Demetrius Jones Stats

[jiggafini19]

9 regular season games:

137-161 (85%) for 1530 (170 per game) yards and 23 TD passes.

529 (58.7 per game) rushing yards, 5 TD.

Named first team All City Quarterback in today's Chicago Sun Times, edging out Isiah Williams of Chicago Vocational.

Two Morgan Park offensive linemen and WR Chris James were also named All City.

 

[bigdon]

Jiggs, I know that Chris James has traveled to ND with Jones on at least several occasions and there was some mention that Jones was trying to get him to ND. I can't find anything to say that ND has offered. Is this guy worth an offer? He seems to be doing great catching Jones' passes.

 

[jiggafini19]

Jiggs, I know that Chris James has traveled to ND with Jones on at least several occasions and there was some mention that Jones was trying to get him to ND. I can't find anything to say that ND has offered. Is this guy worth an offer? He seems to be doing great catching Jones' passes.

He has not been offered and is certainly worth it.

It will be tough to pry him away from Illinois. James and Marquis Wilkins are going to form quite a tandem with Isiah Williams and Rashard Mendenhall. I think the four of them know this.

James had 39 catches for 908 yards and 12 TD in 9 games.

 

[BGIF]

James and Marquis Wilkins are going to form quite a tandem with Isiah Williams and Rashard Mendenhall.

Marques Wilkins recently visited ND unofficially. He and James would form quite a tandem at ND continuing to catch passes from Jones but I don't think either one of them will get the chance unless Ausberry, Austin, Jackson, and Moore all chose to go elsewhere.

I've long thought Jones future at ND was a WR ala Battle particularly in a CW offense but after watching Marcus Vick last night against BC, I can see him in the Weis offense with his feet as a wildcard. They wouldn't be used often but when they were ... One more offensive threat that a defense has to contain. Hard to put LBs in coverage when somebody has to stay home to shadow an elusive QB. Somebody's gonna be open.

 

[scooper]

I don't care what level you are playing at. An 85% completion rate is incredible. And one out of seven of his attempts is a touchdown. Nearly 10 yards per attempt. Over 11 yards per completion. Any word on INT's? These numbers aren't huge like some of the guys throwing in pass-happy offenses, but these numbers are extremely efficient.

 

[Irish Envy]

I don't care what level you are playing at. An 85% completion rate is incredible. And one out of seven of his attempts is a touchdown. Nearly 10 yards per attempt. Over 11 yards per completion. Any word on INT's? These numbers aren't huge like some of the guys throwing in pass-happy offenses, but these numbers are extremely efficient.

Bingo... I had to go to the bathroom after reading the stats. It is amazing and all against good Chicago comp.

 

[nayers]

maybe not as tough considering that they are now on probation

 

[jiggafini19]

Wilkins and James do not have ND offers and are Illini verbals. Long long shots.

No word on INT. I noticed that was absent myself. I'm guessing with that compeltion rate, there weren't many.

Morgan Park plays a tough foe out of my old stomping ground, the East Suburban Catholic Conference (Dan Santucci, St. Patrick; Mike Goolsby and Rudy, Joliet Catholic, etc.). Marist HS. They're tough and scrappy, especially on defense. MPHS has loads of talent, though.

Scooper, his numbers aren't huge because he rarely had to play in the fourth quarter this year. Also, there were three games in a row that the opponent doubled up on James and went to nickel and dime defenses. Thus, their RB had over 200 yards rushing in those games.

This guy in Weis' offense is going to be electric. He just needs to get stronger and fixed up mechanically a tad. Enter Mendoza, Vaas, Weis.

 

[scooper]

Scooper, his numbers aren't huge because he rarely had to play in the fourth quarter this year. Also, there were three games in a row that the opponent doubled up on James and went to nickel and dime defenses. Thus, their RB had over 200 yards rushing in those games.

Don't get me wrong. I wasn't criticizing his numbers. I look at efficiency before I look at volume. In that regard, his numbers are astounding.

 

[bigdon]

We are in for some heavy competition in the QB area. While I think Frazer is the type of drop back that Weis likes he is going to have to give Jones a shot at the job. This guy is not going to be happy at WR if that were tried. He throws too well to be religated to that spot and has said that Weis recruited him as a QB.

