Okay, I was pretty sure they were going to delete my one post in this thread which was meant to point out the waste of otherwise good men arguing about such utter nonsense.
What do I mean about utter nonsense?
Since the Civil War Americans have inexplicably embraced being turned against each other by any in a position of power; first it was done with food and housing, then jobs, then better jobs, and more opportunity, then ****ing chicken sandwiches. It is all much more esoteric in nature these days.
I hope this post stands. I feel I have the right to say what I am about to say, because I have paid the price.
I had a lot of respect for most of you on this site, but I have to tell you, I am not going to read any more crap. People spouting off scriptures, telling off color gay jokes, like the one about the two gay Irishmen, Gerald Fitzpatrick and Patrick Fitzgerald; it is all too much.
I had a friend, who had a couple of friends, who were privy to the troubles in Northern Ireland. Stirred their finger in the pot as they used to say smiling. Now one was Oxford and the other Cambridge educated; these men were brilliant. They came over to our country quietly and were gaging the support they may expect from this country. I asked them point blank what they though of us over here. They went on and on about what wonderful things they found. I told them I was really interested in what they thought of the Irish diaspora, other than that is was imense. Their answer shocked me; they were really not pleased.
They brought up Boston and bussing, etc. (This was a while ago.) They couldn't believe the way we treat others over here, after all, they said, "Everybody's [got] their own troubles." I have never forgotten that, from these men who you may find in a history book, some day.
Proof that one is turned against another:
Longshoremen Irish and African American forced to compete against each other for wages in the 1800's. This forced competition remained in effect until the manufacturing reqired to feed the military during Second World War required every able body. It was reinstituted with redlining in the housing market less than a dozen years later.
Deal with the devil, the Pope and George III shook hands and the National Seminary at Maynooth was built, and the most severe of the Penal Acts, the four shillings reward for the head of Roman priests, attached or unattached, was repealed.
Scotts Irish: this is a made up group of people that somehow wanted to show themselves above shanty (Fightin') Irish.
Roe versus Wade, and immediately you have wonderful devoted religious people being turned against wonderful hard suffering womens rights people. These peoples arguements are not diametrically opposed. Exploitation and a lack of understanding has created that preception in all of our minds!
It goes on and on. Stories about ethnic groupsacial groups, homosexuals, womens rights groups, all twisted to justify ancient tribal anger. The common result is to keep the same imoral leadership in power, or in today's corporate enviornment, sell more chicken sandwiches.
Me, I pick college football, you can keep your name calling, small character pevish petty natures, your chicken sandwiches; I PICK COLLEGE FOOTBALL! Téigh Gaeilge!