Indianapolis Colts Football

[Irish2155]

Still not on Brissett. Our best WR couldn't catch two critical balls. Our other wideouts are nonexistent.

Give us Will Fuller and DeAndre Hopkins and that game is a bloodbath.

Our best receiving threat are our tight ends. And personally I think it's Jack Doyle who a couple years ago would have like ten reception games and now spends half our possessions on the sideline.

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Yes sir, I agree. Did Pascal even play yesterday? Good thing Ballard is stocking up draft picks...hopefully he can hit on a play making pass catcher.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

My eye test told me that Jacoby looked nice last night. Kept calm in the pocket on a couple big downs, let the plays develop.
TY let him down on a couple (contested) drops.
His final 3rd down (before the 4th conversion, which he dang near got to) his pass to Pascal was pretty dang good given the amount of time he had to let that develop, with the pressure.
His pocket "presence" is pretty high level, already, imo.

Right now, with our crap WRs, I do wish he'd utilize the TEs even more, ala Andrew Luck style.

Once again, his "stats" won't flash like Lucks, but that's because Frank is playing a completely different game and asking Jacoby to avoid risky throws (very secure with the ball).

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Give us Will Fuller and DeAndre Hopkins and that game is a bloodbath.


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And Marlon

 

[Irish#1]

My eye test told me that Jacoby looked nice last night. Kept calm in the pocket on a couple big downs, let the plays develop.
TY let him down on a couple (contested) drops.
His final 3rd down (before the 4th conversion, which he dang near got to) his pass to Pascal was pretty dang good given the amount of time he had to let that develop, with the pressure.
His pocket "presence" is pretty high level, already, imo.

Right now, with our crap WRs, I do wish he'd utilize the TEs even more, ala Andrew Luck style.

Once again, his "stats" won't flash like Lucks, but that's because Frank is playing a completely different game and asking Jacoby to avoid risky throws (very secure with the ball).

Staying calm in the pocket has never been JB's problem. No doubt our receivers leave a lot to be desired, but he had quite a few throws last night that were pretty bad. If you read previous posts, I've been a supporter of Brissett, but he wasn't very good last night IMO.

Q had a couple of nice blocks where he took care of his man and saw someone coming free off the edge and took care of them.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Staying calm in the pocket has never been JB's problem. No doubt our receivers leave a lot to be desired, but he had quite a few throws last night that were pretty bad. If you read previous posts, I've been a supporter of Brissett, but he wasn't very good last night IMO.

Q had a couple of nice blocks where he took care of his man and saw someone coming free off the edge and took care of them.

Again, both of those tosses (drops) to TY were money throws. Add those to his stats and his completion percentage/yards improve a good bit and he get's his W (possibly).

(That first drop by TY had a chance for a TD, his defender fell down on the PB attempt and TY had a few yards before the sideline, so if he pumps the breaks quick enough he could have cut upfield for a 70ish yard TD).

 

[Irish2155]

What about the late fumble that the Colts were hosed on? Texans even called a timeout and it still wasn't looked at. That ball was clearly out.

Not that it should have came to that but WTF?!?! At least take a look for fuck sake.

 

[Irish YJ]

My eye test told me that Jacoby looked nice last night. Kept calm in the pocket on a couple big downs, let the plays develop.
TY let him down on a couple (contested) drops.
His final 3rd down (before the 4th conversion, which he dang near got to) his pass to Pascal was pretty dang good given the amount of time he had to let that develop, with the pressure.
His pocket "presence" is pretty high level, already, imo.

Right now, with our crap WRs, I do wish he'd utilize the TEs even more, ala Andrew Luck style.

Once again, his "stats" won't flash like Lucks, but that's because Frank is playing a completely different game and asking Jacoby to avoid risky throws (very secure with the ball).

I have to disagree on most of this. TY didn't let him down. While TY had a chance on both, on the first (crossing pattern) JB's throw was late and bad. TY had to slow which let the DB catch up to him. Had JB led him, that's an easy reception. On the later throw to the right sideline, Doyle was very much wide open and should have got the pass to move the chains.

We returned almost 85% of last year's "receiving" production, which Luck made the #6 receiving unit last year and included Lucks top 4 options (YPG). In addition, we got a healthy Doyle back who was the #2 receiving option in 2017.

