BC Post Game Analysis

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This loss was the most difficult of the season to swallow. Not for the obvious reason that it was the dreaded rival BC, but rather because this was a winnable game. If BC is a Top 5 team, then ND is not far from the Top 25. Reality is that BC is overrated and we are not as bad as our record indicates. This game brought a couple things to the reality for me, CW's QB decisions this season have cost this team the chance at a somewhat successful season. Well, on to the game analysis. This week I will go Offense first.

OFFENSE-
Quarterback: If you are a JC kool-aid drinker, change the channel now. Jimmy continued to make slow decisions. He further threw several passes that should have been intercepted. He did make a couple crisp passes, but he cannot be 100% healed. I thought JC was more mobile than he has shown. He definitely does not have pocket awareness yet. He has very little velocity on his ball. Shame on CW for playing a freshman who I believe is about 80% with his arm. I said last week that JC would cost us a game. Well, he made a big contribution to the loss with his INT and inability to move the ball. Evan came in and looked Sharpley in his game. He throws a crisp hard ball. His accuracy is sometimes off, but he makes a quick decision and cannons the ball. His scramble at the end of the game was incredible. Then his 4 and 1 TD which got called back was great. Evan looks good on the rollout. Evan is never going to be a Quinn, but he is still solid. Evan will make some bad throws, but if you have him start a game where the D does not know what is coming, he could be really good. The shame is that with him leading us all season, I believe we get the necessary 6 wins for a bowl. Shame on CW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Grade D(JC) B-(ES)
RB: Since we dug another hole which made ND abandon the run, not a ton here to say. James ran hard for the time he was in. I like how he delivers the blow to the defender. Armando is looking more comfortable. We should be using him more on quick pitches. I am absolutely appauled the CW is not using Luke more at FB. He is better runner and receiver than Asaph. Another example of CW not utilizing the talent we posses. Overall, I think our RB are doing the best they can with what is given them. Grade C+
TE: I cannot express how glad I am to see Carlson getting his grove back. He is making those tough catches again and gaining yards. Kudos to Yeatman on a nice catch in traffic. These guys will benefit huge from Evan playing. He is good with the dumpoff pass to these guys. Grade B
WR: Parris almost looked like "The Shark" after his one catch today. He is one player you can point to who is maximizing his talent. He is not super fast, but effort is great. Kamara played well, but showed his freshman side. He dropped a couple easy catches. One critical for a first down from Evan. I am disapointed in CW not getting some other guys in the rotation. CW does a poor job at getting more guys in the mix at all postions on O. Hord should get some time out there. Overall, our receiving corp is maturing. Grade C+(Kamara makes those tough catches and they get a B)
OL: Well here goes. After making progress for a few weeks, they regressed some this week. Sam Young is the biggest dissapointment of the group. He gets beat repeatedly. I will be shocked if he can hold off Romine or Dever in the long term. Turk, I have ridden you all year, but the holding call on 4th down tonight was iffy. I feel bad for you on that play. Also, much of the problem on this line is not physical, it is gap responsibility. I know this, I played OL. Coaching must teach assignment understanding. Latina, get your resume prepared. Grade D(Young gets an F)
O gameplan: Charlie, you owe your players and fans a huge apology. Your QB tinkering cost ND a chance at a bowl and today a possible HUGE win. CW stated before the game we would have to score more than 20 points. It was obvious after the 1st quarter that the game plan from UCLA came back to South Bend. More DINK and DUNK. This gameplan was NOT going to score 20 points and JC was for sure not comfortable again in the pocket. Grade D-(only reason not an F, because he finally went to Evan)

