Immigration

[drayer54]

I just feel there's too many hot takes going around from a certain subset of Americans lying that ICE agents are basically glorified bounty hunters and not LEO and sadly today and the Renee Goode situation are the outcomes.

I agree we need to get illegal immigrants out, but I also agree (as the product of immigrants) that our process now may need adjusted.

Personally I love every American, even the thousands born around the world today that just haven't come home yet.

Ban sanctuary cities and this gets much cleaner. Honor ICE detainers. Use police to keep boundaries during dangerous arrests. This is out of hand because Minnesota politicians are throwing gas on the fire and want this chaos. If there was one thing obvious to me when I was in Minneapolis STP earlier this week- both sides are pissed at the police for not being engaged. Most feel MPD is sipping coffee and hiding, which is somewhat understandable,I guess.

 

[GATTACA!]

Ban sanctuary cities and this gets much cleaner. Honor ICE detainers. Use police to keep boundaries during dangerous arrests. This is out of hand because Minnesota politicians are throwing gas on the fire and want this chaos. If there was one thing obvious to me when I was in Minneapolis STP earlier this week- both sides are pissed at the police for not being engaged. Most feel MPD is sipping coffee and hiding, which is somewhat understandable,I guess.

The president lying about an ice officers
being run over and his midget border tsar lying about officers being approached by a guy wielding a gun are far more inflammatory.

Also get the fuck out of states that don’t want you there. If this is such a net negative let the dem states suffer and go clean out your red states. They should have no problem with these raids and will reap whatever benefits you think these deportations will provide. Texas and Florida are 2nd and 3rd in illegal immigration population, where are their raids? Minnesota is 25th.

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

Ban sanctuary cities and this gets much cleaner. Honor ICE detainers. Use police to keep boundaries during dangerous arrests. This is out of hand because Minnesota politicians are throwing gas on the fire and want this chaos. If there was one thing obvious to me when I was in Minneapolis STP earlier this week- both sides are pissed at the police for not being engaged. Most feel MPD is sipping coffee and hiding, which is somewhat understandable,I guess.

I'll agree with that 100%.
But it's not just sanctuary cities.
Take a look at blue sky or liberal x and they act like ICE is basically Dog the Bounty Hunter.

Tell "legal observers" who are already so far left leaning they are lying on the ground that and we get them acting like this.

Then Minnesota politicians are begging for anything to take the attention of the Somali fraud and we end up with this.

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

The president lying about an ice officers
being run over and his midget border tsar lying about officers being approached by a guy wielding a gun are far more inflammatory.

Dude we literally saw a video showing she actually hit him.
Hell her wife literally said "drive baby drive" knowing he was in front

Do you also believe Rittenhouse shot 3 black men?

Both sides can be wrong on different acts.

Today to my untrained eye it looks like he was killed unfairly based on the single video I will watch.

I watched the ICE officer video and it was different to my eyes.

 

[GATTACA!]

Dude we literally saw a video showing she actually hit him.
Hell her wife literally said "drive baby drive" knowing he was in front

Do you also believe Rittenhouse shot 3 black men?

Both sides can be wrong on different acts.

Today to my untrained eye it looks like he was killed unfairly based on the single video I will watch.

I watched the ICE officer video and it was different to my eyes.

I’m talking about Trump’s characterization of the event. Even if you think she hit him, which I think is debatable based on the video from the reverse angle, she at worse grazed him. There’s no world where you can say she “ran him over” and saying he was in critical condition with internal bleeding is a straight up lie. The president posted that to his own social media and his retarded followers just believe it because they believe everything he says.

 

[ozzman]

NY Times Pitchbot (@nytpitchbot.bsky.social)

ICE is executing protesters the right way. by Ezra Klein

bsky.app

 

[drayer54]

Also get the fuck out of states that don’t want you there.