I agree our WR is not the most dynamic, but one can not dismiss the regression with most of the same guys. Losing Inman and Grant doesn't take the #6 unit and make them the 25th ish... The QB does. And while his "pocket presence" may be good, his vision is horrible and he struggles through progression. His high time to throw is one of the worst in the NFL (which also adds stress to the OL).

My eye test, and the stat test, both align, and it's just not very good.

Still not on Brissett. Our best WR couldn't catch two critical balls. Our other wideouts are nonexistent.

Give us Will Fuller and DeAndre Hopkins and that game is a bloodbath.

Our best receiving threat are our tight ends. And personally I think it's Jack Doyle who a couple years ago would have like ten reception games and now spends half our possessions on the sideline.

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I put it 50% on Reich, 50% on JB.
If I told you before the game:

1) we would out rush Houston and have a 100 yard rusher, and
2) shut down Houston's running game again, keeping them under 100, and
3) limit Watson to less yards than he had in game 1, and
4) win the turnover battle, and time of possession, and
5) limit their points to under 21

You would absolutely think we won.

Sure we might have won with Hopkins and Fuller. We would have also have won with Watson and our existing receiving unit.... We had guys open all night and JB still forced a lot and made passes...... , and didn't see wide open guys which has been an issue all year. It was so bad a couple times the announcers even called it out.

On Reich... we won game 1 with a 40ish to 25ish pass to rush game plan. In game two, we lost with the exact opposite (25ish passes, 40ish rushes) game plan. How can you not throw more against one of the worst passing Ds in the league, especially when one of their best is out, and a few more are hobbled.

While he's great on TD/INT ratio, almost every other mainstream stat is at the median or below. Some substantially below.

 

[Irish2155]

What happened on controversial Texans' fourth-quarter fumble vs. Colts?

Speak of the devil...flipped to Yahoo and there it is sitting as the top story. The read goes on to explain there was no clear recovery, but how can you see that without a review? And why did the official blow the play dead when the ball was loose...get in there and see who has it!?!?

Again, not saying that is the reason Indy lost. Odds are Vinny would have missed a game tying kick anyways. I am confused however on how the officials handled it.

 

[SouthernIndianaNDFan]

You've got to be kidding me, there can't be anyone left that thinks JB is the longterm answer for the Colts...right? He has been average, at best, this year.

People wanna blame the WRs, but Andrew Luck won Comeback Player of the Year with a really similar set of weapons. Jacoby Brissett juat is not good at going thru his progressions or finding open guys, the All 22 from that game is gonna be a nightmare, wide open guys getting missed everywhere. I saw 4-5 plays where guys were wide open, and either A)Jacoby completely didn't see them or B)He made the read WAY too late.

Look, I'd love to sit here and tell you that I'm thankful that Brissett was there to be a stopgap after Luck retired, but I'm not, because in reality all he's done is make a good/great team (with a legit QB under center) look mediocre. They're just good enough to miss out on guys like Burrow, Herbert, and Tua but not good enough to make the playoffs.

 

[SouthernIndianaNDFan]

He's averaged 167 yards, 0.8 TD's, and 0.45 INT's the last 6 games, that's pathetic when Luck damn near won league MVP with a similar cast of guys. JB is a top-tier backup, nothing more.

The good news is that Ballard has had his top scouts watching QB's all year, he's no fool. They will without a doubt be taking a quarterback, only question is who.

 

[Irish2155]

Just wow. I kind of feel bad for Vinny at this point.

Jacoby is playing another crap game too.

 

[greyhammer90]

 

[Sea Turtle]

Yuck

 

[Irish YJ]

I'm so done with Brissett and AV.

10 points off INTs
7 points off special teams (FG block)
1 for 4 on FGs. Some were long but at least give me 50%

JB hasn't shown any improvement over the course of the season IMO on the most basic kind of stuff.

 

[Sea Turtle]

I'm so done with Brissett and AV.

10 points off INTs
7 points off special teams (FG block)
1 for 4 on FGs. Some were long but at least give me 50%

JB hasn't shown any improvement over the course of the season IMO on the most basic kind of stuff.

AV is done with Colts after the season. I can see a team signing him though if he wants a shot at Blandas record.

Id give JB one more season. He has improved his accuracy. Now he has to read things faster and get another receiver imo.