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DL: This group continues to play at an intense and high level. The main issue they have is they are just not great players. Laws is a beast and he gets richer every week. Kuntz is giving great effort, but he is playing out of position. He will be good at DE next season with Ian at NG. Brown and Stephenson try,but they are just outclassed. Great heart award goes to this group. Grade C+(they still struggle on pass rush)
OLB: Smith and Neal are really special. They do not play like freshman. Take note if you are a OC for the opposition because next season they will be terrors. Ryan played well and makes strides every week, but he is still a bit outmatched physically. Richardson made a couple good palys today. Long term OLB will be a huge strength at ND. Grade B(get ready to see some A's in this groups future)
ILB: Crum had a pretty quiet game tonite. Brockington played hard and made a few good tackles. Smith looks out of postion too often. This group is just very average and I am not ripping them, but they are physically not overwhelming. This is why I believe teams can run so effectively on us. They cannot shed blockers and flow to the ball very fast. Finally, what the BLEEP is Brockington doing be matched one on one with a RB split out on the goal line. That is shame on the DC for that match-up issue. Grade C-
Safeties: Zibby was one of my all time favs at ND a couple years ago. He just looks so average out there this year. He is out of position too many times. Bruton cost us on the 1st half long run getting out of position. Reminded me of Ndu last year. Grade C-
CB's: We have some special brewing with Walls. You can feel him getting more and more comfortable. He will be a lock down corner by next season. Lambert played OK even though he gave up the one TD. Much maligned Wooden continues to impress on his tackling. He did cause me to almost come thru the TV on his PI call. This group will be special in the coming years. Walls side will be a no throw zone by next season. Grade B(Walls will be an AA in the coming years)
D gameplan: If you are a young kid, CB is someone you will want to play for. He lets the kids fly around and wow he is a gambler. I liked our plan to put pressure on, but CB got a bit carried away. He was bringing too many bodies in certain situations. On the 4th and goal play, he brought the house and leaves Brockington on an island. NO NO. I am still not sold on the 3-4 D. It looks too easy to run because you can clog the first layer up and then all the O has to do is beat our 2 ILB's. To make this work, our OLB's must be studs which I think Smith and Neal could become, but they are not there yet. Keep up the effort boyz, we ND fans appreciate your effort. Grade B-(bit more control on the blitzes)

Finally, this team is not as deficient in talent as we may think. We just played a Top 5 ranked team and could have won. We could have gone to a bowl this year, but I feel CW has cost us that opportunity. With Evan at the controls all year, I believe we would have gotten those 6 wins. We handed this game to BC, they did not beat us up. The punt kneel. The JC INT. Celebration penalty. 21 points given to them. If Evan does not get the nod next week, I will not blame him one bit if he walks away. He has stood with class and yet has to wonder what he must do to start. GO IRISH!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Thanks to Jones. Quite an analysis. I honestly don't know that CW cost us 6 games this year, but I agree he's barking up the wrong tree using the season to give Clausen on-the-job training. This game was definitely winnable.

I know the ypp on the run has been bad this year, but I still don't see hwta abandoning therun altogether ha accomplished. The whole running offense got 15 reps today (that's not the "official" number, but college football erroneously grades a sack or flushed QB run as a run, when they SHOULD be cored as passing plays). No first line RUNNER would be satisfied with less than 25 reps for himself.

Why won't Weis even try to establish a running game?
 

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I am not saying he has cost us 6 games this season. But I am saying that we could have won atleast one or two more games at this point which puts us right in the mix for a 6 win season and a bowl game.
 

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I see. That's possible. I think he lost THIS one, and, looking back, it's possible MSU could have been another (they aways seem to "retire" after they play us).

But I can't get past how little patience he is showing with the running game. Does that strike you, too?
 

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We could have gone to a bowl this year, but I feel CW has cost us that opportunity. With Evan at the controls all year, I believe we would have gotten those 6 wins.

No no and no. U said i ureself just now talking about how bad our O-Line is, how the hell do u think that we would have won all of those games. Simply not possible, tht is a strong scheduel and no way we win even 3 of those games.
 

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I believe we could have beaten purdue, maybe MSU also with sharpley at the helm.

I am not saying he has cost us 6 games this season. But I am saying that we could have won atleast one or two more games at this point which puts us right in the mix for a 6 win season and a bowl game.
 

