Breaking down ND/OU

[koonja]

2005? USC #1, ND #9?

 

[Downinthebend]

2005? USC #1, ND #9?

We wouldn't have been in the title race with that win, If we win we're home free till USC

 

[koonja]

We wouldn't have been in the title race with that win, If we win we're home free till USC

We might have made the title game if we won that game. In fact, I remember Woody Paige saying we'd be in the title game if we beat USC and won out.

#1 vs. #9 is bigger than #5 vs. #8 imo, but I know what you mean.

 

[Black Irish]

My take is that ND needs a plan A, B, & C, especially on offense. It would be great if the Irish can pound the RBs all day and eat lots of time. But if run gets stymied, Coach Kelly needs to have Golson ready to spread the ball around the field. I'm no expert, but my gut tells me that Kelly will need to go deep into the playbook and keep OU's defense guessing.

As far as the Irish D goes, as much as I want to see them get after Jones, I don't want them to get beat for short and medium pass plays because they are bringing extra pressure. The LBs who play pass need to be extra sharp.

I'm so glad I have off for this game. I probably won't even drink that much because I anticipate a lot yelling, hopefully positive, and jumping around.

 

[Downinthebend]

We might have made the title game if we won that game. In fact, I remember Woody Paige saying we'd be in the title game if we beat USC and won out.

#1 vs. #9 is bigger than #5 vs. #8 imo, but I know what you mean.

Just reminded myself of how many undefeated teams were left that year (two, usc,texas). It was very possible that we make the title game if we won that game.

Even given that.

in 2005 we were 4-1 facing 5-0 USC. This year we are 7-0 facing 6-1 (?) Oklahoma. This is the bigger game.

 

[McGlovin]

I think it's the biggest game in my lifetime simply because it's indicative that BK has ND ready to compete on the National Stage, whereas the game in 2005 (USC) didn't follow the horrible end to Weis campaign in South Bend where we consistently lost to Navy and won only 3 games in a season. I guess what I'm ultimately trying to get at is that this win, and unexpected season, follows one of the darkest (if not THE darkest) time in ND football history, seemingly making it that much greater that ND could officially be back.

 

[McGlovin]

Just reminded myself of how many undefeated teams were left that year (two, usc,texas). It was very possible that we make the title game if we won that game.

Even given that.

in 2005 we were 4-1 facing 5-0 USC. This year we are 7-0 facing 6-1 (?) Oklahoma. This is the bigger game.

I totaly agree. In the 2005 USC game, ND was still considered a "national contender", whereas it's safe to say that many (if not all) don't consider ND a serious contender for the NC anymore. This game on Saturday could prove that BK has ND not only moving in the right direction, but in serious contention for the National Title in 2012. Man, I'm fired up!

 

[Crazy Balki]

OU is on their high horse right now, and even though ND is 7-0, no one outside of ND fans are giving them a shot. Afterall, primetime against Oklahoma in Norman? That's rough.

HOWEVER, there's a good couple of things going for ND coming into this game:

Oklahoma is averaging 52 points in the last 3 games, against Texas Tech, Texas and Kansas. Unfortunately for them, ND has a better defense than all of those teams combined and 3x over.
Oklahoma hasn't played a defense this talented and ruthless. You talk about balance on the OU offense. ND can take that away pretty quickly. ND can stuff the run from the word go, and they have some of the nation's best pass rushers in Tuitt, Kap and Prince. Meanwhile, everyone is concerned about the ND offense, and how they haven't scored much recently. They forget to mention that ND has faced some of the countries best defenses in BYU, Stanford and Michigan State. In addition, ND is coming off a game where ND ran for over 270 yards against BYU's top 5 rushing defense. OU has faced a better offense, but not a better RB tandem in Wood, GAIII and Riddick.

Here's my opinion on how it'll go down:

ND is not satisfied, that was made blatantly clear in the interviews with Manti and BK. You could smell the frustration with that game, because they didn't play up to their potential. That anger is gonna reach a boiling point and Manti will have his D-boys ready for Boomer Sooner. Open up the game and pop them in the mouth and shut them up in the 1st quarter. Landry Jones will get harassed early and often. At least one of the Irish RB's will run for 100+ yards and ND will get the win:

Notre Dame 27 Oklahoma 17

 

[Downinthebend]

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[NoJusticeNoPeace]

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Completely agree.

