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Next Sun forecast is for a high temp of 18 degrees in Green Bay. Hope the Boys can bundle up.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>This cowboy player was offsides all game! Where's the flag? <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet">@RapSheet</a> <a href="http://t.co/j9cehz0MvB">pic.twitter.com/j9cehz0MvB</a></p>— Shaun (@ShaunMichael80) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaunMichael80/status/551904312855887873">January 5, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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PI on Dallas on a throw to Pettigrew I believe. Flag thrown and announced, then moments later announced it was being picked up. Defender never turned his head, there was contact, enough for a legit call, but as a Lions fan it was a no call to me.

EDIT: At that time DET still had the lead and was driving. Picking up the flag made it 4th and 1 and they had to punt.

It was definitely a close call but I don't think there should have been a penalty. While there was some contact, it was as much initiated by Pettigrew as the defender if not more so and the ball hit the defender square in the back.
 

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It was definitely a close call but I don't think there should have been a penalty. While there was some contact, it was as much initiated by Pettigrew as the defender if not more so and the ball hit the defender square in the back.

Close, but no. The ball was under thrown, and pettigrew went back to attempt to catch the ball. The defender's head never turned around and was not playing the ball. Pettigrew has the right to go back to the ball. Contact was made, Therefore pass interference.

Even Mike Pereira thought it should have been called.
 
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It was definitely a close call but I don't think there should have been a penalty. While there was some contact, it was as much initiated by Pettigrew as the defender if not more so and the ball hit the defender square in the back.

Close, but no. The ball was under thrown, and pettigrew went back to attempt to catch the ball. The defender's head never turned around and was not playing the ball. Pettigrew has the right to go back to the ball. Contact was made, Therefore pass interference.

Even Mike Pereira thought it should have been called.

I understand it being called because it was by the book PI. But in a playoff game, and with just a little contact some of which was the defender with his hands up, I understand the no call. My problem is that the flag was thrown, announced, then some time later taken back. Thats BS. I would have understand a straight no call. But the way it went down was iffy. Like hey, why did you throw that. We need the Cowboys to win.
 

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I understand it being called because it was by the book PI. But in a playoff game, and with just a little contact some of which was the defender with his hands up, I understand the no call. My problem is that the flag was thrown, announced, then some time later taken back. Thats BS. I would have understand a straight no call. But the way it went down was iffy. Like hey, why did you throw that. We need the Cowboys to win.

Didn't see it, but it sounds like Dez Bryant ran onto the field without a helmet to complain. Should have been a flag, no?
 
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Didn't see it, but it sounds like Dez Bryant ran onto the field without a helmet to complain. Should have been a flag, no?

Yes, Dez should have been flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct. Between the PI and the unsportsmanlike calls Detroit would've had the ball on the 9 yard line or somewhere thereabouts as Dez' penalty would be tacked on. Instead 4th and 1 and they shank a 10 yard punt. Brutal, season ending swing.
 

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I wanted to write this a hundred different ways. But the facts remain the same...

That play is called defensive pass interference 17 weeks out of the year. And what Dez did, coming onto the field to argue a call with the refs, afterwards is against the rules as well.

Maybe it doesn't change the outcome, maybe it does. But the fact of the matter is, the game was not played to completion in the matter it should have been, by the letter of the law.
 

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I wanted to write this a hundred different ways. But the facts remain the same...

That play is called defensive pass interference 17 weeks out of the year. And what Dez did, coming onto the field to argue a call with the refs, afterwards is against the rules as well.

Maybe it doesn't change the outcome, maybe it does. But the fact of the matter is, the game was not played to completion in the matter it should have been, by the letter of the law.

I agree. But my reason for being OK if the flag was left in the pocket was it looked uncatchable. Under thrown and he was reaching back for it but was falling away from the ball. To me it meant the ref would have changed the game. Dez on the field, I didn't see.

EDIT: And the Lions should have went for it on that 4th and 1. That could have changed the game.
 
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I agree. But my reason for being OK if the flag was left in the pocket was it looked uncatchable. Under thrown and he was reaching back for it but was falling away from the ball. To me it meant the ref would have changed the game. Dez on the field, I didn't see.

I can't find a good video on YouTube, but check this link... Officials Reverse Cowboys' Pass Interference Penalty

It looks quite catchable to me... in fact, it looks like it is about to hit Pettigrew between the numbers.

Just a major missed-correct call by the refs.
 

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Just rewatched and looked at a few still shot. Looks like it would've hit him in the nuts or knees to me like I said, I can understand it being a call, and I'm pissed it was flagged then picked up, but I also can understand it not being called get go.
 
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