Jan 20 | National Championship

[Riddickulous]

Rocco and Baker listed at RG and LT

Baker listed as "or" with Jagusah. Wonder how they handle LT.

 

[Irish du Nord]

Rocco and Baker listed at RG and LT

That Jagusah “or” seems pretty significant

 

[greyhammer90]

That Jagusah “or” seems pretty significant

Even more significant is that Spindler has no "or". It's just Jagusah 2nd string

 

[dankgesang]

This is a good assessment. For whatever we all think about Kelly, his timing at ND couldn't have been worse.

No, no, no. The Mugabe/Zoolander quote applies here strongly.

You could maybe make an argument that 2011-21 was a tough run to actually win a championship, because of the separation each year of one or two superteams from the field. That would take some research that I'm not going to do, lol, but I think it's a moot point anyway.

Like let's say that yes, compared to other 12 year stretches in the history of college football, Kelly's run at ND was rough because those years happened to have more generationally bad hombres at the very top. It would be bad luck, then, if he was putting out teams on the regular that were good enough to win in a "normal" year and kept running into said GBHs. But while the hombres were indeed generationally bad when he met them in the postseason (the Alabama teams that killed him were nightmare people), he was not doing so regularly, and neither were the teams he was putting together good enough to win in a "normal" year.

We're all saying "Oh lucky Marcus, the SEC was in the shitter this year and there was so much parity", well, if this is more like a "normal" year then it's worth noting that BK's 2013 team would have been a 5 point dog to the Georgia team we just beat, and would have gotten 8 from Penn State. And his 2020 team was considerably worse.

He couldn't get over the hump in the regular season, was the proximate issue, and in that frame of reference his timing was frankly a fucking dream. Copying+pasting myself from an earlier post:

Our historical blue blood rivals are USC and UM, the former fired two coaches during his tenure and the latter was mostly a hilarious clown show right up until they weren't, at which point poof they were off the schedule. He missed Paul Johnson at Navy, Harbaugh at Stanford (save one game that doesn't bear discussing), and almost all of Jimbo FSU.

 

[NDPhilly]

That Jagusah “or” seems pretty significant

Yup, wasnt an "or" for the 2nd string OT the last few weeks when Jagusah was healthy.

 

[dublinirish]

good spot yah that is interesting now lol. Hopefully Spindler is effective with his injuries

 

[NDFAN2008]

Back to the officials for this game:
Steve Marlowe averages 12 flags per game with a ton of holding. Called 23 penalties in the Fiesta Bowl. Calls a ton of False Starts, Offensive and Defensive Holding.

 

[DomeFieldAdvantage]

You know, I wonder if we actually go with both of them. Didn't one of the reporters on a podcast mention that Jagusah seemed really exhausted after the game? Maybe he isn't in good enough football shape to go a whole game.

 

[Riddickulous]

good spot yah that is interesting now lol. Hopefully Spindler is effective with his injuries

If he's struggling to go i bet they'll put Jagusah in at RG

 

[KPENN]

Has OSU played a running QB this year?

 

[SDIrishFan]

Has OSU played a running QB this year?

Nothing like Leonard.

 

[thekid33]

Personally, I'd play Jagusah over Tosh, so I'm going to choose to read a lot into the "or"

 

[SDIrishFan]

That Jagusah “or” seems pretty significant

And, remember, ALL "or" depth chart listings this year have been alphabetical.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Back to the officials for this game:
Steve Marlowe averages 12 flags per game with a ton of holding. Called 23 penalties in the Fiesta Bowl. Calls a ton of False Starts, Offensive and Defensive Holding.

As soon as they were announced, the focus was on how many holding calls would be called on ND’s cut & pasted OL.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

I hope Jadarian can get his regular season mojo back for this game. I was critical of him early in the season for dancing too much and taking big losses that killed drives. It appeared he had corrected this later in the season and was running with much more decisiveness.

Outside a few runs against Georgia and Indiana, he's reverted back to early season form. He was downright awful against psu.
With Love dinged up, he's had the opportunity to show out, but hasn't. He's got one more shot on the biggest stage and we absolutely need him....