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I said we could have won one or two of the game we lost to this point. That gives us 2-3 wins which with our remaining schedule would most likely get us our 6 win season and a bowl berth. Geez, I never said we win all 6 of the games we have played already.
 

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Well it sure seems that Sharpley has the playmaking abilty ND could use. Clausen has game but Sharpley should be starting next week.
 

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I don't see how the playcalling is supposed to be faulted. Look at my breakdown of the drives: they all stalled because of stupid penalties, misthrown or dropped passes, failures on third and short, and so on. The team was given every opportunity to win, and they failed to execute, plain and simple. Get off Weis's back.
 

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This loss was the most difficult of the season to swallow. Not for the obvious reason that it was the dreaded rival BC, but rather because this was a winnable game. If BC is a Top 5 team, then ND is not far from the Top 25. Reality is that BC is overrated and we are not as bad as our record indicates. This game brought a couple things to the reality for me, CW's QB decisions this season have cost this team the chance at a somewhat successful season. Well, on to the game analysis. This week I will go Offense first.

OFFENSE-
Quarterback: If you are a JC kool-aid drinker, change the channel now. Jimmy continued to make slow decisions. He further threw several passes that should have been intercepted. He did make a couple crisp passes, but he cannot be 100% healed. I thought JC was more mobile than he has shown. He definitely does not have pocket awareness yet. He has very little velocity on his ball. Shame on CW for playing a freshman who I believe is about 80% with his arm. I said last week that JC would cost us a game. Well, he made a big contribution to the loss with his INT and inability to move the ball. Evan came in and looked Sharpley in his game. He throws a crisp hard ball. His accuracy is sometimes off, but he makes a quick decision and cannons the ball. His scramble at the end of the game was incredible. Then his 4 and 1 TD which got called back was great. Evan looks good on the rollout. Evan is never going to be a Quinn, but he is still solid. Evan will make some bad throws, but if you have him start a game where the D does not know what is coming, he could be really good. The shame is that with him leading us all season, I believe we get the necessary 6 wins for a bowl. Shame on CW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Grade D(JC) B-(ES)
RB: Since we dug another hole which made ND abandon the run, not a ton here to say. James ran hard for the time he was in. I like how he delivers the blow to the defender. Armando is looking more comfortable. We should be using him more on quick pitches. I am absolutely appauled the CW is not using Luke more at FB. He is better runner and receiver than Asaph. Another example of CW not utilizing the talent we posses. Overall, I think our RB are doing the best they can with what is given them. Grade C+
TE: I cannot express how glad I am to see Carlson getting his grove back. He is making those tough catches again and gaining yards. Kudos to Yeatman on a nice catch in traffic. These guys will benefit huge from Evan playing. He is good with the dumpoff pass to these guys. Grade B
WR: Parris almost looked like "The Shark" after his one catch today. He is one player you can point to who is maximizing his talent. He is not super fast, but effort is great. Kamara played well, but showed his freshman side. He dropped a couple easy catches. One critical for a first down from Evan. I am disapointed in CW not getting some other guys in the rotation. CW does a poor job at getting more guys in the mix at all postions on O. Hord should get some time out there. Overall, our receiving corp is maturing. Grade C+(Kamara makes those tough catches and they get a B)
OL: Well here goes. After making progress for a few weeks, they regressed some this week. Sam Young is the biggest dissapointment of the group. He gets beat repeatedly. I will be shocked if he can hold off Romine or Dever in the long term. Turk, I have ridden you all year, but the holding call on 4th down tonight was iffy. I feel bad for you on that play. Also, much of the problem on this line is not physical, it is gap responsibility. I know this, I played OL. Coaching must teach assignment understanding. Latina, get your resume prepared. Grade D(Young gets an F)
O gameplan: Charlie, you owe your players and fans a huge apology. Your QB tinkering cost ND a chance at a bowl and today a possible HUGE win. CW stated before the game we would have to score more than 20 points. It was obvious after the 1st quarter that the game plan from UCLA came back to South Bend. More DINK and DUNK. This gameplan was NOT going to score 20 points and JC was for sure not comfortable again in the pocket. Grade D-(only reason not an F, because he finally went to Evan)

