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[Giddyup]

Lol. I have gay friends dumbo

 

[Giddyup]

That’s pretty insulting Toronto. You don’t know me and you’re throwing this shit out

 

[Irish#1]

Anytime #1 speaks about Muslims

Kind of disappointed. Thought you’d have a better response than that.

 

[LifelongFan]

Before this school shooter kills your son, let me make it clear he does not represent all white men.

 

[calvegas04]

 

[TorontoGold]

Israel bombed Gaza hospital a second time, killing rescuers, say health officials

At least 20 people, including five journalists, died as they rushed to help those wounded in the first strike

www.theguardian.com

Nifty work done by #1 and others to determine Muslims are supporters of terrorism. If they didn't, they'd be horrified by a hospital getting bombed. Even Trump said he didn't like it. Oh well, a few less terrorists.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Israel bombed Gaza hospital a second time, killing rescuers, say health officials

At least 20 people, including five journalists, died as they rushed to help those wounded in the first strike

www.theguardian.com

Nifty work done by #1 and others to determine Muslims are supporters of terrorism. If they didn't, they'd be horrified by a hospital getting bombed. Even Trump said he didn't like it. Oh well, a few less terrorists.

Here's why you're a classic useful idiot. While most people would agree that bombing a hospital or school is bad, people like you totally ignore why it happens and that Hamas uses hospitals and schools for military purposes for just this reason: so they can then play the victim in a situation they created... and useful idiots like you shill for them.

From a quick AI search as to whether Hamas uses schools and hospitals for military purposes:

The use of hospitals and schools for military purposes by Hamas is a widely reported and highly contentious issue, with Israeli and US officials providing evidence, while Hamas and some other sources deny or contest the claims. International law prohibits the targeting of medical facilities and the use of human shields, though this protection can be lost if a hospital is used for military activities that are harmful to the enemy.
Evidence and reports of military use
Numerous reports from the Israeli military (IDF) and independent investigations have presented evidence of Hamas using hospitals and schools for military activities:

• Command centers and weapons: In November 2023, the IDF released evidence and US intelligence confirmed that Hamas used Gaza's largest hospital, al-Shifa, as a command center and weapons depot, leveraging a tunnel network beneath the complex. Subsequent reporting from The New York Times, based on classified Israeli intelligence, corroborated that Hamas used the hospital for cover and maintained a tunnel beneath it.
• Tunnel networks: In June 2025, an IDF-led tour for journalists revealed a Hamas tunnel beneath a hospital in southern Gaza, with a room where a top Hamas commander was reportedly killed. An Israeli military document from February 2024 also reported that a significant Hamas intelligence command center was located in a tunnel system running beneath UNRWA's headquarters and a nearby school.
• Weaponry and storage: Israeli forces have reported finding caches of weapons, grenades, and military equipment within medical facilities and schools. For example, in June 2024, the IDF stated it found a "terrorist war room" in a medical clinic in Shujaiya.
• Exploitation of UN facilities: Seized Hamas military plans have revealed that the group considered schools and other civilian facilities "the best obstacles" to protect its forces. An IDF document noted that Hamas uses UNRWA schools for refuge, weapons storage, and as part of its force deployment. A 2015 UN inquiry also found that weapons were placed in an UNRWA school, confirming the possibility that an armed group used the premises to launch attacks.
• Hostage taking: Released Israeli hostages have testified to being held inside and underneath hospitals. In November 2023, CCTV footage showed hostages being brought into al-Shifa Hospital by armed Hamas fighters.

Broader context
The debate occurs within the context of asymmetric warfare, where a non-state actor like Hamas often operates within civilian areas to counter a more powerful conventional army.

• International law: International humanitarian law protects hospitals and prohibits the use of human shields. However, the protection ceases if a hospital is used for military purposes harmful to the enemy. This often puts civilians at greater risk, regardless of who is responsible for the militarization.
• UN agency challenges: UNRWA, which runs schools and health clinics in Gaza, has long faced Israeli accusations of Hamas infiltration among its staff. UNRWA acknowledges the challenge of ensuring neutrality in a Hamas-controlled area and has stated it lacks the capacity to conduct independent security investigations.