 

[Irish2155]

AV is done with Colts after the season. I can see a team signing him though if he wants a shot at Blandas record.

Id give JB one more season. He has improved his accuracy. Now he has to read things faster and get another receiver imo.

I don’t know why any team would want to sign AV next year.

Jacoby will be the guy until Ballard finds his replacement. Hopefully Tua slides in the draft.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

Honestly, I think Jacoby is still hurt, is probably 50% or less. I think they should sit him for a few weeks and see what chad kelly can do.

The other part people are missing is how many starters are out. It’s just not their year.

 

[Irish YJ]

AV is done with Colts after the season. I can see a team signing him though if he wants a shot at Blandas record.

Id give JB one more season. He has improved his accuracy. Now he has to read things faster and get another receiver imo.

I don't think his accuracy is noticeably better. He's still not leading his passes. He's still not reading Ds or seeing easy blitz tells, doesn't anticipate and lacks timing, and has high time to throw yet still can't get through progressions. Some of those things just don't get better in an off season. They're all things he's struggled with since college.

 

[Irish#1]

AV is done with Colts after the season. I can see a team signing him though if he wants a shot at Blandas record.

Id give JB one more season. He has improved his accuracy. Now he has to read things faster and get another receiver imo.

AV may be done, period. They've signed a kicker off the 49'ers PS. Word is Colts are saying he's injured. Translation = not as embarrassing as getting cut during the season. He finishes on the injured list, then announces his retirement after the season.

 

[Irish YJ]

AV may be done, period. They've signed a kicker off the 49'ers PS. Word is Colts are saying he's injured. Translation = not as embarrassing as getting cut during the season. He finishes on the injured list, then announces his retirement after the season.

I'm glad we picked up the K (because he's good), but the horses are already out of the barn for the year. I'd let AV go for the record, especially if we lose this weekend. We're only like 7-10% chance for the playoffs, and go to less than 5 if we lose to TB. If we win the next two, I think we climb to about 50% (without projecting others). I think we lose both though lol.

 

[Irish#1]

I'm glad we picked up the K (because he's good), but the horses are already out of the barn for the year. I'd let AV go for the record, especially if we lose this weekend. We're only like 7-10% chance for the playoffs, and go to less than 5 if we lose to TB. If we win the next two, I think we climb to about 50% (without projecting others). I think we lose both though lol.

You know how Irsay is. Very loyal to those guys that have a history with the Colts and waits until it is absolutely necessary to make the tough decision (Manning, Wayne).

 

[Irish2155]

Darius Leonard have a day!!!

 

[Irish YJ]

Mixed bag so far. D giving up 21 but also giving us two turnovers and a P6.

O is up and down.

I'll take it though. I think the D will be better in the second half. Not sure about the O.

 

[Irish2155]

I like how they’re airing it out today.

 

[Irish2155]

Denver putting it on Houston right now. Did Watson get hurt or something?

 

[BeauBenken]

Going to find a way to lose this.

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[Irish2155]

Going to find a way to lose this.

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Per usual. This team just refuses to finish. Let’s see if Jacoby can lead a game winner here. Another missed kick too.

 

[Irish2155]

Bummer...this one stings. There goes all playoff hopes. The fumble in the red zone was huge. Won the TO battle by 3 too and still couldn’t get it done.

 

[Irish YJ]

This one sucks. Especially with Houston dropping one. How we didn't do better vs the 2nd worst passing D I don't know. Meanwhile, Winston who has 3 INTs puts up almost 500 yards...

I hope we lose the rest to improve our draft position...

Time to look forward to the draft...

 

[Irish#1]

This team just isn't any good. I get the injuries are killing us and the team is playing hard, but I'm starting to wonder more and more about Reich.

It seems every week he has these WTF moments. At the end of the first half with time almost gone, instead of kicking the FG he goes for it on fourth down, gets the first down then kicks the FG from 1 yard closer on the next play. WTH was that all about? Even the announcers were scratching their heads. TB is shutting down the outside runs and he keeps calling runs to the outside where we had some success up the middle. Not great but better results than going outside. His play calling on 4th and short is highly questionable. Need two yards? Let's call a 20 yard pass against the boundary when your best receiver is in street clothes. He did the same thing last week. Teams make halftime adjustments against our O and it stalls. Happens every week.

I did like that he finally called some deep passes for a change.

Leonard is a stud.