With Sharpley coming along this could be some battle. What a wonderful "problem" for Charlie!

 

[BGIF]

With Sharpley coming along this could be some battle. What a wonderful "problem" for Charlie

Nice to hear somebody mention this kid. He's been lost in the shuffle by ND fans buzzing over Frazor and Jones. Meanwhile he's on campus working hard in the system with Vaas.

 

[nayers]

no offense, but if Jones or Fraizer are any better, then who cares about sharpley

 

[adam0033]

No offense, but Sharpley was pretty highly recruited. The fact that Wolke is the backup might say something but I think this kid will get snaps in the future. Keep in mind that Frazer and Jones are still in high school and kids like Wolke and Sharpley are learning everday from the coaches that Frazer and Jones have only talked to on the phone.

 

[BGIF]

No offense, but Sharpley was pretty highly recruited. The fact that Wolke is the backup might say something but I think this kid will get snaps in the future. Keep in mind that Frazer and Jones are still in high school and kids like Wolke and Sharpley are learning everday from the coaches that Frazer and Jones have only talked to on the phone.

Right on Adam!

Sharpley was a 4 star #18 ranked QB. Some may think 18 is so hot but then Brady Quinn was a 4 star #14 ranked QB. Sharpley had offers from LSU, WIS, and others but he would have had a lot more had he not verballed solidly to ND in July. Early commits don't pick up a lot of offers. People tend to forget than Sharpley was selected Athlete of the Year in the state of Michigan. He was a .500 hitter in baseball.

Wolke is older, had had more time in the weight room, as well as more time with CW and Vaas. They haven't burn a year of eligibility yet but if Quinn couldn't play for the rest of the season, I'm not sure Wolke would be the man called. Sharpley has been getting a lot of reps with the scout team against a Div 1 defense. He faces Abiamiri, Landri, and Zbikowski while Frazor and Jones are both still playing against high school boys, most of whom will play Div II ball if they ever play again.

 

[bigdon]

The only thing that bothers me about Sharpley is he is getting no on field experience. We can't evaluate him if we don't see him.

I can only hope that ND will get a sufficient lead in some of these games that Weis would let him operate with the first string for some snaps. At the risk of being boring, It worries me that Quinn might get hurt and someone with no experience woould have to replace. God forbid!

 

[BGIF]

And as I recall after Willingham was terminated several schools made a run at Sharpley but he reaffirmed his commitment to ND.

The only thing that bothers me about Sharpley is he is getting no on field experience. We can't evaluate him if we don't see him.

Doesn't matter that we evaluate him as long as CW and Vaas are.

I can only hope that ND will get a sufficient lead in some of these games that Weis would let him operate with the first string for some snaps. At the risk of being boring, It worries me that Quinn might get hurt and someone with no experience woould have to replace. God forbid!

Don't look for it to happen. In one of the press conferences since BYU game, CW noted that Wolke is getting almost all the snaps as second string but the second string QB does get a lot of snaps as Quinn does. If I recall the commentary correctly it seemed that the scout team QBs, Sharpley and Mooney get more snaps. CW also noted that he doesn't believe in putting in the second string and running up the score which explains why Wolke didn't throw a pass against BYU when he could have had a career day. Despite some big ND margins of victory, I think Wolke's only attempted 3 passes. I know I'd like to see Wolke throwing but CW hasn't called any of the plays I've sent him this season.

 

[nayers]

the point is not whether or not he is good, i understand he was highly recruited, the point is, the best players should play, so if either one of these QB's can come in learn the system and outperform the other guy, they should be the #2 man.

 

[BGIF]

the point is not whether or not he is good, i understand he was highly recruited, the point is, the best players should play, so if either one of these QB's can come in learn the system and outperform the other guy, they should be the #2 man.

No, the best players shouldn't play. The best 11 plays.

But as Frazor and Jones won't be arriving on campus for another 9 months, I'll ride with the guys training in the system under Weis and Vaas right now and expect those two coaches to put the guy in that they feel is the right guy.

There are 9 freshman on the current two deep. Under CW, they play when they're ready regardless of recruiting rankings.

