Coaches shouldn't be allowed to vote...

maison bleu · Nov 29, 2006

Here's Frank Beamer's All-American ballot, featuring six Hokies. Yes, that's right: six AAs on a team that didn't even win its division in the crappy ACC.

tedwick · Nov 29, 2006

well, who should we get to vote then? the completely unbiased media? US!? i mean, there's going to be bias everywhere. it's just something you have to roll with.

and in beamer's defense, his defense isn't bad, and while not all americans, their linebackers are darn good. and two others are an OL and a PK, very meh all american positions.

maison bleu · Nov 29, 2006

tedwick said:
well, who should we get to vote then? the completely unbiased media? US!? i mean, there's going to be bias everywhere. it's just something you have to roll with.

and in beamer's defense, his defense isn't bad, and while not all americans, their linebackers are darn good. and two others are an OL and a PK, very meh all american positions.

Let coaches vote, but don't let them vote for there own players.

mirertobrooks · Nov 29, 2006

Good point Maison

mirertobrooks · Nov 29, 2006

B.S. This isn't a f-ing all-star game voting voucher at Wrigley Field. That sucks.

tedwick · Nov 29, 2006

maison bleu said:
Let coaches vote, but don't let them vote for there own players.

good point.

BestBIrish47 · Nov 29, 2006

Conflict Of Interest

Conflict Of Interest

College football is great and I love it....but I hate how these coaches get to make these choices based on their conference ties....personal gain in recruiting....it makes a traditional college football fan want some change in the processes. I hate the fact a playoff would take the urgency of winning every week out of college football. I would hate to see a 3 loss national champion..... but is a playoff with controlled voting of all america a good thing for college football?? We coudn't let the fans vote....all the SEC would lose out...they can't figure out how to type on that TV modem thing that their kids get porn on.....to vote!!!

Irish Envy · Nov 29, 2006

I didn't see a whole helluva lot wrong with his ballot to be honest.

LOVEMYIRISH · Nov 29, 2006

mirertobrooks said:
B.S. This isn't a f-ing all-star game voting voucher at Wrigley Field. That sucks.

Agreed...if they can't be honest, they should not vote.

maison bleu · Nov 29, 2006

Svoboda said:
I didn't see a whole helluva lot wrong with his ballot to be honest.

There are 24 spots on the AA team, right? the 22 usual suspects and two special teamers, I think...

So 25% of the top 24 players in the nation are on one above average team? How can that be remotely true?

If it is, the other 18 starters on VT must REALLY suck.

LOVEMYIRISH · Nov 29, 2006

maison bleu said:
There are 24 spots on the AA team, right? the 22 usual suspects and two special teamers, I think...

So 25% of the top 24 players in the nation are on one above average team? How can that be remotely true?

If it is, the other 18 starters on VT must REALLY suck.

Yeah, I kinda struggle with that. Honestly, though I hate them, USC would be the ONE team who could REMOTELY pretend to have that many AA's...but even they don't.

isotopes · Nov 29, 2006

Yes it's biased, but at some positions you feel you really know a kid and his potential and what effort and ability he gives you day in and out and probably are more so inclined to vote him over kids you don't see all that much about. I'm sure you see a similar situation on ballots from other top tier programs....most likely worse at some places

maison bleu · Nov 29, 2006

isotopes said:
Yes it's biased, but at some positions you feel you really know a kid and his potential and what effort and ability he gives you day in and out and probably are more so inclined to vote him over kids you don't see all that much about. I'm sure you see a similar situation on ballots from other top tier programs....most likely worse at some places

Which is EXACTLY why coaches shouldn't be allowed to vote for their own players.

Pete · Nov 29, 2006

maison bleu said:
Let coaches vote, but don't let them vote for there own players.

Even MLB won't allow managers to vote for their own players for golden gloves.

isotopes · Nov 29, 2006

Sorry I should have prefaced that with " I agree they shouldn't be allowed to vote for their own players"

moc182 · Nov 30, 2006

I dont think it's that outlandish, their defense is absolutely loaded.

LOVEMYIRISH · Nov 30, 2006

moc182 said:
I dont think it's that outlandish, their defense is absolutely loaded.

So 25% of the BEST players in College Football are ALL on VT's team?

Cmon.

ACamp1900 · Nov 30, 2006

LOVEMYIRISH said:
Yeah, I kinda struggle with that. Honestly, though I hate them, USC would be the ONE team who could REMOTELY pretend to have that many AA's...but even they don't.

Somewhere Mike Garrett is reading this thread and thinking... "Damn Right!!! Let's put up another banner!!!"

LOVEMYIRISH · Nov 30, 2006

ACamp1900 said:
Somewhere Mike Garrett is reading this thread and thinking... "Damn Right!!! Let's put up another banner!!!"

hahahahahahahaha

ACamp1900 · Nov 30, 2006

LOVEMYIRISH said:
hahahahahahahaha

He's also thinkin, "ABC/ESPN has gone along with all of my other 'titles'... why not?"

Sorry man, Couldn't help it after saturday's "program braekdown's"

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