Hell no. Minnesota in particular has demonstrated it is incapable of competent governance. Federal law is not just a thing wherever they voted for the President. The people of Eagle Pass got overrun for four years under Biden and dems did not care for a second. Just because the people of Minnesota are awful and can't behave, doesn't mean the feds should just abandon it. State sovereignty is a worthy discussion in many areas, but what the democrats did to this country in terms of the deliberate border invasion and wide scale fraud is unforgivable and this administration should at no point tap the brakes in fixing the mess they made. That mess is being felt everywhere and Minnesota needs cleaned up. Also, it shouldn't be lost that ICE is yanking bad people off the streets. The weird dem desire to protect illegal criminals is not something that should be yielded to.

“We can’t enforce federal law because criminals and their supporters will get violent if we do” is a mainstream left-wing position that would have been universally considered insane like 5 years ago.

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

I’m talking about Trump’s characterization of the event. Even if you think she hit him, which I think is debatable based on the video from the reverse angle, she at worse grazed him. There’s no world where you can say she “ran him over” and saying he was in critical condition with internal bleeding is a straight up lie. The president posted that to his own social media and his retarded followers just believe it because they believe everything he says.

It's already been decided though in the courts.
A vehicle is considered a deadly weapon.
Even if she just "grazed" him she drove a deadly weapon at him.

Totally different situation that today where a simp was killed for simply being a simp.

 

[drayer54]

I’m talking about Trump’s characterization of the event. Even if you think she hit him, which I think is debatable based on the video from the reverse angle, she at worse grazed him. There’s no world where you can say she “ran him over” and saying he was in critical condition with internal bleeding is a straight up lie. The president posted that to his own social media and his retarded followers just believe it because they believe everything he says.

I recognize in the era of Justice Jackson that the law means nothing to some, but it needs not be battery to be assault, a vehicle is without question a deadly weapon, and her actions without question put him in the position of self-defense. It was not his responsibility to be victim, again, to a criminal.

 

[TorontoGold]

Oh Toronto I've been saying you're an alt since March 2024.
This isn't new from me.
I believe the last time I engaged you it was over the Baltimore bridge disaster.

That’s great, an alt account of which admin?

I don’t remember you at all. I’m guessing it was a really positive interaction.

 

[GATTACA!]

It's already been decided though in the courts.
A vehicle is considered a deadly weapon.
Even if she just "grazed" him she drove a deadly weapon at him.

Totally different situation that today where a simp was killed for simply being a simp.

That’s not the point of my comment. She did not “run him over” he didn’t have internal bleeding and he wasn’t in critical condition.

Bishop wants to come on here and argue with posters about their statements on weather she hit him or not but could care less about the president lying about it just as egregiously to an audience of millions.

 

[Sea Turtle]

This

The president lying about an ice officers
being run over and his midget border tsar lying about officers being approached by a guy wielding a gun are far more inflammatory.

Also get the fuck out of states that don’t want you there. If this is such a net negative let the dem states suffer and go clean out your red states. They should have no problem with these raids and will reap whatever benefits you think these deportations will provide. Texas and Florida are 2nd and 3rd in illegal immigration population, where are their raids? Minnesota is 25th.

Raids are happening all over the country, GATTACA. And protests are happening all over the country. Someone was even killed by ICE in Chicago.

But state officials didnt let it get completely out of control in other states. To the contrary, these state officials are whipping their populations into a frenzy. Creating a 'we/they' seige mentality. Actively encourage residents to combat Federal law enforcement. And people are getting killed. All to distract from their own serious legal problems

Two things can be true even if you are anti-ice, GATTACA. ICE can be using over zealous methods and Minneapolis can be bat shit crazy out of control. BTW - I've noticed that these people are using whistles to alert the area and populace when ICE is near. Do you know who else used whistles to alert people of the presence of certain people?

 

[GATTACA!]

Hell no. Minnesota in particular has demonstrated it is incapable of competent governance. Federal law is not just a thing wherever they voted for the President. The people of Eagle Pass got overrun for four years under Biden and dems did not care for a second. Just because the people of Minnesota are awful and can't behave, doesn't mean the feds should just abandon it. State sovereignty is a worthy discussion in many areas, but what the democrats did to this country in terms of the deliberate border invasion and wide scale fraud is unforgivable and this administration should at no point tap the brakes in fixing the mess they made. That mess is being felt everywhere and Minnesota needs cleaned up. Also, it shouldn't be lost that ICE is yanking bad people off the streets. The weird dem desire to protect illegal criminals is not something that should be yielded to.

