're supposed to believe they aren't radical and crazy anymore because of polling and lost elections.

This is the cycle though, right? One side is in power, the other side moves more towards center so they can win those Independent voters back. Rinse and repeat forever.

 

[drayer54]

This is the cycle though, right? One side is in power, the other side moves more towards center so they can win those Independent voters back. Rinse and repeat forever.

What mainstream republican views is the party running away from to win elections?

The left acknowledging they were wrong on COVID and have a bad message on police, DEI, climate, etc is pretty significant. It's like every major dem view in the 2020 cycle is now undefendable.

 

[drayer54]

Dear god,

Please give us a whole cycle with this crazy woman in the spotlight.

 

[drayer54]

The least popular governor this century in the commonwealth of Virginia, probably because she is a witch and bait and switch, a clear liar- is taking credit for Youngkin’s work.

 

[NDVirginia19]

theres plenty of cringe shit on the right in America but nothing comes anywhere close to this lmfao

 

[drayer54]

Elections have consequences

 

[drayer54]

Of course Minnesota let him out-

 

[Irish#1]

Of course Minnesota let him out-

Fools forgot to take away his passport.

 

[Irish#1]

 

[TorontoGold]

Is this the part where the Left is supposed to call it hearsay? politically motivated? Not pass judgement until this legal process is played out?

 

[drayer54]

Is this the part where the Left is supposed to call it hearsay? politically motivated? Not pass judgement until this legal process is played out?

all the right wing women scandals are alleged/unfounded/youderpknowitstruecuzofBibi by questionable characters. Lefties for some reason like to bust out the iPhone when they do cocaine and hookers.

Is that Mrs. Swalwell? The campaign babysitting recipient? Fang Fang’s ex? The guy who leaked intel and made up bad intel with Schiff on Trump? This da guy? You can wait to pass judgement. Someone on the left is coming after his ass right now.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Is this the part where the Left is supposed to call it hearsay? politically motivated? Not pass judgement until this legal process is played out?

I’m just gonna follow his lead

 

[TorontoGold]

all the right wing women scandals are alleged/unfounded/youderpknowitstruecuzofBibi by questionable characters. Lefties for some reason like to bust out the iPhone when they do cocaine and hookers.

Is that Mrs. Swalwell? The campaign babysitting recipient? Fang Fang’s ex? The guy who leaked intel and made up bad intel with Schiff on Trump? This da guy? You can wait to pass judgement. Someone on the left is coming after his ass right now.
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Lmao I’m just calling out the hypocrisy, I hope SwallowWell is never seen from again.

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I’m just gonna follow his lead

Oh great, now let’s do that for others too. I wonder if there’s a history of hypocritical tweets from another rape guy……

I’m shocked you aren’t arguing the technicalities here. Could have sworn you were a big due process guy.

 

[drayer54]

Lmao I’m just calling out the hypocrisy, I hope SwallowWell is never seen from again.

When you get hit this hard and fast during primary season- you’ve made a bad enemy. Swalwell pissed someone off that he should not have. The only time you see Dems go after Dems like this is when it benefits another Dem.

 

[Fbolt]

Seems fishy AF to me.