 

[jiggafini19]

Jones threw one TD pass last night, but Marist beat Morgan Park 24-8. Jones and Morgan Park now move into the City Playoffs. The City Champion plays the Catholic League Champion at Soldier Field in the Prep Bowl. Morgan Park should win City. Their two losses have been to Catholic schools.

Jones needs fine tuning and to get stronger. If he so much as practices one play at WR, it will be a huge mistake and waste of time for him. I believe very firmly that if Mendoza, Weis and Vaas get to work with this kid, he is going to be the guy. His passing skills, coupled with his quickness, will be a tremendous mix to develop while under this regime.

I think a quarterback competition is very healthy. Jones, Frazor and Sharpley could all push each other after Quinn is gone. Whoever emerges will be ready to go.

 

[Guest]

Jones will be scary good once Weis is coaching him. Jones, Frazer, Sharpley, whichever one is left out and doesn't get to play the next four years could still get drafted just based on the fact they were coached by Weis.

Matt Cassel out of USC last year was drafted by the Pats, and he never played much if any at SC. I think he's the backup behind Brady. No one evaluates talent like the NFL, if you can play the NFL will find you, regardless of what school you go to, or how far down the depth chart you are.

 

[BGIF]

if you can play the NFL will find you, regardless of what school you go to, or how far down the depth chart you are.

Yeah, the Giants have found such talent as Rich Glover, Rocky Thompson, Ernie Wheelright, and a host of other unmemorable draft choices that "could play" right up until they put a NY helmet on.

 

[Aerosmith777]

Yeah, the Giants have found such talent as Rich Glover, Rocky Thompson, Ernie Wheelright, and a host of other unmemorable draft choices that "could play" right up until they put a NY helmet on.

Hey! They also found Lawrence Taylor, only the best defensive player in history!!! Not to mention Phil Simms, Mark Bavaro, Sam Huff, Frank Gifford, Harry Carson, or more recently Micheal Strahan, Jeremy Shockey, and oh yeah, some emerging young QB named Eli.

If you look at the drafts of any team over a long period of time, you're gonna see a lot of names you don't know, even in the 1st round. The draft is a hit or miss prospect, and generally there are a lot less hits than misses. Don't believe me? Ask the Browns how Tim Couch is working out (not to mention William Green, Gerard Warren, & Courtney Brown). Or ask the Cardinals how Thomas Jones, David Boston, Andre Wadsworth, and Tom Knight are working out for their franchise.

The Giants have had their fair share of stars and flops in the draft. Like most teams, for every Jeremy Shockey they have about 2 Ron Daynes. Its rare that you find a franchise draft well for more than a few years in a row though. And don't forget, they've gotten considerable production out of their later round picks. More than most teams I think. Strahan was a 2nd rounder, and he's turned into one of the best pass rushers in history and a sure first-ballot hall of famer. Bavaro was a 4th rounder I think and is still the best TE in franchise history (sorry Jeremy). And don't forget Jessie Armstead. He was a 7th rounder, and all he did was lead the defense to a superbowl in 2000 (where Kerry Collins imploded and gave the game away to Ray Lewis & co.).

 

[Aerosmith777]

No offense, but Sharpley was pretty highly recruited. The fact that Wolke is the backup might say something but I think this kid will get snaps in the future. Keep in mind that Frazer and Jones are still in high school and kids like Wolke and Sharpley are learning everday from the coaches that Frazer and Jones have only talked to on the phone.

I think all it says is that Sharpley is red-shirting b/c Weis doesn't wanna waste a year of eligibility to give him a few snaps in garbage time. If something were to happen to Quinn, that might change, but as long as Brady is healthy and the backup is only playing to mop up, I don't think the depth chart order means anything about the relative talent of the backups.

 

[Guest]

Yeah, the Giants have found such talent as Rich Glover, Rocky Thompson, Ernie Wheelright, and a host of other unmemorable draft choices that "could play" right up until they put a NY helmet on.

Tiki was a nice find, Strahan was a late round pick as well if I'm not mistaken...

 

[jiggafini19]

Jone's numbers were similar to the team's previous loss against Mt. Carmel in the opener:

10-30 passing with 1 TD pass.

Catholic schools in Chicago are always tough. I'm actually not too shocked Marist beat Morgan Park.

It will be interesting to see Morgan Park go through the Public League Playoffs. They have to be the heavy favorite.