Good poster on Rivals on how Swarbrick and Kelly should proceed

[Bluto]

Well that’s kind of my point. From my perspective putting on weight and developing a attitude is easy. Drugs ( roids) only enhance whatever you are. Think drinking, happy drunk vs mean drunk. Happy dudes are typically happy dunks, and mean equals mean drunk. Tranquil And Coney look the part to me: and I like the Gilman brings it. Outside of that. No mean streak

That’s a fair point. Nurturing that while maintaining some semblance of control/sanity within the program is the challenge I suppose. That’s one thing Saban is really good at.

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

The only complaint I have about the defense is that they didn't have the depth to absorb one injury to a key player. We can't be that reliant on our starters that one injury completely destroys the defense. That said, I don't really blame the current staff for that. As little as two years ago this defense was recruited and coached by BVG. The fact we were able to get a consensus all american out of it is amazing in the first place. I am a little worried about corners in the pipeline, but not so much that I think its some breaking point, instead simply a weakness we will have to address.

The offensive side of the ball is where I have more question marks. While really solid execution of a good defense will make a great team defense, IMO you need to have either elite talent or an elite system to have a great offense. Right now we have a bunch of positions that are good, but none that are elite, and while Long has brought our offense into the modern game I don't think its anything cutting edge. It sounds like he has a good offensive mind, so I don't think he is necessarily a problem, but I would like to see his offense evolve more. I want Long to evolve more because I do not think we have the elite offensive talent on the current roster and it would take longer and require more effort to get that talent than to simply change the scheme up a little.

When watching Oklahoma and Alabama something that really stuck out to me is how they are able to better use their big linemen in a power run game that also has RPO elements that are the new standard. For so long we have heard how difficult it is to get a push in a zone read because linemen move laterally so much and can't risk getting a downfield push in case of a pass. It seemed like Alabama and Oklahoma combated some of that by having a pin and pull system that both gives time for the read to be made while also not having linemen get downfield because their down blocks stay in the one yard zone and the pull takes long enough that any quick pass would happen before the puller gets through the hole. I feel like having linemen actually move guys is one of the biggest advantages we are not taking advantage of in our current offense. We can move laterally all we want with a zone read, but elite defenses will always have faster players than us because we do not have elite offensive skill players.

 

[Hammer Of The Gods]

First off, LeBron never weighed over 300lbs so name other basketball players over 300lbs that aren’t 7 feet tall. Chase winnovich? What are you talking about? He had 5 sacks this year. Tillery, okwara, Kareem all had more than him. When we played a 3-4 all our guys were over 300lbs too. The point you made earlier was that we were pip squeaks which is not true, it was true in 06’ now it’s well we aren’t elite.

Lol, we are having a disconnect. Clemson doesn’t run a 3-4 you just have to google to figure that out. I don’t know where all this 3/4 stuff came from? Alabama does have a 3/4 base option in there schematics but it’s ever evolving because Saban is constiantly losing coordinators but for the most part Nick has his thumb on the D.

I got Auto Corrected on Winnovich, my bad.

But back to my original post I was using’ Winnovich ‘ as my ‘atittude’ example.

In the end. We just disagree and that’s ok. We both want the same thing. Win, win the right way and win a championship we just have different views on how we get that. It’s all good my man

 

[Hammer Of The Gods]

That’s a fair point. Nurturing that while maintaining some semblance of control/sanity within the program is the challenge I suppose. That’s one thing Saban is really good at.

Dude, is that not the truth? Saban is a absolutely mastermind. Basically in every single phase of football

 

[NDisme]

Lol, we are having a disconnect. Clemson doesn’t run a 3-4 you just have to google to figure that out. I don’t know where all this 3/4 stuff came from? Alabama does have a 3/4 base option in there schematics but it’s ever evolving because Saban is constiantly losing coordinators but for the most part Nick has his thumb on the D.

I got Auto Corrected on Winnovich, my bad.

But back to my original post I was using’ Winnovich ‘ as my ‘atittude’ example.

In the end. We just disagree and that’s ok. We both want the same thing. Win, win the right way and win a championship we just have different views on how we get that. It’s all good my man

I got you, we do I guess I just don’t think we are pip squeaks out there; I don’t see that. I mean yea I’d like more animals but our d line is not where I had issues

 

[gkautz10]

Why are we so small? Clemson and Bama are massive and play with rage. Like, Tillery. He’s ok, but there isn’t one thing imposing about that dude and he’s our stud d-lineman

It’s because the compete for roster spots annually. ND guys are given their 4 year scholarship and don’t see much need to compete. The cream rises to the top when you sign 120 guys and the boy give a scholarship to the top 85 and don’t guarantee them anything next unless they produce. Not saying ND should change what they do, just pointing out the difference in philosophy and why ND is where they are and why Clemson and Alabama are the way they are. Big culture differences.

 

[Rocket89]

I’m just saying there are 300lbs basketball players not that there all a bunch of Lebrons.

The Clippers' Boban is the heaviest player in the NBA at 7'3" 291 pounds.

 

[Irishize]

The point he makes about Gilman being too slow is bullshit. It was poor technique. Gilman would start for Clemson and has all American potential. People are overreaction prone and emotional... to put it gently.

