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Call me crazy, but when I heard this news, I went from thinking they were going to lose to Hopkins to thinking they have a legitimate chance to win it all. Don't screw it up Corrigan!

As long as we don't have more "Angry Little Elf" episodes, the keeper shows up and the boys play with energy, we win by 4 goals. The Blue Jays are scared to death of the Irish!
 

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Great first quarter... dominating faceoffs and getting good shots. Helpful that the Hopkins keeper can’t save a shot right now.
 

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As long as we don't have more "Angry Little Elf" episodes, the keeper shows up and the boys play with energy, we win by 4 goals. The Blue Jays are scared to death of the Irish!

As expected the Blue Jays didn't show up on Sunday. They looked very timid/slow going after ground balls. Duke is a different animal: very strong close D. Danowski looked more angry than I've ever seen him after that victory over Richmond. Look for the Blue Devils to play more inspired ball next weekend. As mentioned all year, this may be the ND team to go all of the way. Team intensity, quality of coaching (the right tactical adjustments and personnel decisions) and keeper play (don't hesitate to pull one as you have a proven back up) are the critical must haves of a late run to the title. Let's go Irish!!
 

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Second midfield line shot 5 for 10 last night. They keep getting production like that and they will be very hard to beat.
 

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Second midfield line shot 5 for 10 last night. They keep getting production like that and they will be very hard to beat.

Amen on the 2nd middie production. Depth is a great thing and with our newfound success at the FO X and the shot clock, we can actually run teams down (UVA is very similar in team composition although I like our close D much better than theirs). In the past, the only time we actually ran was when we were behind and pressing (10 man, etc.). We always played best then. Let the boys play hard and fast and hope they can put together 3 more solid wins. Speed, size and good stickwork plus solid D kills.
 

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Good God the Maryland-Virginia game went to overtime when the refs awarded Va a goal on a shot that everyone could see was not a goal (hit the post). Va goes on to win in OT.

Lax has no replay review. In the NCAA's!! Crazy. If that happened to ND..
 

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Corrigan doing ND NO favors...No Garnsey or Mirer until the middle of the quarter and putting Philips on Nakeie is not giving your team the best chance to win. Very lucky to only be down 3 at the end of the first.
 

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Corrigan doing ND NO favors...No Garnsey or Mirer until the middle of the quarter and putting Philips on Nakeie is not giving your team the best chance to win. Very lucky to only be down 3 at the end of the first.

Great effort by the boys. Bad play design with 12 sec left. Horrible footwork by keeper all day. Moving just your hands doesn't make you a starting goalie (except at ND these past two years). That last shot was a change up. Move your feet and its an easy save. Coaches, take a bow, this one is on you. This was the last hurrah with Garnsey and Gleebo et al. Great four years men.
 

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Nice job not sliding to a dodge from X against a freshman shortie with 5 seconds left on the shot clock. Bold strategy in OT of a quarterfinal game.....
 

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Nice job not sliding to a dodge from X against a freshman shortie with 5 seconds left on the shot clock. Bold strategy in OT of a quarterfinal game.....

Absolutely unbelievable! SO frustrated! Most likely selling my 50 yard line tickets if anyone is intereseted.
 

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Great effort by the boys. Bad play design with 12 sec left. Horrible footwork by keeper all day. Moving just your hands doesn't make you a starting goalie (except at ND these past two years). That last shot was a change up. Move your feet and its an easy save. Coaches, take a bow, this one is on you. This was the last hurrah with Garnsey and Gleebo et al. Great four years men.

So unfortunate....once Garnsey came back, I felt like this was going to be their year....Now, I just feel certain that they will never win it with Corrigan as their head coach.
 

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Disappointing end to the season and the paucity of AA awards reflect it. I hate to see this much potential wasted. We have another 5-8 years of status quo to look forward to. Great degree and even better brotherhood but significant perennial under performance on the field.
 

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Disappointing end to the season and the paucity of AA awards reflect it. I hate to see this much potential wasted. We have another 5-8 years of status quo to look forward to. Great degree and even better brotherhood but significant perennial under performance on the field.[/QUOTE

Do you seriously think Corrigan stays on board that much longer?
 

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Disappointing end to the season and the paucity of AA awards reflect it. I hate to see this much potential wasted. We have another 5-8 years of status quo to look forward to. Great degree and even better brotherhood but significant perennial under performance on the field.[/QUOTE

Do you seriously think Corrigan stays on board that much longer?

Given the developments this past weekend, here's a "what if" scenario to ponder for the Irish faithful: I posit that if UVA hires KC as HC when they relieved Dom and Lars et al comes to South Bend, Notre Dame wins a national championship yesterday. I know folks believe GB was the heir apparent but let's just assume the AD actually interviewed and chose the best and brightest candidate and decided to hire a coaching staff who implemented an up tempo O and a pressure D.

