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I mean imagine the whole world being generally reliant on one form of energy controlled by relatively few sources and then those sources fuck with every one causing turmoil. Also imagine being a country trying to develop additional energy sources and half the country fights it tooth and nail and makes it as hard as humanly possible to develop quickly so they aren’t reliant in a foreign country for energy. Political hot takes aside there is zero reason not to be going full bore into aternative energy that can be made at home that also isn’t a fossil fuel.
Except for intertia and controllable generation. This is the thought process that has us fighting blackouts.
 

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I'm a bit surprised they're using the "sputtering" PC sales as a reason to cut employment. Haven't sales dwindled largely due to the chip shortages we've been seeing the last few years? Look at the video card market. I know it's a competitor, but the Ryzens have been flying off the shelves the last few years. I haven't looked recently, but they couldn't keep them in stock awhile back. That tells me there's not demand problems, there's supply problems. Looks like their new chip factories won't start getting built until late this year and 2025 though, so this is probably a bottom line situation until they can start actually producing more chips.
 

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I'm a bit surprised they're using the "sputtering" PC sales as a reason to cut employment. Haven't sales dwindled largely due to the chip shortages we've been seeing the last few years? Look at the video card market. I know it's a competitor, but the Ryzens have been flying off the shelves the last few years. I haven't looked recently, but they couldn't keep them in stock awhile back. That tells me there's not demand problems, there's supply problems. Looks like their new chip factories won't start getting built until late this year and 2025 though, so this is probably a bottom line situation until they can start actually producing more chips.
Any reason will do when it comes to profitability and shareholders.
 

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Any reason will do when it comes to profitability and shareholders.
People are worried about their pocketbook, cack. Intel is a small mom and pop company. Inflation is set by the government, and actually corporations have no say in pricing. If you want consumer protections, then you are a communist. Some day, I may be worth 100M so I advocate for them because they just work harder. If you focused on the real issues like inflation that it is unrelated to other countries you'd be a lot wiser. Sad,...,.,..,.,;....,(am I doing the punctuation thing correctly?
 

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People are worried about their pocketbook, cack. Intel is a small mom and pop company. Inflation is set by the government, and actually corporations have no say in pricing. If you want consumer protections, then you are a communist. Some day, I may be worth 100M so I advocate for them because they just work harder. If you focused on the real issues like inflation that it is unrelated to other countries you'd be a lot wiser. Sad,...,.,..,.,;....,(am I doing the punctuation thing correctly?
Have you tried asking your local gas station to just lower the price?

Do you think trillions of partisan spending impacted inflation?

Can you tell me how the inflation reduction act worked to reduce inflation?

Do higher input costs cause companies to have to increase product prices?

Am I doing this right?
 

TorontoGold

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Have you tried asking your local gas station to just lower the price?

Do you think trillions of partisan spending impacted inflation?

Can you tell me how the inflation reduction act worked to reduce inflation?

Do higher input costs cause companies to have to increase product prices?

Am I doing this right?
Have you considered that corporate overlords have too much power? That reducing regulations, and letting them off the hook countless times has lead to these conditions? What sort of hardships are they going through right now.
 

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Have you considered that corporate overlords have too much power? That reducing regulations, and letting them off the hook countless times has lead to these conditions? What sort of hardships are they going through right now.
Whoa- first thing, you implied that government was not responsible for inflation and companies pricing things higher is what is driving the inflation problem. I need to know if you really believe that.

Also- no, I think we’re over regulated. You just keep tacking on red tape and never easing up. It’s why we can’t build anything. It’s why California doesn’t have a bullet train. It’s a big reason why Southern Co has doubled the budget and time on their big nuke project.

What regulation reduction are you referring to?
Who was let off the hook?

Also- we’re injecting TRILLIONS into government preferred industries. Does this have no impact?
 

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Whoa- first thing, you implied that government was not responsible for inflation and companies pricing things higher is what is driving the inflation problem. I need to know if you really believe that.

Also- no, I think we’re over regulated. You just keep tacking on red tape and never easing up. It’s why we can’t build anything. It’s why California doesn’t have a bullet train. It’s a big reason why Southern Co has doubled the budget and time on their big nuke project.

What regulation reduction are you referring to?
Who was let off the hook?

Also- we’re injecting TRILLIONS into government preferred industries. Does this have no impact?
Let me simplify it for you.

1) Government bail outs with little consequences (2008 recession)
2) These corps come back and pilfer the middle class during a great bull market
3) Government inexplicably gives them tax breaks, actual braindead moves
4) Government gives out PPP loans with insane forgiveness terms
5) Economies reach the end of the cycle as they experience high inflation
6) Smooth brains want to blame the empty husk who happens to be in charge when the economic cycle is resetting.
7) All the while corporations receive no scrutiny and continue to see record profits.

So the blame should be placed on the previous administrations that essentially threw gasoline on the situation, and the corporations for shamelessly exploiting people.

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Let me simplify it for you.

1) Government bail outs with little consequences (2008 recession)
2) These corps come back and pilfer the middle class during a great bull market
3) Government inexplicably gives them tax breaks, actual braindead moves
4) Government gives out PPP loans with insane forgiveness terms
5) Economies reach the end of the cycle as they experience high inflation
6) Smooth brains want to blame the empty husk who happens to be in charge when the economic cycle is resetting.
7) All the while corporations receive no scrutiny and continue to see record profits.

