BC Postgame

[Irish8248]

No I am saying YOU don;t know what he saw
despite all your blather
and if you cannot see something that is not the QBs fault
Because YOU act like you had a camera on his helmet and YOU do not

Prove that I don't -- you can't -- therefore you don't know what you're talking about ... See how dumb that sounds? That's you every post.

I act like there are two defenders bracketing the receiver in a very very close area. That is (check notes) called double coverage. So whether he saw that or not, doesn't change anything. It's either poor vision or poor decision making on that play. The tip ball was not a main reason for the interception. If the ball was tipped and it was only single coverage, it's likely not intercepted.

Go to bed -- you've stayed up late enough

 

[Dale]

Maybe a little. He also threw into double coverage on a curl route. It wasn't his best play. It's fine. We can't rely on CJ to be perfect on every down. And like I said, if we play like this every week we're going to go far. Vaseline is deep in the back of the cabinet.

It was still double coverage duuuddde. Go to bed.

just because its double coverage is not always the whole story DUDE

Lot going on in this fight.

It wasn’t double coverage, it was either man or a variation of Quarters. Flanagan has a flare route to the sideline. His defender comes off it and steps in front of the pass for the INT.

The tip probably did nothing, CJ read man and sees Faison’s guy bailing and thinks he’s got an easy comeback route.

If it was just man it’s just a great gamble by the defender and CJ coming out a bit lazy for a 2H blowout, similar to Purdue.

 

[Irish8248]

Certainly not man, definitely zone with over the top help that turned into bracket... They had two guys, the LB next to him who intercepted it and the safety breaking down over the top of him. I'm guessing there was no deep threat or conceptional route to take the safety away.

Was it Greathouse or Faison who cut the route? Whichever it was, the LB didn't bite because he never flipped his hips. Nor did he really care about the flat route -- which all goes back to bad throw. Why were making a huge deal out of his 2nd interception is beyond me. He's allowed to have 190+ attempts without an interception regardless of how bad it was.

 

[Dale]

Certainly not man, definitely zone with over the top help that turned into bracket... They had two guys, the LB next to him who intercepted it and the safety breaking down over the top of him. I'm guessing there was no deep threat or conceptional route to take the safety away.

Was it Greathouse or Faison who cut the route? Whichever it was, the LB didn't bite because he never flipped his hips. Nor did he really care about the flat route -- which all goes back to bad throw. Why were making a huge deal out of his 2nd interception is beyond me. He's allowed to have 190+ attempts without an interception regardless of how bad it was.

I’m 100% sure it was straight man or Quarters. It was probably Quarters. The nickel picked it off not a linebacker. Faison’s defender bailed which is why he came back. Safety has nothing to do with the play at any point.

I don’t think you’re remembering or rewatching the play correctly.

 

[Irish8248]

I’m 100% sure it was straight man or Quarters. It was probably Quarters. The nickel picked it off not a linebacker. Faison’s defender bailed which is why he came back. Safety has nothing to do with the play at any point.

I don’t think you’re remembering or rewatching the play correctly.

Just watched it -- defn quarters. You see the safeties pretend to bump up but drop out. They stay on the seams of the field and don't ever push out. Then you see the two corners bail deep which could be man but because of the safety position, you get quarters.

You have motion across and the LB doesn't run but the near side LB does bump back.

On the snap on the ball it looks like man underneath but that near side LB doesn't go with #3 instead stays in the middle to wait for a new #3 on the crossing route.

The nickel would now have to choose between old #3 in the "flat" who becomes #2 or to sink for #1 behind him. He ignores #2 which tells us that it's most likely zone underneath now.

Faison cuts his route right next to Price and the safety over middle top is crashing down because there's no deep middle threat. So you have a bracketed coverage on Faison with an open flat.

... Upon further review, it just looks like a vanilla pass scheme and a poor decision.

 

[INLaw]

If styles prescod played more than half the game at left tackle is he just good. Or at a minimum way more a tackle than. Guard)???

 

[BeatSC]

Just watched it -- defn quarters. You see the safeties pretend to bump up but drop out. They stay on the seams of the field and don't ever push out. Then you see the two corners bail deep which could be man but because of the safety position, you get quarters.

You have motion across and the LB doesn't run but the near side LB does bump back.

On the snap on the ball it looks like man underneath but that near side LB doesn't go with #3 instead stays in the middle to wait for a new #3 on the crossing route.

The nickel would now have to choose between old #3 in the "flat" who becomes #2 or to sink for #1 behind him. He ignores #2 which tells us that it's most likely zone underneath now.

Faison cuts his route right next to Price and the safety over middle top is crashing down because there's no deep middle threat. So you have a bracketed coverage on Faison with an open flat.

... Upon further review, it just looks like a vanilla pass scheme and a poor decision.

Holy Cow! You guys have beaten this one to death. I’m calling it a draw. Now go back and remember you’re both ND guys. Lousy Int the Faison could have done more to break it up.