In Comes The Media

[phork]

Pretty telling article:

Charlie Weis is done after an unforgivable loss | FanNation

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

Pretty telling article:

Charlie Weis is done after an unforgivable loss | FanNation

Whatever. One more year.

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

CW left the door opened. These are fair statements for the media to make.

 

[Timugen]

Stick a fork in him.

The buyout will miraculously become much more manageable.


Help save us, Regis.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

...

 

[phork]

No more years.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

CW left the door opened. These are fair statements for the media to make.

Agree. I still say one more year.

 

[leprechaun4life]

If he stays one more year, the students here will be extremely angry.

This team is no better than they were last year. We won three more games bc we played shittier teams. Thats a coaching problem. We almost lost to Navy bc we went too conservative too early. Thats a coaching error. We lost to Pitt and UNC bc we were way too soft in the second half. That is a coaching error. The reason this team is flat is bc of Weis' personality. If you go to a pep rally, you will know exactly what I'm talking about. Weis has to go. And I was a huge Weis fan at the beginning of the year too

 

[ACamp1900]

If he stays one more year, the students here will be extremely angry.

This team is no better than they were last year. We won three more games bc we played shittier teams. Thats a coaching problem. We almost lost to Navy bc we went too conservative too early. Thats a coaching error. We lost to Pitt and UNC bc we were way too soft in the second half. That is a coaching error. The reason this team is flat is bc of Weis' personality. If you go to a pep rally, you will know exactly what I'm talking about. Weis has to go. And I was a huge Weis fan at the beginning of the year too

we are not where we should be but that is totally false... we made MAJOR stride this year, last year Pitt, UNC and others woulod have creamed us... this year we should have beat them... now should of is NOT getting it done and NOT good enough I am with you, but saying we haven't improved is way off

 

[leprechaun4life]

No I get your point, we have improved, but all in all we are pretty much the same team. I think the only reason we have played any better is just experience the players have gained through getting another year under their belts and just raw talent from incoming freshmen. When I say the team isnt any better I mean from a coaching standpoint.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

I am not sure you guys understand the reality of a young team starting from scratch learning from hard knocks. If the student body is pissed, believe me, these guys will rise. With fury.

 

[BDIrish4ever]

I'm too emotionally destroyed by this loss to say whether he should be fired or not. CW is not getting the job done and I can't see any quality, experienced head coach taking the ND head job.

 

[phork]

Neutered: Duke has won 6 games in the last 8 years. Last I checked they won 4 this year, over I think 0 last year. Weis, needs to go.

 

[ACamp1900]

No I get your point, we have improved, but all in all we are pretty much the same team. I think the only reason we have played any better is just experience the players have gained through getting another year under their belts and just raw talent from incoming freshmen. When I say the team isnt any better I mean from a coaching standpoint.

with that I TOTALLY agree.. in fact I feel a good case can be made that (in no small part becasue of the horrible Tenuta hire) the coaching has gotten worse

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

Neutered: Duke has won 6 games in the last 8 years. Last I checked they won 4 this year, over I think 0 last year. Weis, needs to go.

I was never a fan of CW my friend. But I think this team will win some games next year. No Kool-Aid. I predicted 5 wins this year based on my super-hyper-extremely-genius (dummy) experience with the game of football. They won one more than I thought they would. Maybe my low prediction is because I did not think Charlie was ready. I think he is learning.

Who knows. I am actually emotionally numb. I can't imagine how I would feel if I had watched the entire game. I am telling you guys, God has protected me from witnessing these losses (slept through 3 of them...). God said "You have had enough. Rest through this."

 

[elkona]

I am not sure you guys understand the reality of a young team starting from scratch learning from hard knocks. If the student body is pissed, believe me, these guys will rise. With fury.

Charlie: Get off the message boards and get back to work!

 

[wahoo]

I just looked at next year's schedule.....we open against Nevada...a team with a pretty good running attack....and what CAN'T we do?????.....stop the run!

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

Charlie: Get off the message boards and get back to work!

LOL. I have never been a Charlie fan, but he won games pretty quickly. This game actually physically hurt me.

I am hurting and about to get hurt a bit more in a few minutes. I think I can garner enough support to ease the pain.

But when I come back to this forum, I will call you a pansie and threaten your puppy.

We need to regroup and keep it together.

That's all.