 

[TorontoGold]

Here's why you're a classic useful idiot. While most people would agree that bombing a hospital or school is bad, people like you totally ignore why it happens and that Hamas uses hospitals and schools for military purposes for just this reason: so they can then play the victim in a situation they created... and useful idiots like you shill for them.

From a quick AI search as to whether Hamas uses schools and hospitals for military purposes:

The use of hospitals and schools for military purposes by Hamas is a widely reported and highly contentious issue, with Israeli and US officials providing evidence, while Hamas and some other sources deny or contest the claims. International law prohibits the targeting of medical facilities and the use of human shields, though this protection can be lost if a hospital is used for military activities that are harmful to the enemy.
Evidence and reports of military use
Numerous reports from the Israeli military (IDF) and independent investigations have presented evidence of Hamas using hospitals and schools for military activities:

• Command centers and weapons: In November 2023, the IDF released evidence and US intelligence confirmed that Hamas used Gaza's largest hospital, al-Shifa, as a command center and weapons depot, leveraging a tunnel network beneath the complex. Subsequent reporting from The New York Times, based on classified Israeli intelligence, corroborated that Hamas used the hospital for cover and maintained a tunnel beneath it.
• Tunnel networks: In June 2025, an IDF-led tour for journalists revealed a Hamas tunnel beneath a hospital in southern Gaza, with a room where a top Hamas commander was reportedly killed. An Israeli military document from February 2024 also reported that a significant Hamas intelligence command center was located in a tunnel system running beneath UNRWA's headquarters and a nearby school.
• Weaponry and storage: Israeli forces have reported finding caches of weapons, grenades, and military equipment within medical facilities and schools. For example, in June 2024, the IDF stated it found a "terrorist war room" in a medical clinic in Shujaiya.
• Exploitation of UN facilities: Seized Hamas military plans have revealed that the group considered schools and other civilian facilities "the best obstacles" to protect its forces. An IDF document noted that Hamas uses UNRWA schools for refuge, weapons storage, and as part of its force deployment. A 2015 UN inquiry also found that weapons were placed in an UNRWA school, confirming the possibility that an armed group used the premises to launch attacks.
• Hostage taking: Released Israeli hostages have testified to being held inside and underneath hospitals. In November 2023, CCTV footage showed hostages being brought into al-Shifa Hospital by armed Hamas fighters.

Broader context
The debate occurs within the context of asymmetric warfare, where a non-state actor like Hamas often operates within civilian areas to counter a more powerful conventional army.

• International law: International humanitarian law protects hospitals and prohibits the use of human shields. However, the protection ceases if a hospital is used for military purposes harmful to the enemy. This often puts civilians at greater risk, regardless of who is responsible for the militarization.
• UN agency challenges: UNRWA, which runs schools and health clinics in Gaza, has long faced Israeli accusations of Hamas infiltration among its staff. UNRWA acknowledges the challenge of ensuring neutrality in a Hamas-controlled area and has stated it lacks the capacity to conduct independent security investigations.

I'm a useful idiot, really? Look at you, like a pig just eating all the slop from the trough without even thinking.

Even Israel has said it was a "mishap".


But, because you can't formulate a thought beyond "kill da muslims" you got embarrassed yet again.

We should get a counter going "Days since Bishy embarrassed himself". Are you nervous that you're slowly sinking to the bottom of the MAGA totem pole? Giddyup got himself banned, and Circa is making false claims about getting SWATTED. Doesn't seem like long before the dunce cap is all yours!

 

[Bishop2b5]

I'm a useful idiot, really?

Yes. Was I unclear? You habitually come down on the wrong side of everything and defend the criminals, the terrorists, the perverts, and so on. Every. Single. Time. During the Cold War, there was a certain type of person who habitually defended the Soviets, their atrocities, there failure of an economy, and everything else, and NEVER had a good thing to say about their own country. Even the Soviets, who they were defending, referred to them as useful idiots. That's you.

