Dayne Crist

[leahy's lads]

I have not resubscribed to the Blue&Gold, so therefore haven't heard much regarding spring practice....... anyone hear anything on Dayne?????

 

[mjbirish]

he progressing really well also but clausen is still the man. But he will be pushing him at practice

 

[leahy's lads]

he progressing really well also but clausen is still the man. But he will be pushing him at practice

i certainly hope so!

 

[NDinL.A.]

Crist is looking much better and is a great leader. However, as was already stated, he is far behind Jimmy right now. JC's accuracy, experience, and knowledge of the offense is what is separating the 2 right now.

Here's a case in point: Earlier in the spring, when Crist was under center, the running game wouldn't work. Why? Christ kept misidentifying for the line who the MIKE LB was. That is crucial for the line to know, but Crist was confused every time the defense showed him a new look. That's why experience is so crucial at he QB position, and why it was laughable when people were screaming for Crist to play last year, when he was even less prepared.

Crist will be great for us, but not yet, not now...

 

[coachjohnson]

After watching two practices this spring I was really impressed with our qbs. Clausen threw the ball really well, as did Crist. But Montana looked really sharp throwing too. We're in pretty good shape at the quarterback position.

 

[Swash]

Here is a link about Crist: Clausen sees nice progression from Crist

Check out the video of Clausen talking about Crist and his progress.

 

[TDHeysus]

Crist will be great for us, but not yet, not now...

I agree totally - I think Crist will end up with better numbers than Clausen (not that clausens numbers are all that bad) I think he is more physically mature than JC. I keep hearing about his leadership skills, and I hope that is true. All great teams (and overachieving teams) have strong leadership. Although, I cant help to think that Te'o is going to be the natural leader for this team. Plus, he(crist) will have the benefit of walking into a jump started program, rather than having to establish a program like Clausen and company have had to endure.

 

[Clausen2Kamara]

I totally agree with the above statements...I think the sky is the limit for Crist. He is a different QB than JC...He has more mobility and better size. I'm not at the point to compare their arm strength and accuracy due to the lack of tape but I think he is right on par. The kid is working hard and has made big strides but like NDinLA said, he can not still identify the Mike LB. That will come with time. FWIW...Auburn's former HC Tommy Tuberville was impressed with Crist saying something like, "Thats your backup QB? He looks really good."

 

[irishandy]

Crist is making good progress. I have been watching the practices from ND's website and like coachjohnsonsaid all of our QB's are looking good. I don't doubt that Crist will be a great QB, but lets not forget he hasn't taken a snap in a college game yet. Right now Clausen is our guy under center and the QB competition should help both. That video from above, I liked hearing that Clausen helped recruit Crist.

 

[Swash]

Here is a nice video about Crist from wsbt.

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[Riddickulous]

I agree totally - I think Crist will end up with better numbers than Clausen (not that clausens numbers are all that bad) I think he is more physically mature than JC. I keep hearing about his leadership skills, and I hope that is true. All great teams (and overachieving teams) have strong leadership. Although, I cant help to think that Te'o is going to be the natural leader for this team. Plus, he(crist) will have the benefit of walking into a jump started program, rather than having to establish a program like Clausen and company have had to endure.

Crist reminds me of Quinn. 'Nuff said. He's gonna be good.

 

[GO IRISH!!!]

Let me just start by saying I am a big Crist fan. However, to say that he is going to be so much better than Clausen is a tough call to make at this point. Make those predictions after this coming year.

Brady Quinn rewrote the record books at ND. Clausen's numbers after two seasons are virtually identical to Quinn's in just about every category. If Clausen has a junior year even close to the one Quinn had, he is going to be well on his way up among the all time leaders at ND. Therefore, saying Crist is going to be so much better than Clausen is, at this point, like saying Crist is going to be as good or better than Quinn. You can't really make that judgement yet.

I am not saying he won't. I just think that is a very tall order for a young man who has yet to take a snap in a game yet. This coming year will be telling for Jimmy's legacy. I hope he keeps on pace with Quinn's numbers. If that happens, we are going to be tough to beat. Plus, there is a good chance that Jimmy will use all his eligibility which would only mean Dayne would have two years left to play. He may be able to have great single season marks, but he is going to be hard pressed to crack the career leaders lists.

 

[Honey Nut Irish]

I think he is just as talented as Clausen, in fact probably more so. What he lacks at this point is experience. He will be great after Clausen graduates though.