What you have in South Bend are offensive and defensive schemes which are not taking advantage of the athleticism and stick work of the personnel that are there now and have been there for the past 10 years. KC implemented the origins of the current ND schemes when he wasn't getting enough blue chip players. Those days are long gone. What we have in South Bend are two generals whose claim to fame schematically is lacrosse's version of the Maginot Line.

KC is there until he's well past the normal retirement age so yes 5-8 years is a realistic range. Unless he has two successive years with a losing record, that's the time frame.
 
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Been traveling, here are some thoughts:
-I was rooting hard for Penn State because my brother played there. It's insane to me that they go put in position to rematch the only team that could beat them with "kryptonite" at the faceoff dot. This tournament will be one of the great "what ifs" because 2/3/4 Duke, UVA, Penn could've been any order. They chose to make it rubber match games in the quarterfinals... which were compelling lacrosse... but not necessarily ideal when looking forward to the final four. If you played the semis in any other combination I have little doubt PSU is the champ, but what we got was classic rock-paper-scissors with favorable matchups.
-The Yale vs UVA final was the two least deserving teams to be there since...? Yale cheated with a transfer who was only eligible because of lacrosse's gentlemen's agreement on transfer eligibility out of conference, and everyone saw how UVA got gifted their semifinal birth. It's also absurd to me that a haughty Ivy League school would take someone with three years at Albany and confer a Yale degree on him like it ain't no thang... this happened in the same conference that disallows athletic scholarships and grad transfers. A school that is supposed to be top 5 in academics in the whole world has less stringent academic requirements for a lacrosse transfer than Notre Dame does for undergrad football transfers. What a time to be alive.
-UVA, specifically, had the luckiest season I have ever seen barred none.
-I'm convinced that Notre Dame has missed their window unless they do a Brian Kelly 2017 style rebuild. The defensive talent is wayyyyyyyyyy down from Sexton/Glazener/Epple/Landis. That's just a fact, I didn't realize at the time just how talented those players were. Plus the SSDMs are not what they once were, and our goalie finished outside the top 50 in save percentage. They need to take a long look in the mirror and figure something out because the "recipe" isn't working how it used to.
-I'll give credit where credit is due, the offense was way more balanced than it has been in years past and carried this team in their wins... crazy to think what they could've looked like with Garnsey for a whole year. It will NOT be easy to replace him and Gleason. The overall talent in the midfield next year will be scary though.
-Can't wait to see what Leonard does next year.
-The shot clock was a breath of fresh air. It greatly improved the product on the field in the NCAA, and coaching with it in HS it was apparent that it rewards good defense and punishes slow substitution patterns.
 

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Been traveling, here are some thoughts:
-I was rooting hard for Penn State because my brother played there. It's insane to me that they go put in position to rematch the only team that could beat them with "kryptonite" at the faceoff dot. This tournament will be one of the great "what ifs" because 2/3/4 Duke, UVA, Penn could've been any order. They chose to make it rubber match games in the quarterfinals... which were compelling lacrosse... but not necessarily ideal when looking forward to the final four. If you played the semis in any other combination I have little doubt PSU is the champ, but what we got was classic rock-paper-scissors with favorable matchups.
-The Yale vs UVA final was the two least deserving teams to be there since...? Yale cheated with a transfer who was only eligible because of lacrosse's gentlemen's agreement on transfer eligibility out of conference, and everyone saw how UVA got gifted their semifinal birth. It's also absurd to me that a haughty Ivy League school would take someone with three years at Albany and confer a Yale degree on him like it ain't no thang... this happened in the same conference that disallows athletic scholarships and grad transfers. A school that is supposed to be top 5 in academics in the whole world has less stringent academic requirements for a lacrosse transfer than Notre Dame does for undergrad football transfers. What a time to be alive.
-UVA, specifically, had the luckiest season I have ever seen barred none.
-I'm convinced that Notre Dame has missed their window unless they do a Brian Kelly 2017 style rebuild. The defensive talent is wayyyyyyyyyy down from Sexton/Glazener/Epple/Landis. That's just a fact, I didn't realize at the time just how talented those players were. Plus the SSDMs are not what they once were, and our goalie finished outside the top 50 in save percentage. They need to take a long look in the mirror and figure something out because the "recipe" isn't working how it used to.
-I'll give credit where credit is due, the offense was way more balanced than it has been in years past and carried this team in their wins... crazy to think what they could've looked like with Garnsey for a whole year. It will NOT be easy to replace him and Gleason. The overall talent in the midfield next year will be scary though.
-Can't wait to see what Leonard does next year.
-The shot clock was a breath of fresh air. It greatly improved the product on the field in the NCAA, and coaching with it in HS it was apparent that it rewards good defense and punishes slow substitution patterns.

UVA.. So lucky...Don't forget that inexusable turnover Duke had with like a minute left..
The talent of Sexton/Glazener/Epple/Landis...The Redwoods totally agree with you...
Look in the mirror??? I just don't see it...I feel like they are content with where they are.
Shot clock made this game so much more exciting! Now do something about the faceoffs...Move the wings in to get them in the mix more easily.
 