We know what we have to do tomorrow. We have the champions to get it done.

Bye. I need to step into the fire for minute.

 

[IrishChris209]

Maybe New England needs an offensive cord. I have stood by him for a loooooong time and now he HAS TO GO !!!! 20 point favorites and Senior day and he can score more than 23 ? I thought he was an OFFENSIVE GENIUS?

 

[Timugen]

When will all the domer-goggled ones stop the rationalization!?!?!?!?!?!?!

What the hell does it take to wake up and acknowledge the reality that has been slapping you in the face for the past TWO YEARS?


WE

JUST

LOST

TO

SYRACUSE.




And [NAME REDACTED] just put himself in the record book yet again. First time EVER that we have lost 14 games in a 2 year span. Way to go.

Remind me again how easy this schedule this year was supposed to be (AND ACTUALLY IS.)

What's our record?

How did we do against that powerhouse SDSU? (Take a look at their record now, if you haven't done so, and you'll see how telling that first game was.)

Navy game.....I need say no more.

Something is SERIOUSLY WRONG with this team, and it isn't lack of talent. It's time for everyone to stop being so damn defensive and acknowledge what is actually happening on the field.

 

[johnnd05]

Timugen!!!!!! Dude, please be our new AD.

 

[Timugen]

Timugen!!!!!! Dude, please be our new AD.

I wish.

But if there's one positive to be pulled out of this Saturday, it's seeing you back on the board, john.

 

[phork]

First time ND has lost to an 8 loss team as well... Another dubious distinction.

 

[Master Guns]

Agree. I still say one more year.

This is a quote off a blog about the situation with CW. Thought it was well said:

Weis does seem better suited to the NFL and ND is about to finish in disarray for the second straight season, but I'm not so sure Charlie doesn't get another shot next year.

One- There's a matter of a $20 million buyout. Two- He's apparently very successful at bringing in talent. Three- I'm not sure Weis has proven beyond a doubt that he's incapable of changing his ways and assistants to better develop all that talent. Four- There's nothing "inevitable" about a USC/ND game that hasn't been played yet. Sometimes they end the way you expect, but just as often they don't.

 

[midwestguy]

This is a quote off a blog about the situation with CW. Thought it was well said:

Weis does seem better suited to the NFL and ND is about to finish in disarray for the second straight season, but I'm not so sure Charlie doesn't get another shot next year.

One- There's a matter of a $20 million buyout. Two- He's apparently very successful at bringing in talent. Three- I'm not sure Weis has proven beyond a doubt that he's incapable of changing his ways and assistants to better develop all that talent. Four- There's nothing "inevitable" about a USC/ND game that hasn't been played yet. Sometimes they end the way you expect, but just as often they don't.

I was with you until Two, Three, & Four.

 

[kmoose]

When I say the team isnt any better I mean from a coaching standpoint.

So you think Golden Tate turned into a legitimate receiver all by himself? Maybe he played a bunch of XBOX 360, and learned how to run real routes, other than the fly pattern? You think the defense playing better (certainly not great, but much better than last year) doesn't have anything to do with coaching? I'm just as disappointed as anyone else, but to say that there has been NO coaching going on is just angry talk. It's just not true.

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

The key to firing Weis is this...

Who will replace him?

If we can FIRMLY answer that question THEN we can fire him.

 

[phgreek]

So you think Golden Tate turned into a legitimate receiver all by himself? Maybe he played a bunch of XBOX 360, and learned how to run real routes, other than the fly pattern? You think the defense playing better (certainly not great, but much better than last year) doesn't have anything to do with coaching? I'm just as disappointed as anyone else, but to say that there has been NO coaching going on is just angry talk. It's just not true.

indeed some coaching...is it on par with even the lowest of expectations...is it on par with the price tag of this coaching staff...

So "NO" is really just recognizing failure...semantics to me

 

[BeatSC]

First time ND has lost to an 8 loss team as well... Another dubious distinction.

I was going to ask that question. Soon to be a 9 loss team an oh BTW at home with a 13 point lead/. Charlie finds ways to lose instead of win.

 

[fortwayne_nd]

The key to firing Weis is this...

Who will replace him?

If we can FIRMLY answer that question THEN we can fire him.

Great point. Firing Ty without a firm plan for a replacement was dumb. Same with the long-term extension for CW. Funny, both of those moves can be attributed to the same AD.