No matter what atrocities Hamas commits, you defend them and blame Israel. You cry about Israel hitting a hospital that Hamas is using for military purposes - which, according to international humanitarian law, removes their protection - yet are too cowardly or twisted or perverted or usefully stupid to condemn Hamas for using human shields, launching missiles from hospitals or schools, building bunkers under hospitals, launching the terrorist attack on 10/7 that started this round of fighting, violating every single peace agreement ever worked out with Israel, and openly calling for genocide against the Israelis. You don't have the moral compass for any of that. You defend the bad side of this and every issue. You, sir, are the poster child for useful idiocy.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Yes. Was I unclear? You habitually come down on the wrong side of everything and defend the criminals, the terrorists, the perverts, and so on. Every. Single. Time. During the Cold War, there was a certain type of person who habitually defended the Soviets, their atrocities, there failure of an economy, and everything else, and NEVER had a good thing to say about their own country. Even the Soviets, who they were defending, referred to them as useful idiots. That's you.

No matter what atrocities Hamas commits, you defend them and blame Israel. You cry about Israel hitting a hospital that Hamas is using for military purposes - which, according to international humanitarian law, removes their protection - yet are too cowardly or twisted or perverted or usefully stupid to condemn Hamas for using human shields, launching missiles from hospitals or schools, building bunkers under hospitals, launching the terrorist attack on 10/7 that started this round of fighting, violating every single peace agreement ever worked out with Israel, and openly calling for genocide against the Israelis. You don't have the moral compass for any of that. You defend the bad side of this and every issue. You, sir, are the poster child for useful idiocy.

What perverts has he ever defended?

 

[Bishop2b5]

What perverts has he ever defended?

Men dressing as women and going into women's bathrooms with children present are perverts - always has been, still is. Adults, especially parents and teachers, pushing the whole trans thing on little kids too young to have a clue or resist are perverts using them to deal with their own mental illnesses. Palestinian terrorists who raped and murdered innocent teenage girls and paraded their bodies through the streets to cheering crowds are perverts (as are all rapists). He's supported or defended all those people.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Men dressing as women and going into women's bathrooms with children present are perverts - always has been, still is. Adults, especially parents and teachers, pushing the whole trans thing on little kids too young to have a clue or resist are perverts using them to deal with their own mental illnesses. Palestinian terrorists who raped and murdered innocent teenage girls and paraded their bodies through the streets to cheering crowds are perverts (as are all rapists). He's supported or defended all those people.

He's never supported any men dressing as women to go into women's bathrooms. He's never once supported any adult "pushing" the whole trans thing. He's never once supported Hamas or other terrorists. You could only possibly think that unless you think trans people, like myself, are inherently perverts. The only way you could think he's supported terrorists is if you think all Muslims are terrorists.

So answer these very direct questions, do you think trans people are perverts? Do you think all Muslims are terrorists?

 

[TorontoGold]

Yes. Was I unclear? You habitually come down on the wrong side of everything and defend the criminals, the terrorists, the perverts, and so on. Every. Single. Time. During the Cold War, there was a certain type of person who habitually defended the Soviets, their atrocities, there failure of an economy, and everything else, and NEVER had a good thing to say about their own country. Even the Soviets, who they were defending, referred to them as useful idiots. That's you.

No matter what atrocities Hamas commits, you defend them and blame Israel. You cry about Israel hitting a hospital that Hamas is using for military purposes - which, according to international humanitarian law, removes their protection - yet are too cowardly or twisted or perverted or usefully stupid to condemn Hamas for using human shields, launching missiles from hospitals or schools, building bunkers under hospitals, launching the terrorist attack on 10/7 that started this round of fighting, violating every single peace agreement ever worked out with Israel, and openly calling for genocide against the Israelis. You don't have the moral compass for any of that. You defend the bad side of this and every issue. You, sir, are the poster child for useful idiocy.

Remember when you went on a tantrum about ad hominems? (Still waiting on you telling me where I used them in my description of her stances) And now look at you, like always you can’t even play by your own self important standards. Sad!

Take out any of my positions. You are still disagreeing with the state of Israel. Some confused old man in the middle of nowhere thinks everyone else is wrong and he is right.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Remember when you went on a tantrum about ad hominems? (Still waiting on you telling me where I used them in my description of her stances) And now look at you, like always you can’t even play by your own self important standards. Sad!

Take out any of my positions. You are still disagreeing with the state of Israel. Some confused old man in the middle of nowhere thinks everyone else is wrong and he is right.