Jimmy is not much of a leader. He has talent, but I haven't seen him take control like Brady did. Hopefully Dayne can provide that leadership when its his turn.

Look at Tebow, he is a great example. He is the heart and soul of the Gators. Thats what we got from Quinn, and that is what this team really lacks right now. That is where Jimmy really needs to mature and fill that void. Big numbers are good from a qb, but every great team needs a leader.

 

[ACamp1900]

I am sure the best player will get the starting spot.... SOOooo the better Daune is the better Jimmy will have to be... period

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

...Here's a case in point: Earlier in the spring, when Crist was under center, the running game wouldn't work. Why? Christ kept misidentifying for the line who the MIKE LB was. That is crucial for the line to know, but Crist was confused every time the defense showed him a new look...

Interesting point. But shouldn't the line know where to go? I'm thinking this post confirms my opinion that the offense is too much of a "thinking one" rather than a "knock some heads" one.

Of course I have always stated that youth has been a problem...

Youth will no longer be a problem, but "thinking" still seems to be a problem.

CW needs to spread the thinking beyond the qb. Hey folks, linemen are smart guys.

That's just my impression, but I am sure Coachjohnson has a bit more insight...

 

[Clausen2Kamara]

I think Dayne is going to be a great one...He has the skills but you can not compare him to anybody yet. He has not seen a legitimate down and until he does, I won't compare him to anybody. I think JC can take a big step forward this season in terms of his leadership and decision making. It's going to be a make or break year for JC and the Irish. I love Dayne's attitude though. Very impressive young man. You can tell that JC knows how talented Crist is.

 

[IRISHFBFAN1]

Crist is looking much better and is a great leader. However, as was already stated, he is far behind Jimmy right now. JC's accuracy, experience, and knowledge of the offense is what is separating the 2 right now.

Here's a case in point: Earlier in the spring, when Crist was under center, the running game wouldn't work. Why? Christ kept misidentifying for the line who the MIKE LB was. That is crucial for the line to know, but Crist was confused every time the defense showed him a new look. That's why experience is so crucial at he QB position, and why it was laughable when people were screaming for Crist to play last year, when he was even less prepared.

Crist will be great for us, but not yet, not now...

excellent post! I am with you, I coached football on the high school level and college level for 20 years, and you are exactly right about identifying the mike backer, critical to the offensive line!

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

excellent post! I am with you, I coached football on the high school level and college level for 20 years, and you are exactly right about identifying the mike backer, critical to the offensive line!

Which side did you coach, and which offenses are you familiar with?

 

[NDsuperfan09]

Look at Tebow, he is a great example. He is the heart and soul of the Gators. Thats what we got from Quinn, and that is what this team really lacks right now. That is where Jimmy really needs to mature and fill that void. Big numbers are good from a qb, but every great team needs a leader.

Tebow is maybe the best leader from the QB position ever in college football, thats a lopsided comparison for almost any college QB to ever play the game.

 

[SoCalDomer]

Tebow is maybe the best leader from the QB position ever in college football, thats a lopsided comparison for almost any college QB to ever play the game.

what a load of crap.

it is sheer lunacy to compare one current player to all players of all time. especially when the media has purposefully planted its lips firmly on the ass of said player. this is the same logic that leads people today to think Clinton was one of the greatest presidents of all time. "what have you done for me lately?"

 

[Irishlew]

I think he is just as talented as Clausen, in fact probably more so. What he lacks at this point is experience. He will be great after Clausen graduates though.

Jimmy is not much of a leader. He has talent, but I haven't seen him take control like Brady did. Hopefully Dayne can provide that leadership when its his turn.

Look at Tebow, he is a great example. He is the heart and soul of the Gators. Thats what we got from Quinn, and that is what this team really lacks right now. That is where Jimmy really needs to mature and fill that void. Big numbers are good from a qb, but every great team needs a leader.

LMAO...i'm not the biggest Clausen believer, but your whole past made me laugh. I am however a huge Quinn fan, and i would say Jimmy was 100X the leader Quinn was his Sophomore year. The players seem to love Jimmy and he has a swagger that is contagious (see Hawaii Bowl). Lets all judge Jimmy from this year. last year his main targets were a true Freshman TE, a true Freshman WR, and a Sophomore WR. This team has much more experience now, and by all accounts (even Weis) has said Jimmy is ahead of Brady going into their Junior years.