He loves to bounce it outside. He rarely has success between the tackles. It came in handy vs UGA & IU. PSU’s edge was way too athletic/fast to give him any space & it showed. Be interesting to see how healthy JT Tuiaolmulu (Sp?) ankle is b/c he’ll need help setting the edge if it’s gimpy. I suspect he’ll be a full go even if not 100%. He basically won the game last year vs ND w/ his defending of the screen game.

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

You can't field an OLine without Jagusah in there somewhere.

 

[Dale]

So if Spindler is healthy (enough), the “or” would seem to indicate Jagusah would start at LT in that case IMO

 

[Irish#1]

Bored at work. Rewatching Ohio State vs Penn State. They beat both Texas and Penn State the same way. Goal line stand to prevent a tie game in the 4th. Can’t run inside, can’t run outside, can’t pass over the top in the red zone. Michigan only got through once and had to settle for field goals. However, that one red zone score and subsequent field goals helped them win the game. JETER is going to be a big factor in this game. We need those 3’s. We need to score at least once in the red zone where the others failed.

They are very good inside the five. I thought Sark made a terrible call when they had 1st & goal and followed it up with two more.

 

[dublinirish]

the problem is if Spindler goes down again on say the first drive and you are already starting CJ at LT then what do you do? Try and plug in Pendleton? Not ideal. I would guess the way the staff will go is start Baker and Spindler and then whichever struggles you bench for CJ and hope for the best

 

[SDIrishFan]

So if Spindler is healthy (enough), the “or” would seem to indicate Jagusah would start at LT in that case IMO

My guess is it will be - Jagusah - Shrauth - Coogan - Spindler - Wagner.

IF Rocco gets rehurt or can't go, I think you move Jagusah there, and Baker comes in at LT.

 

[GATTACA!]

They are very good inside the five. I thought Sark made a terrible call when they had 1st & goal and followed it up with two more.

They are historically good inside the 5. They stonewalled PSU up the middle multiple times. That's why Sark tried to go outside.

You have to just go at them in that situation. Take 4 runs right at them and hope your RB makes something happen. Even if you don't succeed you give them the ball at their own 1.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

My guess is it will be - Jagusah - Shrauth - Coogan - Spindler - Wagner.

IF Rocco gets rehurt or can't go, I think you move Jagusah there, and Baker comes in at LT.

How they approach this is going to be pretty significant to their game plan. If Baker is in at LT (and Jagusah at RG) I think you try to leverage Baker's run blocking and are less eager to drop back. If they want to pass then Jagusah at LT/Spindler at RG is the better combination.

 

[greyhammer90]

So if Spindler is healthy (enough), the “or” would seem to indicate Jagusah would start at LT in that case IMO

Big big ask to have Jagusah step into LT at this moment. He'll be a legend as a Sophomore if he does well.

 

[TracyGraham]

My guess is it will be - Jagusah - Shrauth - Coogan - Spindler - Wagner.

IF Rocco gets rehurt or can't go, I think you move Jagusah there, and Baker comes in at LT.

Hope so. This line would be very formidable, imo. Don't really have a ton of faith in Tosh, who was a 3rd stringer behind 2 freshman, against OSU's guys.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Big big ask to have Jagusah step into LT at this moment. He'll be a legend as a Sophomore if he does well.

I would also be a little worried about the fact that tackles have to play more in space and do more lateral reaching. Playing the left side would help some (he injured his right pec/shoulder, IIRC) but OSU will have opportunities to test it.

 

[Irish#1]

That Jagusah “or” seems pretty significant

I'd venture to say Baker gets the start and if he struggles, Jagusah comes in.

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

My guess is it will be - Jagusah - Shrauth - Coogan - Spindler - Wagner.

IF Rocco gets rehurt or can't go, I think you move Jagusah there, and Baker comes in at LT.

This is the way

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

I'd venture to say Baker gets the start and if he struggles, Jagusah comes in.

Jagusah was the best offensive lineman in the game on Thursday. He has to play.

 

[dublinirish]

My guess is it will be - Jagusah - Shrauth - Coogan - Spindler - Wagner.

IF Rocco gets rehurt or can't go, I think you move Jagusah there, and Baker comes in at LT.

so one injury impacts two spots? I doubt that's ideal

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

Rocco and Baker listed at RG and LT

Imo, that means Jags is LT unless he has to play guard.