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[ab2cmiller]

What are you talking about? Who said anything about something being record breaking?

He’s just bringing up his pet peeve again. Someone 8-12 months ago posted something about record breaking inflation.

 

[Bishop2b5]

He’s just bringing up his pet peeve again. Someone 8-12 months ago posted something about record breaking inflation.

Ahh, OK. I thought maybe he was mad that someone had claimed Biden had said a record breaking number of lies and dumb things last month when we all know it didn't quite reach the level of October. 😁

 

[SeekNDestroy]

Ahh, OK. I thought maybe he was mad that someone had claimed Biden had said a record breaking number of lies and dumb things last month when we all know it didn't quite reach the level of Trump.

FIFY

 

[Armyirish47]

What are you talking about? Who said anything about something being record breaking?

Polish. The person I was having a discussion with......

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Tell me exactly who added 7.8 trillion in four years to the debt…. I’ll wait

Tell me how many countries had lower inflation rates than the US did in 2022. I'll wait lmaaaaooooooooooooo

Trump signed a $2.3 trillion spending bill in Dec 2020, $900 billion of which was allocated for Covid relief. Whether you agree or disagree, it doesn't come close to what Biden has done since he took office.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Tell me how many countries had lower inflation rates than the US did in 2022. I'll wait lmaaaaooooooooooooo

Trump signed a $2.3 trillion spending bill in Dec 2020, $900 billion of which was allocated for Covid relief. Whether you agree or disagree, it doesn't come close to what Biden has done since he took office.

Good lord….his tax cuts added 7.8 trillion in debt over four years.

How many industrialized countries had inflation better than the uS? 10 and they weren’t much better. Which is what I said. If you want to count Brunei and Micronesia in those then go ahead. Haha.

If all the theee major issues causing inflation Biden has little to zero control over it.

Don’t blame Joe Biden for high inflation | Steven Greenhouse

For any American who is thinking of voting Republican out of anger about inflation, here’s some advice: look before you leap

www.theguardian.com

 

[drayer54]

Good lord….his tax cuts added 7.8 trillion in debt over four years.

How many industrialized countries had inflation better than the uS? 10 and they weren’t much better. Which is what I said. If you want to count Brunei and Micronesia in those then go ahead. Haha.

If all the theee major issues causing inflation Biden has little to zero control over it.

Don’t blame Joe Biden for high inflation | Steven Greenhouse

For any American who is thinking of voting Republican out of anger about inflation, here’s some advice: look before you leap

www.theguardian.com

This goes back to the pathetic denial. Joe Biden is not responsible for anything except people getting to go back to work and the result on the deficit. Everything else happened to Joe Biden and was completely unavoidable. Printing trillions into an overheated economy should never be linked to inflation. If we must address the inflation problem, it is Republicans pouncing on repeated bad inflation numbers.

 

[GoIrish41]

Mapped: Which Countries Have the Highest Inflation?

Many countries around the world are facing double or triple-digit inflation. See which countries have the highest inflation rates on this map.

www.visualcapitalist.com

 

[Irish#1]

Seems like the catch all thread for this...
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Been in poor health for a long time. Hope he goes peacefully. Great humanitarian.

 

[Irish#1]

Tell me exactly who added 7.8 trillion in four years to the debt…. I’ll wait

 

[drayer54]

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This is uneducated. It’s cyclical and global.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

I don’t think it’s a stretch to accept the fact that injecting “free” or ”printed” money into the economy, especially on a huge scale, is going to accelerate inflation. The more injecting, the more inflation. From an economic standpoint, it’s a sound viewpoint. I‘ll be very surprised if the cost of any goods/services will ever drop to levels close to what they were 2 or 3 years ago. I know we kept hearing that prices would drop back down and the high prices were only transitory but I’m expecting time to show this is going to be a largely false statement.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Sen. John Fetterman, D-Pa., was rushed to a Washington, D.C., hospital Wednesday. Lots of back and forth during his campaign about his health and ability to serve after having a stroke. Those concerns might be valid. Here's to a speedy recovery.

