Oct 11 | NC State

Bane

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We need to stop propping up the ACC and let nature take its course with that middling conference. Last week was just bad reffing all around this is egregiously corrupt.
 

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Its fun to go in my backyard and listen for real time updates from Autzen for the Ducks Indiana game
 

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Regardless of the previous outcomes, I want Marcus to stay aggressive.
Keep going for it… most of the time!
Ehhh, 4th and inches sure. That 4th and 3 was a terrible decision. If we had taken either one of the FGs we would be up 13-7 at half with a chance to be up 20-7 before NCSt can even touch the ball again. That matters. Denbrock is a great OC but he lost RL and is lost on short yardage.
 

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There is just 0 justification how one of those two plays can be ruled complete and then another incomplete.
the only indefensible call is not overturning the catch. There was clear evidence it wasn't a catch.

The pick is a tough to argue with the call in a vacuum. But there weren't camera shot issues with either one, so it's bullshit for them to fall back on the clear and obvious standard...you're either willing to give a little room for the ball to wiggle on the ground or you're not.
 

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Stay aggressive, but for love of all that is holy run the ball when you’ve got 6 inches to go. Ask any lady 6 inches isn’t that hard
 

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Regardless of the previous outcomes, I want Marcus to stay aggressive.
Keep going for it… most of the time!
I want to agree but we have enough evidence that whatever we’re doing on those fourth downs isn’t working. If we don’t have better plays to run to try something new, then stop doing it and take the points
 

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the only indefensible call is not overturning the catch. There was clear evidence it wasn't a catch.

The pick is a tough to argue with the call in a vacuum. But there weren't camera shot issues with either one, so it's bullshit for them to fall back on the clear and obvious standard...you're either willing to give a little room for the ball to wiggle on the ground or you're not.
Yes but this is willful imo. They called both close plays in such a manner that it made overturning them tough because of the (bullshit and totally ridiculous) standard of "clear and obvious" evidence to overturn. Both calls would have went the opposite way had the roles been reversed. 3 close calls all went against ND. I mean they picked up an obvious DPI flag in the endzone.
 

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Is this an ACC crew - if so why don't we get to hear and see them like we do for other ACC games?
 

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I am once again asking you to shame and shun the refs in your life. To the absolute bottom line extent that we need them in order to have sports at all they should be allowed in public, but in all other aspects of personal/civic life they should be considered part of an untouchable social caste.
 

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Some crappy calls by the OC. We also are up against the refs - I assume they are ACC. That incomplete pass let go was off the charts.
 

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Well, at this point I’ve seen enough evidence to say this team would be undefeated if they had better coaching (not necessarily better coaches, but better coaching execution). That includes O Coordinator, D Coordinator, and Head Coach
 

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It would be 21 - 7 but for the penalties. That one by Price was the most costly.
 

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I want to agree but we have enough evidence that whatever we’re doing on those fourth downs isn’t working. If we don’t have better plays to run to try something new, then stop doing it and take the points


nope... always go for it early in the game

just go

Tell your guys you believe in them and go, no matter what. Figure it out at the end of the game.
 

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Ehhh, 4th and inches sure. That 4th and 3 was a terrible decision. If we had taken either one of the FGs we would be up 13-7 at half with a chance to be up 20-7 before NCSt can even touch the ball again. That matters. Denbrock is a great OC but he lost RL and is lost on short yardage.
Bigger issue is just 3/4th and short in general.

They're sub 50% converting those this season. And it's not just an OL issue, play calling is also awful.
 
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