DEFENSE--
DL: This group continues to play at an intense and high level. The main issue they have is they are just not great players. Laws is a beast and he gets richer every week. Kuntz is giving great effort, but he is playing out of position. He will be good at DE next season with Ian at NG. Brown and Stephenson try,but they are just outclassed. Great heart award goes to this group. Grade C+(they still struggle on pass rush)
OLB: Smith and Neal are really special. They do not play like freshman. Take note if you are a OC for the opposition because next season they will be terrors. Ryan played well and makes strides every week, but he is still a bit outmatched physically. Richardson made a couple good palys today. Long term OLB will be a huge strength at ND. Grade B(get ready to see some A's in this groups future)
ILB: Crum had a pretty quiet game tonite. Brockington played hard and made a few good tackles. Smith looks out of postion too often. This group is just very average and I am not ripping them, but they are physically not overwhelming. This is why I believe teams can run so effectively on us. They cannot shed blockers and flow to the ball very fast. Finally, what the BLEEP is Brockington doing be matched one on one with a RB split out on the goal line. That is shame on the DC for that match-up issue. Grade C-
Safeties: Zibby was one of my all time favs at ND a couple years ago. He just looks so average out there this year. He is out of position too many times. Bruton cost us on the 1st half long run getting out of position. Reminded me of Ndu last year. Grade C-
CB's: We have some special brewing with Walls. You can feel him getting more and more comfortable. He will be a lock down corner by next season. Lambert played OK even though he gave up the one TD. Much maligned Wooden continues to impress on his tackling. He did cause me to almost come thru the TV on his PI call. This group will be special in the coming years. Walls side will be a no throw zone by next season. Grade B(Walls will be an AA in the coming years)
D gameplan: If you are a young kid, CB is someone you will want to play for. He lets the kids fly around and wow he is a gambler. I liked our plan to put pressure on, but CB got a bit carried away. He was bringing too many bodies in certain situations. On the 4th and goal play, he brought the house and leaves Brockington on an island. NO NO. I am still not sold on the 3-4 D. It looks too easy to run because you can clog the first layer up and then all the O has to do is beat our 2 ILB's. To make this work, our OLB's must be studs which I think Smith and Neal could become, but they are not there yet. Keep up the effort boyz, we ND fans appreciate your effort. Grade B-(bit more control on the blitzes)

Finally, this team is not as deficient in talent as we may think. We just played a Top 5 ranked team and could have won. We could have gone to a bowl this year, but I feel CW has cost us that opportunity. With Evan at the controls all year, I believe we would have gotten those 6 wins. We handed this game to BC, they did not beat us up. The punt kneel. The JC INT. Celebration penalty. 21 points given to them. If Evan does not get the nod next week, I will not blame him one bit if he walks away. He has stood with class and yet has to wonder what he must do to start. GO IRISH!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice analysis! Reps coming.
 

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Stats are similar, but they do not tell all the story. Kamara dropped a couple really easy catches on Sharpley. Further, when Sharpley was playing the D knew he was going to pass due to our deficit. Clausen had the benefit of starting at a zero zero game.
 

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How much more of the playbook can Weis run with Sharpley than with Clausen?
 

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Stats are similar, but they do not tell all the story. Kamara dropped a couple really easy catches on Sharpley. Further, when Sharpley was playing the D knew he was going to pass due to our deficit. Clausen had the benefit of starting at a zero zero game.

Exactly.........and you don't think that they were probably playing a little soft, keeping everything in front of them? Think maybe that made it easier for Sharpley to look good? I'm not saying Clausen would have looked just as good, but perhaps Sharpley looks a little better than he actually is, due to soft defenses? Just a thought...........
 