It's hilarious him calling you a pervert when he's written a softcore fanfic of Sydney Sweeney on this very website within the last month

And Sydney Sweeney is probably around his daughter's ages.

 

[TorontoGold]

Men dressing as women and going into women's bathrooms with children present are perverts - always has been, still is. Adults, especially parents and teachers, pushing the whole trans thing on little kids too young to have a clue or resist are perverts using them to deal with their own mental illnesses. Palestinian terrorists who raped and murdered innocent teenage girls and paraded their bodies through the streets to cheering crowds are perverts (as are all rapists). He's supported or defended all those people.

Oh boy, bagel boss bishop is imploding folks!

Can you provide any sort of reference to my positions that would support these claims?

I didn’t think you’d take the race to the bottom so seriously once Giddyup gave up the crown. I’m sure Circa won’t go down without a fight!

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Oh boy, bagel boss bishop is imploding folks!

Can you provide any sort of reference to my positions that would support these claims?

I didn’t think you’d take the race to the bottom so seriously once Giddyup gave up the crown. I’m sure Circa won’t go down without a fight!

Circa hasn't woken up yet. Give him a few hours

 

[Bishop2b5]

Oh boy, bagel boss bishop is imploding folks!

Can you provide any sort of reference to my positions that would support these claims?

I didn’t think you’d take the race to the bottom so seriously once Giddyup gave up the crown. I’m sure Circa won’t go down without a fight!

Could you at least try to speak like an adult instead of a butthurt adolescent? Seriously. I'll be glad to debate with you on anything reasonable, but speak like a man, not a little kid.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Could you at least try to speak like an adult instead of a butthurt adolescent? Seriously. I'll be glad to debate with you on anything reasonable, but speak like a man, not a little kid.

What is it you say about resorting to name calling and personal attacks? Pot meet kettle

 

[Bishop2b5]

It's hilarious him calling you a pervert when he's written a softcore fanfic of Sydney Sweeney on this very website within the last month

And Sydney Sweeney is probably around his daughter's ages.

I missed that. Can you show it to us? I'd like to see it.

 

[Bishop2b5]

He's never supported any men dressing as women to go into women's bathrooms. He's never once supported any adult "pushing" the whole trans thing. He's never once supported Hamas or other terrorists. You could only possibly think that unless you think trans people, like myself, are inherently perverts. The only way you could think he's supported terrorists is if you think all Muslims are terrorists.

So answer these very direct questions, do you think trans people are perverts? Do you think all Muslims are terrorists?

He most certainly has. He constantly takes the side of Hamas in any and every discussion. As for your questions, my answer to both is no. It's why I mentioned specific behaviors such as pushing trans ideology on kids and going into the bathroom with children as opposed to a blanket condemnation of all trans people. Same with specifically noting terrorist acts by some as opposed to all Muslims.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

I missed that. Can you show it to us? I'd like to see it.

You're really losing it old man, it's not even two weeks old

Post in thread 'Awesome Video Thread' https://www.irishenvy.com/threads/awesome-video-thread.53714/post-3498953

And here's a screenshot so you can't delete and try play innocent about it

 

[ColoradoIrish]

He most certainly has. He constantly takes the side of Hamas in any and every discussion. As for your questions, my answer to both is no. It's why I mentioned specific behaviors such as pushing trans ideology on kids and going into the bathroom with children as opposed to a blanket condemnation of all trans people. Same with specifically noting terrorist acts by some as opposed to all Muslims.

So he's never supported perverts or terrorists then. He has supported the people of Palestine and condemned Hamas at every opportunity, you just don't like that he calls out Israel. Please share a single post of him supporting perverts or Hamas.

