"Credibly Accused"

[IrishLax]

Not sure when it happened, but this is the new way to paint someone as guilty on an unproven allegation. Basically, you have a party subjectively deem an allegation "credible" under the guise of it not being able to be disproved. Then you repeat this claim ad nauseum until it sounds like it's a reasonable assumption that the accused is guilty.

With Kavanagh, you now have a guy who has had some allegations definitively proven untrue. And one of the recent NY Times "bombshell" new allegations is denied by the very person it allegedly happened to.

So you have two claims remaining:
-Ford's, where her friend who was supposed to corroborate it did not despite immense pressure to. And where there is no evidence whatsoever.
-Ramirez's, where there was a room full of people and not a single one corroborates it. And of course, the decades old claim has no evidence like Fords

So two uncorroborated, unverified, decades old allegations that were never reported to authorities. No evidence. No witnesses. No reason whatsoever to believe them except that they said it happened.

This is what a "credible allegation" looks like. Be careful when you see this term used in the media. Kamala Harris thought the allegations made by Jussie Smollett were quite credible, too.

 

[BGIF]

Not sure when it happened, but this is the new way to paint someone as guilty on an unproven allegation. ...

Nothing new here. As old as mankind. Bearing false witness is one of the Ten Commandments for good reason.

Herr Goebbels would be proud of the tactics the Democrats (and others) use.


"Communists Burned The Reichstag!"

Jefferson and Adams vilified each other with "anonymous" pamphlets. Jefferson accused Adams of being a hermaphrodite hundreds. (Did Adams use the transgender outhouse?)

Henry VIII crimes of treason charges against his wives.

Thomas More "Trial"

Joan of Arc "Trial"

Centuries of Intrigue in the Roman Senate

Allegations against Christ in Pilate's judgement.


Watch:

1939's "Mr Smith Goes To Washington" while Jimmy Stewart's filibustering, "The Machine" back home is planting discrediting stories in their controlled papers and radio stations. It was a movie utilizing common tactics.

1964's "The Best Man" with Henry Fonda with various candidates getting "the dirt", real or innuendo, on the others.

1962's "Advise and Consent", A treatise on the U.S. Senate's Confirmation Process.


The Nazi's "The Jews are GUILTY!" So what's new there? For 2000 years the Catholic Church (and the protestors) reminded the faithful around the world at every Easter Midnight Mass ... that the Jews did do it! "Let it be on us and upon our children"



“It would not be impossible to prove with sufficient repetition and a psychological understanding of the people concerned that a square is in fact a circle. They are mere words, and words can be molded until they clothe ideas and disguise.”
― Joseph Goebbels

“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over.”
― Joseph Goebbels

Propaganda should be popular, not intellectually pleasing. It is not the task of propaganda to discover intellectual truths.”
― Joseph Goebbels

“That propaganda is good which leads to success, and that is bad which fails to achieve the desired result. It is not propaganda’s task to be intelligent, its task is to lead to success.”
― Joseph Goebbels

 

[IrishLax]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The New York Times reporters who wrote the smear article on Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh say that they included the information that the woman did not remember the incident ever happening in their article but that the editors removed it <a href="https://t.co/s8bwGzrrdd">pic.twitter.com/s8bwGzrrdd</a></p>— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1173807456545148928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is what “credibly accused” looks like in 2019.

 

[Legacy]

Now Archdioceses are using the term?

Clergy Credibly Accused of Sexual Abuse of Minors

List of Credibly Accused Clergy in the Diocese of Providence

 

[zelezo vlk]

Dioceses have been using that term for quite some time, not just after Kavanaugh

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[IrishLax]

Dioceses have been using that term for quite some time, not just after Kavanaugh

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I’d actually really like to know when it first started being adopted and by who. It seems to have exploded in usage since the Kav hearing.

 

[drayer54]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HeZiKvOA0o&feature=share

Here’s the Tara Reade interview. Not sure how anyone could not believe her.

 

[Irishize]

60 Minutes Australia deems this relevant but not the 60 Minutes in America where it actually has relevance to the upcoming election.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Opponent of the opponent. A former staffer of <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBiden?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JoeBiden</a> reveals why the Democrat candidate should never be President. SUNDAY on <a href="https://twitter.com/Channel9?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Channel9</a>, Tara Reade speaks exclusively to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/60Mins?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#60Mins</a> about claims Biden sexually assaulted her. <a href="https://t.co/pDkCIgycHV">pic.twitter.com/pDkCIgycHV</a></p>— 60 Minutes Australia (@60Mins) <a href="https://twitter.com/60Mins/status/1311561576189587456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[drayer54]

60 Minutes Australia deems this relevant but not the 60 Minutes in America where it actually has relevance to the upcoming election.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Opponent of the opponent. A former staffer of <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBiden?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JoeBiden</a> reveals why the Democrat candidate should never be President. SUNDAY on <a href="https://twitter.com/Channel9?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Channel9</a>, Tara Reade speaks exclusively to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/60Mins?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#60Mins</a> about claims Biden sexually assaulted her. <a href="https://t.co/pDkCIgycHV">pic.twitter.com/pDkCIgycHV</a></p>— 60 Minutes Australia (@60Mins) <a href="https://twitter.com/60Mins/status/1311561576189587456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The American press is so far in the tank for the Dems that they can't see straight.