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Sounds like Gerry Byrne could be headed elsewhere this offseason if the situation/pay is right. All of his kids are out of school, and it doesn’t look like Corrigan is stepping down any time soon, so the only thing that would hold him in South Bend would hypothetically be his wife’s professional roots. Interested to see if he makes the jump, I think he would be a great HC.
 

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Sounds like Gerry Byrne could be headed elsewhere this offseason if the situation/pay is right. All of his kids are out of school, and it doesn’t look like Corrigan is stepping down any time soon, so the only thing that would hold him in South Bend would hypothetically be his wife’s professional roots. Interested to see if he makes the jump, I think he would be a great HC.

I hope Corrigan would go outside the program to replace him, and doubt he will.
 

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Sounds like Gerry Byrne could be headed elsewhere this offseason if the situation/pay is right. All of his kids are out of school, and it doesn’t look like Corrigan is stepping down any time soon, so the only thing that would hold him in South Bend would hypothetically be his wife’s professional roots. Interested to see if he makes the jump, I think he would be a great HC.

I don't believe GB is going anywhere. He's got a great gig in SB where his wife has a successful practice and he has little or no real pressure from the School/AD to win a NC. While his first foray into being a HC was not successful, he's probably better prepared to be a head coach now. See Bill Bellichick or Nick Saban's forays before they become the GOAT HCs. If I'm the hiring AD, I'm asking myself, does this guy have the fire in the belly and ambition to wear the crown and be the HC? Some folks are content to be coordinators and my response is (per Clint), a man has to know his limitations.
 

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Sounds like Gerry Byrne could be headed elsewhere this offseason if the situation/pay is right. All of his kids are out of school, and it doesn’t look like Corrigan is stepping down any time soon, so the only thing that would hold him in South Bend would hypothetically be his wife’s professional roots. Interested to see if he makes the jump, I think he would be a great HC.

If he goes, I'm hearing it will be Harvard. Bob Scalise the Harvard AD and a former Crimson lax HC, has not done a great job hiring/keeping good coaches. This lacrosse program is a perennial under performer and a lacrosse coach career killer. Caveat Emptor.
 

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It has to kill Harvard watching the success Yale has had of late. GB would seemingly be a good culture fit and certainly has the resume as a coach and player. Plus he’s got some inroads to some elite academic HS programs. Definitely makes sense and seems to be the favorite here.
 

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It has to kill Harvard watching the success Yale has had of late. GB would seemingly be a good culture fit and certainly has the resume as a coach and player. Plus he’s got some inroads to some elite academic HS programs. Definitely makes sense and seems to be the favorite here.

According to an industry rag, CollegeCrosse, "GB's name is slowly becoming less of a favorite to land the Harvard job". A younger grouping of "hot" assistants or HCs have replaced him: Cassese, Kirwan Polley and even a D3 coach, Jon Thompson. Wow even a D3 coach has eclipsed GB in the Harvard HC search. That shocks me in so many ways.
 

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According to an industry rag, CollegeCrosse, "GB's name is slowly becoming less of a favorite to land the Harvard job". A younger grouping of "hot" assistants or HCs have replaced him: Cassese, Kirwan Polley and even a D3 coach, Jon Thompson. Wow even a D3 coach has eclipsed GB in the Harvard HC search. That shocks me in so many ways.

I agree that is surprising...but the youth movement in lacrosse coaching is bound to happen....
 

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According to an industry rag, CollegeCrosse, "GB's name is slowly becoming less of a favorite to land the Harvard job". A younger grouping of "hot" assistants or HCs have replaced him: Cassese, Kirwan Polley and even a D3 coach, Jon Thompson. Wow even a D3 coach has eclipsed GB in the Harvard HC search. That shocks me in so many ways.

Interesting updates for sure. I know Kirwan is a hot name. Im curious about Cassese. Seems like he’s hit the ceiling at Lehigh. Also with Matt Danowski as a candidate for Stony Brook, could be that he’s trying to cut his teeth as a HC before possibly taking over for dad. I know Cassese has long been rumored as the eventual replacement. Pollen would be interesting as he’s done a great job at BU in short order.
 

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Cassese is one of the best in the business IMO. Would be on my list for potential post-Corrigan hires.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Breaking: <a href="https://twitter.com/NDlacrosse?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NDlacrosse</a> defensive coordinator Gerry Byrne informed his Fighting Irish players on Saturday night that he will become the next head coach of <a href="https://twitter.com/HarvardMLax?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HarvardMLax</a>, sources told IL (via <a href="https://twitter.com/tyxanders?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tyxanders</a>): <a href="https://t.co/UvWm5XUetA">https://t.co/UvWm5XUetA</a></p>— Inside Lacrosse (@Inside_Lacrosse) <a href="https://twitter.com/Inside_Lacrosse/status/1145148849910104064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Going to be realllllly interesting to see what ND does here to replace Gerry Byrne. He was an absolute institution in South Bend, and I think the only way his replacement will work out is if he does his own thing and doesn’t try to mimic what was in place.
 
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