 

[Bishop2b5]

You're really losing it old man, it's not even two weeks old

Post in thread 'Awesome Video Thread' https://www.irishenvy.com/threads/awesome-video-thread.53714/post-3498953

And here's a screenshot so you can't delete and try play innocent about it

View attachment 3059839

You think that's about Sweeney? Seriously? I replied to an AI gif of her as Snow White with an old, old, classic joke about Snow White and her dwarfs. Had nothing to do with her at all other than the gif reminded me of a Snow White joke. Calling that a softcore fanfic about her is beyond a stretch. It's just outright wrong. Don't fall into the Toronto trap of being so desperate to "get me" that you resort to this sort of nonsense. Find something real at least.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

You think that's about Sweeney? Seriously? I replied to an AI gif of her as Snow White with an old, old, classic joke about Snow White and her dwarfs. Had nothing to do with her at all other than the gif reminded me of a Snow White joke. Calling that a softcore fanfic about her is beyond a stretch. It's just outright wrong. Don't fall into the Toronto trap of being so desperate to "get me" that you resort to this sort of nonsense. Find something real at least.

How is that not about her? It's you saying Sweeney cast as snow White would be amazing. And how is it not soft core fanfic? You wrote about the dwarves being peeping Tom's and coming watching her undress. Most definitions of soft core fanfic are explicitly non sexual. You crossed that line but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt

 

[TorontoGold]

Remember when you went on a tantrum about ad hominems? (Still waiting on you telling me where I used them in my description of her stances) And now look at you, like always you can’t even play by your own self important standards. Sad!

Take out any of my positions. You are still disagreeing with the state of Israel. Some confused old man in the middle of nowhere thinks everyone else is wrong and he is right.

Could you at least try to speak like an adult instead of a butthurt adolescent? Seriously. I'll be glad to debate with you on anything reasonable, but speak like a man, not a little kid.

Respond big boy. Come on, show us your ability to debate.

I also want you to post proof of support for terrorists or perverts.

Otherwise, just be the quite coward we know you typically are when challenged by intellectual superiors.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Respond big boy. Come on, show us your ability to debate.

I also want you to post proof of support for terrorists or perverts.

Otherwise, just be the quite coward we know you typically are when challenged by intellectual superiors.

You beg for abuse. How many times have you tried this and gotten demolished and exposed for being weak and whiny and childish? Do you remember the joke about the bear hunter who "wasn't there for the hunting?" LOL

The word you're looking for was quiet, not quite. Probably shouldn't claim intellectual superiority in the same sentence, but it is funny you feel the need to do so! Finally, speak like a man, not a butthurt little boy begging for attention. You're mad because I held your feet to the fire last week and showed you to be nothing more than a dishonest constant user of strawman arguments and ad hominem attacks. Now you're mad that I called you out, quite accurately BTW, for being the IE useful idiot of the year. Grow up, stop talking like a kid, stop acting like a little girl, and stop boring me with your whiny nonsense and spin.

 

[Bishop2b5]

How is that not about her? It's you saying Sweeney cast as snow White would be amazing. And how is it not soft core fanfic? You wrote about the dwarves being peeping Tom's and coming watching her undress. Most definitions of soft core fanfic are explicitly non sexual. You crossed that line but I'll give you the benefit of the doubtView attachment 3059840

I know what softcore fanfic is. You're trying too hard to make something out of nothing. A Planet of Memes post, not me, said she'd be amazing as Snow White. That just reminded me of an old joke about Snow White. You're trying too hard to make something of nothing. That's a big swing and a miss.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

I know what softcore fanfic is. You're trying too hard to make something out of nothing. A Planet of Memes post, not me, said she'd be amazing as Snow White. That just reminded me of an old joke about Snow White. You're trying too hard to make something of nothing. That's a big swing and a miss.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

You beg for abuse. How many times have you tried this and gotten demolished and exposed for being weak and whiny and childish? Do you remember the joke about the bear hunter who "wasn't there for the hunting?" LOL

The word you're looking for was quiet, not quite. Probably shouldn't claim intellectual superiority in the same sentence, but it is funny you feel the need to do so! Finally, speak like a man, not a butthurt little boy begging for attention. You're mad because I held your feet to the fire last week and showed you to be nothing more than a dishonest constant user of strawman arguments and ad hominem attacks. Now you're mad that I called you out, quite accurately BTW, for being the IE useful idiot of the year. Grow up, stop talking like a kid, stop acting like a little girl, and stop boring me with your whiny nonsense and spin.

Naw dude your claiming he supports perverts and terrorists. You've hit a new low even for you when it comes to personal attacks. Surely leppy is up in arms about this

 

[LifelongFan]

Supporting Israel is supporting terrorists, rapists, and pedophiles.