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Richmond up on Notre Dame 5-4 at half. Rainy, cold day in Richmond... not a sharp game so far.
 

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Definitely not an impressive showing so far...
Faceoffs...okay....wingplay...ah
Schmidt...ah
Clearing blunders
shorty defensive middies...ah

Costabile made some plays to get them back in it. Hopefully they come out with a sharper second half!
 

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Definitely not an impressive showing so far...
Faceoffs...okay....wingplay...ah
Schmidt...ah
Clearing blunders
shorty defensive middies...ah

Costabile made some plays to get them back in it. Hopefully they come out with a sharper second half!

Just really sloppy. So many unforced turnovers and bad shots. Not sure if this team makes the tournament. The bottom line is we saw none of the stuff we saw week 1 on offense. They played Gleason at attack and were super static with what they tried to do... when they did have openings and opportunities to capitalize they threw the ball away. I really don't agree with what they're trying to do at attack and midfield right now, they made it way too easy to account for Costabile and then forced all the offense through him when the other stuff wasn't working.

Also, the officiating was crap. But that is not why ND lost, at all.
 

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Ya, I've just come to expect that their offense will always be what it will be...a few elite players with an average scheme that will be....okay....
The biggest thing that stood out to me, was wing play...just poor...get the freakin' ground ball and run/throw to space....spoiled from Sexton I guess.
Nice coaching there at the end..(Costabile, take it and let's hope you make something happen...no matter what your angle is or how many people force you out.)
 

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Ya, I've just come to expect that their offense will always be what it will be...a few elite players with an average scheme that will be....okay....
The biggest thing that stood out to me, was wing play...just poor...get the freakin' ground ball and run/throw to space....spoiled from Sexton I guess.
Nice coaching there at the end..(Costabile, take it and let's hope you make something happen...no matter what your angle is or how many people force you out.)

You can’t overestimate John’s impact on the ND program. He was worth 2-3 goals per game. I would alternate Crance and Kielty at pole. Goalie play is still sub-par given the strength of this close D.
 

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Ya, I've just come to expect that their offense will always be what it will be...a few elite players with an average scheme that will be....okay....
The biggest thing that stood out to me, was wing play...just poor...get the freakin' ground ball and run/throw to space....spoiled from Sexton I guess.
Nice coaching there at the end..(Costabile, take it and let's hope you make something happen...no matter what your angle is or how many people force you out.)

The insane part of that to me is that you KNOW they are going to key on him. So why not start the ball in Gleason's hands with a midfield dodge, draw a slide, swing it through X and then go with Costabile? You had plenty of time to do that off the first timeout, and at least then you get some sort of favorable matchup.
 

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The insane part of that to me is that you KNOW they are going to key on him. So why not start the ball in Gleason's hands with a midfield dodge, draw a slide, swing it through X and then go with Costabile? You had plenty of time to do that off the first timeout, and at least then you get some sort of favorable matchup.

I agree with the Gleebo idea. Tactical adjustments are not an ND strength. Kavenasty spoiled the Irish staff and now without Garnsey, they're that much easier to game plan for. Thank God the ACC is crap this year.
 

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The insane part of that to me is that you KNOW they are going to key on him. So why not start the ball in Gleason's hands with a midfield dodge, draw a slide, swing it through X and then go with Costabile? You had plenty of time to do that off the first timeout, and at least then you get some sort of favorable matchup.

Said the same thing to my boys...surely they're going to work a 1/2 punch with Costabile and Gleason here....Maybe find Willets sneakin' around the crease with an open look...
 

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I agree with the Gleebo idea. Tactical adjustments are not an ND strength. Kavenasty spoiled the Irish staff and now without Garnsey, they're that much easier to game plan for. Thank God the ACC is crap this year.

Let's hope. I can still see them making a lot of noise, especially Duke...
 

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I agree with the Gleebo idea. Tactical adjustments are not an ND strength. Kavenasty spoiled the Irish staff and now without Garnsey, they're that much easier to game plan for. Thank God the ACC is crap this year.

Truest sentence in this thread.
 

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Tough stretch of games coming up. Must win one of the next two to rebound and have a great season. To salvage a good season, the Irish will need to run the table (maybe one loss) in the ACC and beat tough out of conference opponents like Cornell and OSU. They need to get more stops from the keeper and a more balanced game plan on offense. Having only two players who can take it to the rack is not a viable D1 offense. Giving up stoppable goals can't happen when your offense is so anemic.

Stubbornness/rigidity regarding personnel and scheme has been this staff's Achilles heel forever. Does the fear of not making the playoffs provide the impetus for change? Time will tell.
 
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sounds like we're kind of between a rock and a hard place with Corrigan. Swarbrick needs to earn his money and figure out a way of getting the "all time great" coach to evolve with the times without causing a PR mess.