“We can’t enforce federal law because criminals and their supporters will get violent if we do” is a mainstream left-wing position that would have been universally considered insane like 5 years ago.

Texas and Florida have just over 30x the illegal immigrants Minnesota has. These raids are punitive against a state that hurt Trump’s feelings.

 

[drayer54]

Texas and Florida have just over 30x the illegal immigrants Minnesota has. These raids are punitive against a state that hurt Trump’s feelings.

 

[LifelongFan]

It is not nutty to notice the government goon squads of high school drop outs are murdering people for their first and second amendment rights. It's not nutty to have morals.

 

[GATTACA!]

Hmmm couldn’t be because there’s a 17-fold difference in number of illegals. Must be because Tim Walz said what exactly?

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Because you idiots think that Trump's tweets are just mean lol. You really don't get it, do you? His entire Twitter image is just saying inflammatory things but you're upset that Hillary Clinton is saying the most milquetoast shit that is somehow getting people on the streets to riot. Because those that are protesting ICE are big Hilldog fans. Laughable.

In order to have admin work done properly you need to keep them happy. It's pretty normal to have your admin people as junior members at your club. Do not bite that hand(s) that feed you, cost centers should never be confused as profit centers.

I work in sales, numbnuts. I am all profit. Again, you know not what you speak of.

This is why I very rarely post on IE from 9am-5pm Monday to Friday. Can't say the same for you, the most underemployed accountant in Canada.

 

[drayer54]

Hmmm couldn’t be because there’s a 17-fold difference in number of illegals. Must be because Tim Walz said what exactly?

I think this all took off when they uncovered tons of fraud. Fraud so bad he isn’t running for re-election and is being investigated. Before you dismiss this investigation, even the NYT has accused them of blowing off whistleblowers and having exposure.

 

[TorontoGold]

I work in sales, numbnuts. I am all profit. Again, you know not what you speak of.

This is why I very rarely post on IE from 9am-5pm Monday to Friday. Can't say the same for you, the most underemployed accountant in Canada.

What are you selling? Not your own skills, someone else’s.

Well done, you punch the clock while myself and your bosses are working. Easy to sell someone else’s work, rather than be the one doing it.

 

[GATTACA!]

I think this all took off when they uncovered tons of fraud. Fraud so bad he isn’t running for re-election and is being investigated. Before you dismiss this investigation, even the NYT has accused them of blowing off whistleblowers and having exposure.

5 things to know about the Somali community in Minnesota after Trump's attacks

Almost 58% of the Somalis in Minnesota were born in the U.S. Of the foreign-born Somalis in Minnesota, an overwhelming majority –- 87% — are naturalized U.S. citizens. Of the foreign-born population, almost half entered the U.S. in 2010 or later, according to the Census Bureau.

www.pbs.org

What does that have to do with ICE? The Somalis aren't illegal aliens.

 

[TracyGraham]

The president lying about an ice officers
being run over and his midget border tsar lying about officers being approached by a guy wielding a gun are far more inflammatory.

Also get the fuck out of states that don’t want you there. If this is such a net negative let the dem states suffer and go clean out your red states. They should have no problem with these raids and will reap whatever benefits you think these deportations will provide. Texas and Florida are 2nd and 3rd in illegal immigration population, where are their raids? Minnesota is 25th.

I don't think the left really cares about any of this. They just are looking for any excuse to cause chaos and start a revolution

 

[NDVirginia19]

from what information I have seen, I think the ICE agents acted recklessly and perhaps criminally. But if you are armed and willingly inject yourself into an altercation with law enforcement and resist detainment, you are also an idiot

 

[GATTACA!]

I don't think the left really cares about any of this. They just are looking for any excuse to cause chaos and start a revolution

I think you're brainwashed.

 

[GATTACA!]

Officer that shot him was looking directly at the other officer in grey as he disarms him. Guy never reached for anything and was already disarmed before he was murdered.