 

[stlnd01]

Hmmmm maybe you should pay more attention to Texas Tech because they have a fantastic D.

A fantastic D? Texas Tech gave up 53 points to TCU on Saturday. Notre Dame hasn't given up 53 points in its last five games put together.
This'll be a tough game. We'll need our best offensive performance of the season and even then I worry about our ability to disrupt Oklahoma's quick passing game. But let's not get carried away about what OU has accomplished so far. They've beaten Texas and that's about it.

 

[Downinthebend]

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[jason_h537]

Just reminded myself of how many undefeated teams were left that year (two, usc,texas). It was very possible that we make the title game if we won that game.

Even given that.

in 2005 we were 4-1 facing 5-0 USC. This year we are 7-0 facing 6-1 (?) Oklahoma. This is the bigger game.

Notre Dame would have played Texas in the NC game if they had beaten USC

 

[ClausentoTate]

Just watched the Texas game.

If they think they are going to be able to run over/through us like they did to UT they are mistaken. Texas' defense might legitimately be worse than Miami's.

Every single touchdown in the first half was either a big play or resulted from a big play, almost exclusively due to missed tackles after short passes or basic runs. I stopped counting at 25 missed tackles, before the half. OU threw nothing deep and were very predictable in the redzone. We need to stop Bell, because he's running and it will take more than an arm to get him down. OU was helped by their D creating multiple turnovers and bad QB play by Ash.

Second half had more passing, some good special teams, but by then UT was demoralized and down by 40. Hard to get a gauge at that point.

The holes were wide open for their backs all game. I think we win this on first and second down D. If we can get pressure with 3 or 4 linemen, we have a chance. Their up-tempo offense won't catch us off-guard because that's how the team runs practice.

Their defense looked solid against UT, which coincidentally has a run game but no passing game, similar to us. I still think they will have their hands full. I really hope we can move the ball effectively.

 

[OU_Sooners75]

Some of you crack me up.

How many top 50 offenses has ND faced?

I wonder if NDs defense looks so stout because they haven't played any good offenses?

You all are quick to point out how OUs offense looks great because they haven't played any good defenses. So sure it works both ways?

 

[JughedJones]

Some of you crack me up.

How many top 50 offenses has ND faced?

I wonder if NDs defense looks so stout because they haven't played any good offenses?

You all are quick to point out how OUs offense looks great because they haven't played any good defenses. So sure it works both ways?

This site is so welcoming to fans of other teams. They come on here and talk their "Some of you crack me up" mess then leave, never to be heard from again after we curb stomp their favorite squads.

Just sayin' Boomer, you ain't the first.

 

[OU_Sooners75]

This site is so welcoming to fans of other teams. They come on here and talk their "Some of you crack me up" mess then leave, never to be heard from again after we curb stomp their favorite squads.

Just sayin' Boomer, you ain't the first.

Nor are you the first fan base to come to Norman thinking OU isn't all that good. Or thinkingOU is overhyped and hasn't played anyone.

Let me just say this, OU is not Stanford. OU is not Michigan. And OU damn sure isn't a BYU.

Misleading yourself to believe that OU hasn't played any good defenses, is much like you all believing that you have played good offenses.

We will find out this Saturday. And if going to the game I hope you all have a great time.

But don't be surprised if ND leaves with their tail between their legs like so many other ranked teams have under Stoops.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Nor are you the first fan base to come to Norman thinking OU isn't all that good. Or thinkingOU is overhyped and hasn't played anyone.

Let me just say this, OU is not Stanford. OU is not Michigan. And OU damn sure isn't a BYU.

Misleading yourself to believe that OU hasn't played any good defenses, is much like you all believing that you have played good offenses.

We will find out this Saturday. And if going to the game I hope you all have a great time.

But don't be surprised if ND leaves with their tail between their legs like so many other ranked teams have under Stoops.

Ask Sam Bradford how he feels about BYU.

I fully expect OU to win this game convincingly, but let's not act like Oklahoma is the greatest thing since sliced bread. There is always a bigger fish.

 

[JughedJones]

Nor are you the first fan base to come to Norman thinking OU isn't all that good. Or thinkingOU is overhyped and hasn't played anyone.