But where does this fit on his to do list? Probably a hell of a long way down.
 

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Damn what a win. Give up tying score with 16 secs only to get the winning score in OT. Awesome. What a play too
 

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I thought there was a 0.0% chance they were going to win in OT after not only giving up tying goal on freak circumstances but missing a one-on-none scoring opportunity at the end of the game.

Richmond game may just end up being a “blip” on account of awful weather. The top 6 of Costabile-Gleason-Morrin-Westlin-Willetts-Jackoboice was very effective on offense. Defense could be better, tight now they’re conceding way more high quality scoring chances than you expect to typically see.
 

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Rough start....really thought they were going to be in trouble when it was 4-1. I feel like they knew they needed this game, and started playing with a greater sense of urgency to get the W. Nice to see "the top 6" actually generate some offense!
Hopes for the season are definitely back! Let's Go!
 

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Nice win. Unbearable broadcasters. Less banter, more commentary on the game please.

Side note; do not record without extending 30 minutes. ESPN had it for 2 hours on the guide which gets you to 10 minutes left in the game.
 

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Very happy to see Willetts learning to use that big frame and impose his will. Very nice win. I’m liking the shot clock addition this season.
 

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Very happy to see Willetts learning to use that big frame and impose his will. Very nice win. I’m liking the shot clock addition this season.

Shot clock is freakin' huge. No way ND wins that game if it's not installed. The way Maryland dominated face-offs, they would have milked the crap out of that game.
 

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Shot clock is freakin' huge. No way ND wins that game if it's not installed. The way Maryland dominated face-offs, they would have milked the crap out of that game.

FOs and the keeper worry the heck out of me. To quote Tom Cruise in Risky Business, sometimes you have to say "WTF" on offense. Let the boys play loose and free! Tighten up than D and press out a little more to give that keeper some confidence. Allowing that many goals is really worrisome. Another big test next week, Tierney has had Corrigan's number for as long as I can remember. See the NCAA tape for a quick refresher video session.
 

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FOs and the keeper worry the heck out of me. To quote Tom Cruise in Risky Business, sometimes you have to say "WTF" on offense. Let the boys play loose and free! Tighten up than D and press out a little more to give that keeper some confidence. Allowing that many goals is really worrisome. Another big test next week, Tierney has had Corrigan's number for as long as I can remember. See the NCAA tape for a quick refresher video session.

Has ND ever had a good face off man? It is so frustrating to me. I know they've had good wings, but a true FOGO????
Still confused with Corrigan's late game coaching. ND has possession, in OT, man-up for 30 seconds, after a break in action, and they never really attempt to set up a shot until it's even up....ummm okay....
 

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Has ND ever had a good face off man? It is so frustrating to me. I know they've had good wings, but a true FOGO????
Still confused with Corrigan's late game coaching. ND has possession, in OT, man-up for 30 seconds, after a break in action, and they never really attempt to set up a shot until it's even up....ummm okay....

I was referencing the entire FO game (which includes wings) and yes it all needs work. On a positive note, our athleticism (more transition offense and defense) is more of an asset under the new shot clock. Still need better play from the keeper and LSM position to win away or on a neutral field (I posit Loftus gives ND a 3 goal advantage). On the coaching front, why doesn't Coach A handle more of the in-game tactical adjustments? He seems not to suffer from "analysis paralysis" and doesn't allow his emotions to impact his decision making.
 

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Nice first half...Third not so much...doing everything they can to give this game away.
 

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Overall, the defense played excellent. They were routinely put in bad spots all night and with the exception of the goal with 1 second left in the 3Q they answered the bell as best they could. They were very cohesive and disruptive.

The offense was good for a half and then they started shooting the ball horribly. The opportunities were there, they just failed to capitalize. They also did not take care of the ball well enough and that has already been what bit them once this year (Richmond).

ND needs to improve drastically at ground balls, but overall they showed some really good things in their first month of play. Richmond is starting to seem like a bit of a mirage considering the weather conditions.
 

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Agreed....D played well...The unit really slides and recovers very quickly.
Nice to see the offense with multiple, capable scorers...Second half they did get sloppy and definitely missed some opportunities.
The number of 50/50 balls they don't come up with definitely has to get better. Ya, ground ball drills all week....
Face off unit definitely still has to get better. I don't think that guy from Denver had good stats at all.....and part of getting better involves Loenard taking care of the ball if he does get it.
Still pumped as they took control of that game from the start and never fell behind!
 

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Officiating really turned the game on it’s head. Once a few calls in a row went against ND they stopped getting opportunities... that’s on defense and 50/50 plays to get them possession, but there was about a 10 minute span where I don’t know what you’re supposed to do if you’re Notre Dame. Refs just gave UVA opportunity after opportunity in end 3Q and start of 4Q. After that, ND looked completely gassed and had a lot of self-inflicted mistakes.
 
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