The usual suspects in the left leaning media absolutely 100% ran interference for Fetterman and straight up lied to all of us about his health just to gain a seat in the Senate. This sort of blatant bias and dishonesty from them is why so many people have lost all respect for journalists and have no faith at all in their integrity and honesty.

Fetterman's Hospitalization Is Reminder Media Lied To Get Him Elected | Opinion

The Fetterman saga is one more indictment of a mainstream liberal media that has long since abandoned its duty to report the news fairly, opting instead for partisan cheerleading. In doing so, the press is not merely responsible for helping to elect a senator who cannot serve, but is making it impossible to believe anything it reports.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

 

[Irish#1]

Over the objection of medical professionals? Twelve out of fifteen members of Florida's medical board are physicians. Probably not a bad idea given the still needed development of a child's brain.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Why in the world would any rational person think it's OK to allow a minor child to make such a decision? Their brains aren't fully formed and they lack the experience and wisdom to be competent enough to make an informed decision on such matters. You don't let them at that age for exactly the same reason you don't let them vote, drive, buy a gun, sign most contracts, have sex with someone much older, or make any other major life choices. You're willing to let a child make THIS permanent life-altering decision, though, just for the sake of your woke political views? Have you no shame?

 

[SeekNDestroy]

Why in the world would any rational person think it's OK to allow a minor child to make such a decision? Their brains aren't fully formed and they lack the experience and wisdom to be competent enough to make an informed decision on such matters. You don't let them at that age for exactly the same reason you don't let them vote, drive, buy a gun, sign most contracts, have sex with someone much older, or make any other major life choices. You're willing to let a child make THIS permanent life-altering decision, though, just for the sake of your woke political views? Have you no shame?

But their brains aren’t fully developed until around the age of 25. Should we not allow people under 25 to do any of the other things you mentioned?

I know you consider transgenders to be mentally ill, but can you at least empathize with someone going through adolescence that thinks they are in the wrong body? If physicians are willing to sign off and if they understand all the ramifications, then why can’t they make that decision?

 

[Bishop2b5]

But their brains aren’t fully developed until around the age of 25. Should we not allow people under 25 to do any of the other things you mentioned?

I know you consider transgenders to be mentally ill, but can you at least empathize with someone going through adolescence that thinks they are in the wrong body? If physicians are willing to sign off and if they understand all the ramifications, then why can’t they make that decision?

I can sympathize with them feeling they're trapped in the wrong body, and I understand it all must be difficult. It still doesn't rise close to the level of justifying such a permanent decision by a child. Children go through all sorts of phases and are 100% this today, and 100% that tomorrow. The vast majority of them make incredibly poor decisions because they don't have the experience, insight, wisdom, maturity, or brain development yet to do so. That's the nature of childhood and a developing brain that's still, to a large extent, a blank slate. They aren't capable of making such a decision about gender reassignment and those of you pushing it should be ashamed for putting politics and ideology ahead of child welfare.

No matter what a 12-year-old said or felt or how much they swore on their life that they understood what they were doing and understood all the consequences, we wouldn't say it was OK for then to have a sexual relationship with an adult. Virtually all of us agree that by definition, that 12-year-old isn't capable of making such a choice yet. Same with gender-altering surgery & hormone treatment.

I don't believe there is such a thing as being trapped in the wrong body. I've never said I thought such people were insane. I've said they have a mental disorder. There's a huge difference. I believe they deserve compassion, but I believe they need psychological or psychiatric treatment, not encouragement to pursue their delusion, just as we don't encourage a schizophrenic to listen to the voices he hears. We encourage him to seek therapy. Even if I believed it was legit, though, reason and human decency says you don't allow a child to do this for exactly the same reason you don't let them make other major, permanent, life-altering decisions.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

But their brains aren’t fully developed until around the age of 25. Should we not allow people under 25 to do any of the other things you mentioned?

I know you consider transgenders to be mentally ill, but can you at least empathize with someone going through adolescence that thinks they are in the wrong body? If physicians are willing to sign off and if they understand all the ramifications, then why can’t they make that decision?

Freedom for me but not for thee...