So the blame should be placed on the previous administrations that essentially threw gasoline on the situation, and the corporations for shamelessly exploiting people.

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Government shouldn’t bail out, unless government is the cause…

The empty husk who is in charge has done everything to usher this crap in. Utopian assumptions and disingenuous policy actions have boxed our energy policy options into a corner. We’re now vulnerable to the problems overseas and helpless to OPEC, which despite that empty husk trying to push OPEC into helping him in the midterms,

Not all corporations are recording record profits and the idea that we have no scrutiny is insane to me. This is whining. Blaming previous administrations and actual economics for the shortfalls CAUSED BY DEMOCRATS shows me you really just don’t want to get it.

The dem tagline above about voting like I might have 100M one day is the other thing that still cracks me up. I am not benefitting from any of the stupid partisan spending bills that Biden has signed. It’s not 100M folks who hurt because of Biden’s complete incompetence.

Looks like a bunch of folks are struggling to comprehend how we got here.
 
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Government shouldn’t bail out, unless government is the cause…

The empty husk who is in charge has done everything to usher this crap in. Utopian assumptions and disingenuous policy actions have boxed our energy policy options into a corner. We’re now vulnerable to the problems overseas and helpless to OPEC, which despite that empty husk trying to push OPEC into helping him in the midterms,

Not all corporations are recording record profits and the idea that we have no scrutiny is insane to me. This is whining. Blaming previous administrations and actual economics for the shortfalls CAUSED BY DEMOCRATS shows me you really just don’t want to get it.

The dem tagline above about voting like I might have 100M one day is the other thing that still cracks me up. I am not benefitting from any of the stupid partisan spending bills that Biden has signed. It’s not 100M folks who hurt because of Biden’s complete incompetence.
Hey buddy, who was president in 2008 and for the recovery period? The guy I placed blame at for letting off the hook? Tell me who's partisan lol. Do I have to say BARACK OBAMA for you to get it? Is that clear enough? I know I know it's not something the Apologists do on here but yes I think the Blue team has had some missteps.

The only time any sort of meaningful corporate regulations are proposed by Republicans is when that company says something like "Gay's are people too" and then Ronny D becomes a progressive and wants to remove tax breaks for Disney. I swear to god if Bank of America said something like "Trans people can open bank accounts here" we'd see meaningful SOX amendments.
 

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Have you tried asking your local gas station to just lower the price? They already sell gas at as low prices as they can what else can they do?

Do you think trillions of partisan spending impacted inflation? What does this have to do with global inflation and supply shortages? What does the trillions in tax cuts and keeping loan rates at near zero for 10 plus years do?

Can you tell me how the inflation reduction act worked to reduce inflation? Exactly how long should it take to reduce infaltion?

Do higher input costs cause companies to have to increase product prices? Not when companies are recording record profits and reporting historic shareholder dividends.

Am I doing this right?
No you aren’t. Lol.
 
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Hey buddy, who was president in 2008 and for the recovery period? The guy I placed blame at for letting off the hook? Tell me who's partisan lol. Do I have to say BARACK OBAMA for you to get it? Is that clear enough? I know I know it's not something the Apologists do on here but yes I think the Blue team has had some missteps.

The only time any sort of meaningful corporate regulations are proposed by Republicans is when that company says something like "Gay's are people too" and then Ronny D becomes a progressive and wants to remove tax breaks for Disney. I swear to god if Bank of America said something like "Trans people can open bank accounts here" we'd see meaningful SOX amendments.
14 years ago.
 

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I'm sorry and apologize for being white. I need an act of contrition that will cleanse my soul.
Didn’t say anything about you personally. But if your current parties political platform talking points match that of the KKK and known white supremacist word for word then maybe you (general you) ought to reflect in that.
 

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Didn’t say anything about you personally. But if your current parties political platform talking points match that of the KKK and known white supremacist word for word then maybe you (general you) ought to reflect in that.
No worries Cack, didn't think it was personal. Except you're cherry picking. The vast majority of Republicans don't come close to this thinking. Maybe you should reflect on that.
 

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Maybe ol' Herschel didn't do as bad as some think.


Headline from another ajc.com article. Not signing up for subscriber content, but the headline seems to indicate he's doing okay.

Post-debate: Walker rallies while Warnock fact-checks​

 

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That's correct! My point was the mismanagement at the start of the economic expansion contributed to all of this. Everyone played their part in this.

I'd give you a star, but my point is that was 14 years ago. There is very little from that recovery effecting today.
 

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I'd give you a star, but my point is that was 14 years ago. There is very little from that recovery effecting today.
Can you support that position in economic terms? Because I'm curious as to what economic basis this opinion is formed on.

It's widely accepted that MBS drove a big part of the 2007/2008 recession, which was largely impacted by Clinton and the FSMA that allowed banking institutions to make MBS'. I know that's ~7 years before the recession. As well the SMMEA that was signed in 1984 contributed to the recession as it set the stage for FSMA. Clinton and Reagan had a big big hand in that recession.

The point is that a lot goes into the economic life cycle that isn't just last week's spending.
 
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