I agree. That’s just lazy to throw out the tired “slow & unathletic” bs. As Blackledge correctly stated on that TD play, Gilman got caught completely flat-footed & had no chance of catching up. Now that’s still on Gilman for getting fooled but it has zero to do w/ his speed. I’d take Gilman over any of Clemson’s safeties.

 

[BeatSC]

Clemson made a few great plays and we had a few brain farts. Add to that not a single break fall our way and getig F’d on calls on the field oveturned and you have a hard Hill to climb. Our coaching on offense was terrible and Book is NOT a playmaker against a defense of this caliber. There are at least 25 more capable QBs in CFB than Book. What game disc Book start that Wimbush wouldn’t have won for us? I know Wimbush has as much to prove as Book if not more.

Next Year:
Insert Wildcat occasionally with Jafar
Run under center with fullback occasionally
Give the speedier younger receivers some PT
Compete starting QB slot. Just like when it was clear Bryant could not get zclemson to the promise land Book will not either.
More blitzing
Move Gillman to rover
Teach DBs to play the ball. They pass up so many ints and pick 6 opportunities. Guys like Pride have the speed to make these plays but do not play the ball.

Comments:
Who’s going to replace Dex?
Going to miss Dru and Coney.
No one gets drafted earlier than the third round.
This dink and dunk schitt from Book ain’t gonna cut it next year.
New kickers
Improved line
New players that will hopefully be bigger playmakers than what we have had.
To make CFP again we will need more style points. Games like Ball State, Nabdy and Pitt will count more against us.

I’d be interested to hear from the coach of Syracuse of how he thinks ND stacks up against Clemson since they played us both.

Let Kelly lose his schitt like Saban and fire his team up. He had reasons to rip into players and refs yesterday and he had to swallow hard.

Like the days of Pete Carroll at usc and SAban today the best players play and that’s should be known not the best behaved RKGs. Stepherson was our best WR since Fuller left and he was not a RKG.

That’s enough deep thoughts by Jack handy.

 

[nd_fan]

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I’d be interested to hear from the coach of Syracuse of how he thinks ND stacks up against Clemson since they played us both.

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Well we know after the Clemson game, Pitts Coach was asked about the difference between ND and Clemson and replied:

Immediately after the game, Narduzzi was asked to compare Clemson to Notre Dame. He did not need much time to contemplate his response.

“There's no comparison,” Narduzzi said frankly. “Clemson is the best football team we've played so far to this point.”

 

[Sea Turtle]

Clemson made a few great plays and we had a few brain farts. Add to that not a single break fall our way and getig F’d on calls on the field oveturned and you have a hard Hill to climb. Our coaching on offense was terrible and Book is NOT a playmaker against a defense of this caliber. There are at least 25 more capable QBs in CFB than Book. What game disc Book start that Wimbush wouldn’t have won for us? I know Wimbush has as much to prove as Book if not more.

Next Year:
Insert Wildcat occasionally with Jafar
Run under center with fullback occasionally
Give the speedier younger receivers some PT
Compete starting QB slot. Just like when it was clear Bryant could not get zclemson to the promise land Book will not either.
More blitzing
Move Gillman to rover
Teach DBs to play the ball. They pass up so many ints and pick 6 opportunities. Guys like Pride have the speed to make these plays but do not play the ball.

Comments:
Who’s going to replace Dex?
Going to miss Dru and Coney.
No one gets drafted earlier than the third round.
This dink and dunk schitt from Book ain’t gonna cut it next year.
New kickers
Improved line
New players that will hopefully be bigger playmakers than what we have had.
To make CFP again we will need more style points. Games like Ball State, Nabdy and Pitt will count more against us.

I’d be interested to hear from the coach of Syracuse of how he thinks ND stacks up against Clemson since they played us both.

Let Kelly lose his schitt like Saban and fire his team up. He had reasons to rip into players and refs yesterday and he had to swallow hard.

Like the days of Pete Carroll at usc and SAban today the best players play and that’s should be known not the best behaved RKGs. Stepherson was our best WR since Fuller left and he was not a RKG.

That’s enough deep thoughts by Jack handy.

The problem with letting Kelly loose to fire his team up is that the Administration is uncomfortable with aggressive coaching on the sideline. I'm not kidding.

The reason why we get jobbed in these games or are never given a break is because we don't have a conference behind us.

 

[BeatSC]

Well we know after the Clemson game, Pitts Coach was asked about the difference between ND and Clemson and replied:

I’m thinking syracuse coach said the same thing. I think we held Pitt to less yards than Clemson did.
Da o said we were the best team they played but that still doesn’t say much.

 

[BeatSC]

The problem with letting Kelly loose to fire his team up is that the Administration is uncomfortable with aggressive coaching on the sideline. I'm not kidding.

I believe ya and sadly that keeps us from being badasses

 

[T-Boone]

Dude, is that not the truth? Saban is a absolutely mastermind. Basically in every single phase of football

He should work on the final phase, retiring while on top before everyone starts resenting you.

 

[NorthDakota]

I’m thinking syracuse coach said the same thing. I think we held Pitt to less yards than Clemson did.
Da o said we were the best team they played but that still doesn’t say much.

Cuse coach said ND was awesome on defense and thought it would be a great game.