 

[slick7410]

ICE used to work with much more support of the states. *like when Obama was detaining and deporting approximately 3 million in his administration. Now they’re making the situation volatile, it’s disingenuous and vile. People are being called to act against it. They think they’re f*cking Batman or Robin Hood.

ICE isn’t handling it anywhere near the standard they need to be held to. The targets are not meeting the criminals first at a high enough %.

It’s a shit show all around.

 

[drayer54]

I think you're brainwashed.

The duly elected President is enforcing what has long been the law of the land. The people of Minnesota do not like the President or the law, but that does not matter. You are arguing that states should somehow be exempted from the duly elected President applying the long established law of the land. Keep in mind the Anti-ICE outrage was going on before anyone took issue with the how. Minnesota has already foolishly stopped their law enforcement from participating. Partisanship is a hell of a drug.

 

[GATTACA!]

ICE used to work with much more support of the states. *like when Obama was detaining and deporting approximately 3 million in his administration. Now they’re making the situation volatile, it’s disingenuous and vile. People are being called to act against it. They think they’re f*cking Batman or Robin Hood.

ICE isn’t handling it anywhere near the standard they need to be held to. The targets are not meeting the criminals first at a high enough %.

It’s a shit show all around.

This is what happens when you give the department $75 billion dollars through the BBB so they can act as Trump's personal boogymen. Sending them to shit like political opponents events

Los Angeles mayor calls federal authorities source of 'disorder' after ICE raid outside Gov. Newsom event

Mayor Bass said the timing of a raid no coincidence after federal agents arrested immigrants outside Gov. Newsom's congressional redistricting event in Little Tokyo.

www.foxnews.com

Or the fucking Super Bowl halftime show

Kristi Noem torches NFL as 'weak,' vows ICE will show up at Super Bowl amid Bad Bunny scandal

Secretary Kristi Noem promises immigration enforcement at Super Bowl 60 in Santa Clara while condemning the NFL's decision to feature Bad Bunny at halftime.

www.foxnews.com

They're being forced to justify themselves so they're hiring anyone and everyone that applies with basically zero investigation, like this anti-ICE journalist

Journalist claims ICE offered her job after six-minute interview and ‘sloppy’ vetting

Slate reporter Laura Jedeed describes experience of recruitment process and concludes it is ‘so sloppy that the administration effectively has no idea who’s joining the agency’s ranks’

www.independent.co.uk

And then training these morons for 40 days. No wonder they're a sloppy joke.

 

[GATTACA!]

The duly elected President is enforcing what has long been the law of the land. The people of Minnesota do not like the President or the law, but that does not matter. You are arguing that states should somehow be exempted from the duly elected President applying the long established law of the land. Keep in mind the Anti-ICE outrage was going on before anyone took issue with the how. Minnesota has already foolishly stopped their law enforcement from participating. Partisanship is a hell of a drug.

I'm arguing that the president is focusing his attention on places he holds grudges against instead of enforcing the law in places that would make sense if this truly was about deporting as many illegal immigrants as possible. He then fans the flames of the unrest he's starting by blatantly lying when ICE fucks up and murders someone.

 

[Bantry19]

The duly elected President is enforcing what has long been the law of the land. The people of Minnesota do not like the President or the law, but that does not matter. You are arguing that states should somehow be exempted from the duly elected President applying the long established law of the land. Keep in mind the Anti-ICE outrage was going on before anyone took issue with the how. Minnesota has already foolishly stopped their law enforcement from participating. Partisanship is a hell of a drug.

Enforcing immigration law is the biggest bullshit. If they meant that, they would be in Florida and Texas. This is nothing but two fold political retribution and sowing chaos to protect pedophiles.

 

[ND88]

Officer that shot him was looking directly at the other officer in grey as he disarms him. Guy never reached for anything and was already disarmed before he was murdered.

Gattaca, appreciate you, man. But this thread is lost and has been for a long time. Abandon it, brother. The dehumanizing language and the blatant lies I have read in here from some posters regarding undocumented immigrants is some monster-type shit.