 

[SeekNDestroy]

I can sympathize with them feeling they're trapped in the wrong body, and I understand it all must be difficult. It still doesn't rise close to the level of justifying such a permanent decision by a child. Children go through all sorts of phases and are 100% this today, and 100% that tomorrow. The vast majority of them make incredibly poor decisions because they don't have the experience, insight, wisdom, maturity, or brain development yet to do so. That's the nature of childhood and a developing brain that's still, to a large extent, a blank slate. They aren't capable of making such a decision about gender reassignment and those of you pushing it should be ashamed for putting politics and ideology ahead of child welfare.

No matter what a 12-year-old said or felt or how much they swore on their life that they understood what they were doing and understood all the consequences, we wouldn't say it was OK for then to have a sexual relationship with an adult. Virtually all of us agree that by definition, that 12-year-old isn't capable of making such a choice yet. Same with gender-altering surgery & hormone treatment.

I don't believe there is such a thing as being trapped in the wrong body. I've never said I thought such people were insane. I've said they have a mental disorder. There's a huge difference. I believe they deserve compassion, but I believe they need psychological or psychiatric treatment, not encouragement to pursue their delusion, just as we don't encourage a schizophrenic to listen to the voices he hears. We encourage him to seek therapy. Even if I believed it was legit, though, reason and human decency says you don't allow a child to do this for exactly the same reason you don't let them make other major, permanent, life-altering decisions.

Just to be clear, I didn’t say you thought transgenders were insane; I said you thought they were mentally ill. Mentally disordered is, however, the correct term (for the opinion you hold.)

Also, sympathy and empathy are obviously different. I know you know this, but it does change the question I asked of you (although I realize it may not change your answer.)

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Good lord….his tax cuts added 7.8 trillion in debt over four years.

How many industrialized countries had inflation better than the uS? 10 and they weren’t much better. Which is what I said. If you want to count Brunei and Micronesia in those then go ahead. Haha.

If all the theee major issues causing inflation Biden has little to zero control over it.

Don’t blame Joe Biden for high inflation | Steven Greenhouse

For any American who is thinking of voting Republican out of anger about inflation, here’s some advice: look before you leap

www.theguardian.com

If you can't see the connection between the trillions in spending and inflation, it's a you problem.

 

[Bishop2b5]

If you can't see the connection between the trillions in spending and inflation, it's a you problem.

The person on IE who is wrong the most is the one who is least capable of recognizing or admitting it. It's Internet entertainment at its finest!

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

. Open calls for secession now.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

If you can't see the connection between the trillions in spending and inflation, it's a you problem.

Sure I’ll just rely on your expert opinion who never cites anything.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Poor white males. #White SuffrageParty

 

[irishff1014]

. Open calls for secession now.

I am clearly not a democrat and I am not voting for one but this lady is certified. She is a wack job that doesn’t need to be an elected official.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I am clearly not a democrat and I am not voting for one but this lady is certified. She is a wack job that doesn’t need to be an elected official.

I haven’t posted what she said earlier today about black people. Not going to either She has zero business being in the position she is in.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Good article on the danger of ultra radical "wokeness" and its threat to America.

MSN

www.msn.com

This threat to American culture is 'political correctness on steroids'​

Opinion by David Marcus​

Over the past decade or so a rhetorical shift has occurred in our political and social discourse. "Political correctness," the long-standing standard term for the ideological excesses of the left, was replaced by the term "woke."

The 'woke revolution' is led by the establishment, not against it: Victor Davis Hanson​

Is this change simply a style shift, a new word to describe basically the same thing as the old? Or does wokeness differ significantly from the concept of political correctness?

I posed this question on social media recently, as well as to some colleagues who write often on the subject and the general consensus seemed to be that wokeness is a kind of industrial strength PC, as one person put it, "PC on steroids."

But what makes wokeness so much more aggressive than political correctness? What are the sinews that give it such industrial strength?

Both terms date at least back to the mid-Twentieth Century, both saw their meanings alter during that time, but unlike woke, PC was never a term that progressives used about themselves in a positive way. By the mid 1970s PC was being used by academics on the left to self deprecatingly warn against becoming too attached to orthodoxies.