Let me just say this, OU is not Stanford. OU is not Michigan. And OU damn sure isn't a BYU.

Misleading yourself to believe that OU hasn't played any good defenses, is much like you all believing that you have played good offenses.

We will find out this Saturday. And if going to the game I hope you all have a great time.

But don't be surprised if ND leaves with their tail between their legs like so many other ranked teams have under Stoops.

I never said any of that laser.. I just meant that jerkoff fans from all types of teams have come onto this site and talked smack... and we rarely see any of them again after their teams get stomped.

 

[OU_Sooners75]

Win, lose, or draw, ill be here.

If OU wins, I won't come here looking for people to eat crow. UNLESS there is any one person being over the top (which I haven't seen yet).

If OU loses, I will be here to congratulate ND.

Unlike that news article from the Daily Oklahoman, I don't hate ND. I respect their historic past and significance to the sport.

But I damn sure want OU to beat ND. I'm sick of looking at the 1-8 record vs. Notre Dame.

 

[ickythump1225]

Nor are you the first fan base to come to Norman thinking OU isn't all that good. Or thinkingOU is overhyped and hasn't played anyone.

Let me just say this, OU is not Stanford. OU is not Michigan. And OU damn sure isn't a BYU.

Misleading yourself to believe that OU hasn't played any good defenses, is much like you all believing that you have played good offenses.

We will find out this Saturday. And if going to the game I hope you all have a great time.

But don't be surprised if ND leaves with their tail between their legs like so many other ranked teams have under Stoops.

No y'all did play a good defense and that was Kansas State...you lost...but you did play a good defense. OU may not be BYU but we're damn sure not UTEP or Florida A&M.

 

[OU_Sooners75]

I guess the number 1 defense in the confernce gets overlooked since OU went there and beat the crap out of them?


Talking about Texas Techs defense.


So now I ask you....what offenses have you played that can be considered top ranked?

OU has played against 3 top 10 offenses. How many has ND played that are in the top 50?

Like I said, some of you here are quick to point out how many average defenses we have faced. But that type of question can be flipped to ask how many top notch offenses you have face. To show you how many average offenses you all have faced.

Do I think ND defense is average? Not at all. I think they are very good.
Do I think ND will completely shutdown the OU offense? Heck no. But unlike any offense you all have faced, we can actually do well with whatever the defense gives us.


And then you bring up KSU. Yes they beat us. But not because their team was just so much better. In fact if you watched that game, you would know OU was able to drive on their defense. Came away with 2 fgs, and a fumble by Blake Bell that killed a would be TD.

So don't sit there and act as if KSU shut down OU. Mistakes by OU led to that loss.

 

[ThePiombino]

I guess the number 1 defense in the confernce gets overlooked since OU went there and beat the crap out of them?


Talking about Texas Techs defense.


So now I ask you....what offenses have you played that can be considered top ranked?

OU has played against 3 top 10 offenses. How many has ND played that are in the top 50?

Like I said, some of you here are quick to point out how many average defenses we have faced. But that type of question can be flipped to ask how many top notch offenses you have face. To show you how many average offenses you all have faced.

Do I think ND defense is average? Not at all. I think they are very good.
Do I think ND will completely shutdown the OU offense? Heck no. But unlike any offense you all have faced, we can actually do well with whatever the defense gives us.


And then you bring up KSU. Yes they beat us. But not because their team was just so much better. In fact if you watched that game, you would know OU was able to drive on their defense. Came away with 2 fgs, and a fumble by Blake Bell that killed a would be TD.

So don't sit there and act as if KSU shut down OU. Mistakes by OU led to that loss.

Just to be clear.. Is this a two field goal brag post?

 

[domerdude]

I guess the number 1 defense in the confernce gets overlooked since OU went there and beat the crap out of them?


Talking about Texas Techs defense.


So now I ask you....what offenses have you played that can be considered top ranked?

OU has played against 3 top 10 offenses. How many has ND played that are in the top 50?

Like I said, some of you here are quick to point out how many average defenses we have faced. But that type of question can be flipped to ask how many top notch offenses you have face. To show you how many average offenses you all have faced.