PS

Fuck Tim Tebow.

 

[irishfan]

Even if he cant identify the mike, the center should..he should be dictating assignments that will go down the line. What do I know tho? Anyways, Crist hopefully will be good, even tho I enjoy the comments, it does seem to be a little premature. It will be interesting to see him in mop-up/blowout duty, then we will see how he actually can handle himself.

 

[NDsuperfan09]

what a load of crap.

it is sheer lunacy to compare one current player to all players of all time. especially when the media has purposefully planted its lips firmly on the ass of said player. this is the same logic that leads people today to think Clinton was one of the greatest presidents of all time. "what have you done for me lately?"

I never said he was one of the best college QB's but the best leader from the QB position. I'm not a Tebow fan by any means and yes the media kisses his ass but denying his leadership abilities is downright insane.

 

[NDsuperfan09]

This team has much more experience now, and by all accounts (even Weis) has said Jimmy is ahead of Brady going into their Junior years.

Where did Weis say this?

 

[Irishlew]

Where did Weis say this?

heard it here from another poster, may not be accurate. i will do my best to find the quote though.

 

[SoCalDomer]

I never said he was one of the best college QB's but the best leader from the QB position. I'm not a Tebow fan by any means and yes the media kisses his ass but denying his leadership abilities is downright insane.

I never said you said he was the best QB, but you did say he was the best QB leader ever. read your own words:

Tebow is maybe the best leader from the QB position ever in college football, thats a lopsided comparison for almost any college QB to ever play the game.

you said the best QB leader ever. that's a load of crap. but what do i know, i'm insane. when you come up for air from licking tebow's balls, maybe you can loosen my straight jacket.

i'll take insane anyday over asnine hyperbole based on the current popular tide of feelings.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

Even if he cant identify the mike, the center should..he should be dictating assignments that will go down the line. What do I know tho? Anyways, Crist hopefully will be good, even tho I enjoy the comments, it does seem to be a little premature. It will be interesting to see him in mop-up/blowout duty, then we will see how he actually can handle himself.

Nice.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Even if he cant identify the mike, the center should..he should be dictating assignments that will go down the line. What do I know tho? Anyways, Crist hopefully will be good, even tho I enjoy the comments, it does seem to be a little premature. It will be interesting to see him in mop-up/blowout duty, then we will see how he actually can handle himself.

I always thought that too, that the center makes the reads for the line. But the past couple of years, t.v. stations have been miking the QB's, and you can hear several of them, even in the pros, calling out the Mike LB. It's clear as day. I remember 2 years ago, when the Pats played the Colts, you could hear both Peyton and Brady going through their pre-snap reads. In with Brady, you could hear him identify the Mike every single time. Same thing w/ Clausen this past year. You could clearly hear him yell out who was the Mike LB every single time. Maybe it is a New England thing???

Regardless, (and I'm clearly no expert on the offensive line) but in this offense, it seems that the QB identifies the all-important Mike LB. Crist needs to get a handle on that, which I'm sure he will, with time. As much as I can't wait to see Crist, I hope to God that JC has a great year AND stays his senior year. There's a reason why Carroll begged Sanchez to stay and cried like a bi*** when he decided to leave, despite having 3 5* QB's waitin gin the wings. Talent + Experience = one helluva QB to lead a team...

 

[Honey Nut Irish]

You can hate on Tebow all you want. I really can't stand the guy. I was just using him as an example of a guy who can flat out just will his team to victory.

But I do know Jimmy pussed out at some key times last season, like when the game was on the line at NC, and before the game at the Coliseum the poor guy shat his pants. Where was his confidence then? This year he better grow a pair. He is not here just to look pretty and diddle the ladies. He is here to win games. Yes I know "he was young," well that is no longer an excuse this season. Judgment day is upon us boys.

 

[Irishlew]

You can hate on Tebow all you want. I really can't stand the guy. I was just using him as an example of a guy who can flat out just will his team to victory.

But I do know Jimmy pussed out at some key times last season, like when the game was on the line at NC, and before the game at the Coliseum the poor guy shat his pants. Where was his confidence then? This year he better grow a pair. He is not here just to look pretty and diddle the ladies. He is here to win games. Yes I know "he was young," well that is no longer an excuse this season. Judgment day is upon us boys.

exactly...that was pretty much my point.