 

[Irish YJ]

The American press is so far in the tank for the Dems that they can't see straight.

Yea, and really twilight zone stuff 60 Minutes would even allow their Aussie wing to air it. 60 Minutes in the US has been so far in the tank for a long for a long time. Guessing the Aussies have total control over content.

 

[IrishLax]

The American press is so far in the tank for the Dems that they can't see straight.

It's funny, I made this thread because of people being unfair to Kavanagh based on a decades old allegation.

Are you actually suggesting that Tara Reade -- a confirmed fraudster, with significant inconsistencies in her stories and conflicting accounts -- should be given more air time than she already received? Nevermind that she is also a pro-Putin Russian plant.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tara Reade, in 2019, after spending much of 2017 attacking Putin, and praising Biden, defends Putin for murdering journalists and people who speak out against him. Why did she suddenly change her views on Putin, just as she began accusing Joe Biden of sexual misconduct? (thread) <a href="https://t.co/k5BBX9p7wf">pic.twitter.com/k5BBX9p7wf</a></p>— Mrs. Krassenstein (@HKrassenstein) <a href="https://twitter.com/HKrassenstein/status/1255474971897364483?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Meanwhile, Trump has been accused of sexual assault in over two dozens separate instances and is currently fighting a DNA test but you're here to talk about how Tara Reade not getting air time means that the media is "in the tank" for the Dems. Come on....

 

[IrishLax]

60 Minutes Australia deems this relevant but not the 60 Minutes in America where it actually has relevance to the upcoming election.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Opponent of the opponent. A former staffer of <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBiden?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JoeBiden</a> reveals why the Democrat candidate should never be President. SUNDAY on <a href="https://twitter.com/Channel9?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Channel9</a>, Tara Reade speaks exclusively to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/60Mins?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#60Mins</a> about claims Biden sexually assaulted her. <a href="https://t.co/pDkCIgycHV">pic.twitter.com/pDkCIgycHV</a></p>— 60 Minutes Australia (@60Mins) <a href="https://twitter.com/60Mins/status/1311561576189587456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yea, and really twilight zone stuff 60 Minutes would even allow their Aussie wing to air it. 60 Minutes in the US has been so far in the tank for a long for a long time. Guessing the Aussies have total control over content.

Guys, the reason "the media" isn't covering this more is that they *already covered* it in depth back in May and there is nothing else to report. This includes TV interviews with her. Everyone knows her allegations. Everyone also knows her history, conflicting accounts that don't pass the sniff test, and questionable Putin links. There is no new "news" to report, everything was already reported on.

 

[Irishize]

Guys, the reason "the media" isn't covering this more is that they *already covered* it in depth back in May and there is nothing else to report. This includes TV interviews with her. Everyone knows her allegations. Everyone also knows her history, conflicting accounts that don't pass the sniff test, and questionable Putin links. There is no new "news" to report, everything was already reported on.

Which is my point. I AGREE that it’s a non-issue. But if we follow the Left’s “rules”, you shoot first & ask questions later. Look what they did to Kavanaugh and it was all debunked. I would hazard a guess that there are still posters on this board who think he’s a rapist. That’s one of the worst things a person can be falsely accused of. One poster even stated (I’m paraphrasing) “what’s the big deal...the guy is a SCOTUS justice now”. Seriously? Look what the Left has done over the years to accomplished jurists like Bork, Thomas & Kavanaugh. Now ask yourself how many Dem nominated justices were smeared to the point that their name is tarnished forever.

I don’t think Biden is guilty of whatever Reade is alleging but no fair-minded person can say it was given the same treatment if Biden had been a Republican. Hell, the MSM & Left would re-elect Bill Clinton in a heartbeat if they could. But Trump is the only monster. Like YJ said, it’s so obvious but if you point that out you’re called a MAGA or assumed to be a biased Republican. Horseshit, the media is no better than Trump when it comes to trustworthiness, character, morals, fairness, etc.

 

[IrishLax]

Which is my point. I AGREE that it’s a non-issue. But if we follow the Left’s “rules”, you shoot first & ask questions later. Look what they did to Kavanaugh and it was all debunked. I would hazard a guess that there are still posters on this board who think he’s a rapist. That’s one of the worst things a person can be falsely accused of. One poster even stated (I’m paraphrasing) “what’s the big deal...the guy is a SCOTUS justice now”. Seriously? Look what the Left has done over the years to accomplished jurists like Bork, Thomas & Kavanaugh. Now ask yourself how many Dem nominated justices were smeared to the point that their name is tarnished forever.

Gotcha, I misunderstood your point.

 

[Irish YJ]

Guys, the reason "the media" isn't covering this more is that they *already covered* it in depth back in May and there is nothing else to report. This includes TV interviews with her. Everyone knows her allegations. Everyone also knows her history, conflicting accounts that don't pass the sniff test, and questionable Putin links. There is no new "news" to report, everything was already reported on.

My point is more about (1) the Left's propensity to keep the dead alive, and (2) why is it fit for consumption in Australia and not here?


To 1 above, heck, we're still hearing about Trump/Russian collusion lol.

As far as it passing the sniff test, it sniffs a whole lot better than a lot of things covered these days.

 

[Irishize]

Gotcha, I misunderstood your point.

No worries. Communicating on msg boards, texts & emails can be interpreted differently