Do I think ND defense is average? Not at all. I think they are very good.
Do I think ND will completely shutdown the OU offense? Heck no. But unlike any offense you all have faced, we can actually do well with whatever the defense gives us.


And then you bring up KSU. Yes they beat us. But not because their team was just so much better. In fact if you watched that game, you would know OU was able to drive on their defense. Came away with 2 fgs, and a fumble by Blake Bell that killed a would be TD.

So don't sit there and act as if KSU shut down OU. Mistakes by OU led to that loss.

There are lies, damn lies and then there are statistics.

One of the offenses we've faced that I consider good, or better than the statistics say.

Michigan- Held to 6 points by ND and 14 by Alabama.
If I take away those two games from the Wolverines average, they have scored 39 points per game. Good enough for top 18 in the country in scoring offense.

I'm not saying that Michigan is a team of world beaters, but I am saying that them being shut down COMPLETELY by ND was something that not even Bama did so well (because we had trouble scoring). These two games larger affected their offensive statistics. It looks to me that Michigan has one of the toughest out of conference schedules, and should then win the Big Ten, this win will turn into something great for the Irish.

Texas Tech-
Lets see, could anyone in their front seven start for ND?? No chance.
They rank 34th in total D allowing an average of 21 ppg, but lets dissect that some.
Lets say against non big 12 opponents powerhouses like Northwestern State, Texas St and New Mexico... TT gave up an average of 10 ppg. Good enough to be BEHIND ND at 9.2 PPG.
Now lets look at conference opponents... OU, Iowa St, WVU and TCU. That would be an average of 33 ppg that would be good enough for 95th in the country.

Kansas St.
To be honest I did watch the replay on youtube, weeks later... I thought OU should have won the game. You said that OU was able to move the ball but made mistakes, I agree... But who made Landry Jones make those mistakes??
K State is a very well coached, fundamentally sound team. They are rarely out of position and wrap up well. ND might get caught on blown secondary coverage once or twice a game, but often have the athletic ability to adapt and overcome. Do you think anyone in their front seven would start for ND?

The fact of the matter is OU is one hell of a team, as is ND. I'm just grateful we get to see who the better team is on the field and not have to rely on F-tards down at ESPN looking at statistics to tell which team is better. If I ate up the crap that spewed from that fountain, I'd probably think stats told the whole story too.

 

[Buster Bluth]

I think you mifht be forgetting that Michigan moved the ball, with relative ease for a while too.

These young DBs have not seen a balanced apread that operates in the hurry-up yet. We all know that the Irish defense can slug it out with whomever--but that's not Oklahoma.

We just don't know how they'll respond. It's a gigantic question mark, especially in Norman of all places.

 

[GoldenBoy3]

Q: How can you tell if someone in Oklahoma is married?






A: The tobacco spit stains are on both sides of his pickup truck.

 

[GoldenBoy3]

Did you know that you can't spell Douche Bag without OU?

 

[GoldenBoy3]

Last one:

Bob Stoops, after retiring and living a full life, dies and goes to heaven. God was showing him around, and they came upon a modest little house. It had an old, faded Sooners flag in the window.

"This is yours for eternity, Bob. This is a special, not everyone gets a house up here." God told him.

... Bob felt special, indeed, and he walked up to his home. On his way up to the porch, he noticed another house around the corner. It was a 3-story mansion with an Blue and Gold sidewalk, and a 50 ft. flag pole, with a HUGE Notre Dame flag, and in every window, a Notre Dame Cheerleader.

Bob looked at God, and said, "God, I am not trying to be ungrateful,but I have a question. I was a good coach, I went to 4 consecutive bowl games, and won a national championship, and turned around their entire program."

God said, "What would you like to know, Bob?"

"Well, why does Brian Kelly get a better house than me?"

God chuckled, and said "Bob, that isn't Brian's house, it's mine."

 

[Grahambo]

OU DL vs ND OL. Can the OL hold up enough to give EG time to throw? EG needs to be a throwing QB who can run in this game. Will Jefferson line up against Eifert or is an OU LB athletic enough to stay with him? Can Riddick/Wood/GAIII wear down OU?

Exciting matchups.

 

[phork]

Has anyone introduced this dickfor to the Miami idiot? Talk about no respect. GTFO.