Dave Rubin: The woke mind virus has infected our government, education and entertainment institutions​

It was not until 1987, and Allan Bloom’s book ‘The Closing of the American Mind’ focused on campuses, that the term became an attack widely used by the right against a left who they accused of shutting down speech in deference to those very orthodoxies.

By 1992 Pat Buchanan had made fighting political correctness central to his presidential campaign. The eventual GOP nominee, George HW Bush, who was far from a culture warrior, even decried it in a 1991 commencement address, specifically mentioning the problem in universities.

Throughout the 1990’s there was room to gently mock PC culture, as ‘Seinfeld’ famously did in the episode where Kramer declines to wear the red AIDS ribbon. "Who doesn’t want to wear the ribbon!" an activist bellows. We are meant to be on Kramer’s side and laugh at the absurd virtue signaling. Importantly, Kramer even supports the movement, he just doesn’t want to be told how to express it.

Political Correctness was much more of a loose social contract than the set of codified rules that would take hold with wokeness. Importantly the speech codes of the PC era tended to be restrictions on subject matters such as black on black crime, issues in the gay community, or the cultural impacts of mass immigration.

Compelled speech was not typically a feature of political correctness, that would change with the rise of wokeness.

Occupy Wall Street in 2011 offers an early example of the codification of progressive ideology that marks wokeism. The governing body of OWS, known as the General Assembly, employed what is called a "progressive stack" for its meetings. Anyone could speak, but slots were given in order of how marginalized the speaker's identities were. A black, trans lesbian would speak very early, a straight white guy would speak last, if time permitted.

The idea here was to redress centuries of straight white guys doing most of the talking in government, but it was far more explicit in its silencing of those voices than PC had ever been.

A few years later, in 2015, over 80 theater companies around the country would sign a pledge, called Jubilee 2020, that promised in that year they would produce no plays by straight, cis, able, white men. The loose social contract was calcifying into the tablets of the law. And in this set of woke commandments, compelled speech would play a major role.

Unlike the relatively flexible speech restrictions of political correctness, wokeness requires us to affirmatively use the "correct" pronouns, to sign the confessional statement at our company’s DEI training, and to wear the pride jersey.

Jordan Peterson’s meteoric rise to fame began with his refusal to use his student’s pronouns. It was a tipping point for many who had seen political correctness as tedious but tolerable but, like Kramer, couldn’t abide being forced into speech.

The upshot of the transition from PC to wokeness has thankfully been a swift backlash in recent years, not only from pundits but from political leaders like Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis, both of whom have championed laws and regulations aimed at weakening wokeness’ hold on society.

Americans aren’t just rolling their eyes anymore, they see a real threat to our schools, to kids indoctrinated by gender ideology, to corporations held hostage by DEI departments, and even to art and storytelling.

For 25 years political correctness walked a tightrope, never going far enough to spark meaningful ire, in the age of wokeness that is over. A new cultural battle has been joined, and this time there seems to be very little room for compromise.

 

[drayer54]

Over the objection of medical professionals? Twelve out of fifteen members of Florida's medical board are physicians. Probably not a bad idea given the still needed development of a child's brain.

Are we saying Florida decided people not old enough to drink, smoke, or vote need to also wait to hack off their genitals or block puberty? Is that what this? If so, great job to them and fuck every cruel POS parent subjecting their kids to pressure to transition as a teen. Unbelievable. It can wait.

 

[Bishop2b5]

What MTG said that has Cack so upset and clutching his pearls, was to suggest that Blacks should focus more on how far they've come and be proud of that. That's the outlook of almost all of us whose ancestors came here as poor immigrants looking for a better life. Most, if not all, of my ancestors came here in that situation. That's how most of our ancestors came here. Instead of bragging about our ancestors who were Nobles, we brag about how tough our poor immigrant ancestors were and how they fought and clawed their way upwards. We celebrate our rise out of poverty and humble origins, and take a lot of pride in that. She simply suggested that Blacks take the same pride in overcoming their difficult past here too. She's a nut and bomb thrower much of the time, but she's right about this one.