Okay, so you put up this post, which I will put down below, where you clearly state you are sick of hearing about grades first and don't care if a the team has a 2.0 or a 3.0
Exactly. I don't want to
HEAR about their grades. It's immaterial to what's happening on the football field. If they want to be lauded for their grades than they should go to Harvard where academics are the sole source of pride. ND has good academics, great. My cousin graduated pre-med from Notre Dame....outstanding, wonderful. When I tune into to Notre Dame football I don't want to hear about grades. I don't care. These kids are being put through school on a football scholarship and they, along with the coaches, have a duty to perform. Notre Dame isn't Florida Atlantic or Baylor. The football team isn't around to go out and get paid by the Florida's or USC's of the world to have their ass kicked. Fans invest a lot of time and money into the football team. We deserve to see a winning team.
You should root for Harvard or Yale if, as long as everyone is on the Dean's List, you don't mind seeing 0-12, 3-9 or 6-6 football teams. The last time I checked this particular area of the board is about Fighting Irish
Football not Notre Dame Student Athlete GPA's.
and then compare a university's athletic department to an accounting firm and say it's bad logic to say that a kid's first priority should be school.
Wrong again. I didn't say that was bad logic and I didn't say that school shouldn't be their first priority. I said that I don't believe that doing well in school excuses away their performance on the field. I used an analogy (
analogy definition | Dictionary.com). There are plenty of single mothers out there working forty hours a week, raising a kid and going to school. They don't make execuses.
The athletic department is a business that exists to make money. It's a de facto subsidiary of the University of Notre Dame.
So before you get all high and mighty, read your post again. Striking back at me for calling your post selfish, by saying I presume to know what you're about it just a tad bit ridiculous.
More self righteousness. I didn't think you were they type.
You are one of the guys on here who has something to say about other people's posts. Does that mean you know what they are about? Don't get all sensitive because you get called out.
Ditto.
Read your post again. Saying you don't "give a shit..." and that as long as they are passing doesn't really strike me as caring too much about grades.
I don't need to read my post again. You on the other hand....
Again, I don't want to
hear about their grades. A little blurb for some student athlete award during the game is fine. But the people who make excuses on this board--searching for any reason they can find to justify their apologetic stance--become grating.
Ask yourself, about your grades. Is it okay for you to get between a 2.0 to a 3.0, you know, as long as you are passing? It sounds like good grades are important to you, but that a football player can get lesser grades as long as they produce wins on the field. Also, just because kids lose on the field doesn't mean they aren't working hard at their "job," as you put it.
Working hard doesn't always lead to results. I know plenty of people that work their ass off but don't cut it. Same applies here. It's not an excuse. Get players who care because this team doesn't seem to be too concerned. Check for Golden Tate's quote after the Syracuse game.
If you want to post opinions on this board you need to be able to take criticism. I don't deem to know what you are about because I don't agree with your post or have an opinion on your post. Your post strikes me as selfish. You don't live the lives of these kids. You aren't going to be there when they graduate and have to get a job. If you disagree with my assessment, that's okay. Doesn't mean I think anything bad about you or anything else. Just a comment on your post. That's all.
I can take criticism--valid criticism--with
intelligent counterpoints that may actually sway my opinion. Hell, I can even take pointless criticism but the tone of my response to that kind of criticism is going to be a bit more acerbic.