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Stats are similar, but they do not tell all the story. Kamara dropped a couple really easy catches on Sharpley. Further, when Sharpley was playing the D knew he was going to pass due to our deficit. Clausen had the benefit of starting at a zero zero game.

Come on, Clausen had some passes dropped as well. Sharpley had the opportunity to come in there and just sling it, and he did very well doing that on the first drive. After that, he really started to overthrow guys pretty often, which is definitely his biggest problem. I still think he should start, though.
 

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How much more of the playbook can Weis run with Sharpley than with Clausen?

That's a valid question. I suspect a little more.

The PROBLEM with it is this: Weis' playbook truly requires a QB to read a D. Sharpley can't do that...and Jimmy is struggling to get rid of the ball early enough
 

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Come on, Clausen had some passes dropped as well. Sharpley had the opportunity to come in there and just sling it, and he did very well doing that on the first drive. After that, he really started to overthrow guys pretty often, which is definitely his biggest problem. I still think he should start, though.

If Sharpley can rein in his passes just a little and stop throwing into double/triple coverage...he will be the clear starter and most importantly...he will win games.

If he does not and he starts...we will continue to lose, but it will be more exciting to lose his way. LOL
 

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If Sharpley can rein in his passes just a little and stop throwing into double/triple coverage...he will be the clear starter and most importantly...he will win games.

If he does not and he starts...we will continue to lose, but it will be more exciting to lose his way. LOL

Well said. I'd hope that if he were put in in a more "normal" situation we'd see less of the overthrows and bad decisions we saw yesterday. That's just hope, though.
 

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Via Ben Ford:

Six deadly plays
Posted: October 14, 2007 03:41 PM

Charlie Weis said the loss to Boston College boiled down to six crucial plays, and that was to be his message to the team on Sunday.

"There's a lot of plays involved in the game, but they're the plays I'm going to emphasize with them, showing the difference between winning and losing," Weis said.

If you watched the game, you can probably guess what those plays are, but here's the rundown:

1. The 52-yard run by Andre Callender on BC's first possession that set up a touchdown.

"Because realistically, in this game, our defense really didn't give up one drive that didn't start in plus territory with the exception of that one drive for score," Weis said. "And on that drive you had a 52-yard run in there that really was the main difference between getting off the field and giving up points."

2. The low snap by J.J. Jansen that led to punter Geoff Price's inadvertent kneel-down and good field position for the Eagles, which they turned into a touchdown.

3. Jimmy Clausen's interception that was returned to the 11-yard line and led to a BC touchdown that made it 20-0.

4. The excessive celebration penalty that followed Brian Smith's interception return for a touchdown.

"I don't blame the officials for calling it," Weis said. "We need to do a better job of controlling ourselves, and that falls on me."

5. The poor coverage on the kickoff from the 15-yard line after the celebration penalty that led to BC taking over on the Irish 44-yard line.

6. The holding call on Mike Turkovich that brought back a touchdown pass from Evan Sharpley to Robby Parris in the fourth quarter.

"You can call it holding. You could not call it, too. But you could call it holding," Weis said. "He's engaged with him the whole time. It wasn't like the guy went by him and he grabbed him. He's locked on to him at the line of scrimmage, and the guy's going to his outside, and he's still locked on to him. The guy's coming around, and he's still locked on to him. So the official can call holding on the play. I would prefer that he didn't, but there is enough evidence on the tape where you can see him call holding."

In all, Weis said, Notre Dame's problems were more mental than physical Saturday, which is a definite change, probably for the better.

"But the message you try to say is, look, we've lost six games this year," Weis said. "Of the five games we've lost, they've all been different than this one. Georgia Tech we hung in there for a while, then it fell apart. Penn State, we hung in there for a while, then it fell apart. Michigan it was wire-to-wire from the start of the game to the end of the game. Michigan State, you know, it was through a half, we were right there, and then it started to fall apart in the second half. Purdue was the flipside — first half we don't do anything, we rally in the second half. This is the first time this year they've been in a game till the five-minute mark at the end of the game, where the game is still in question. You know, we threw that play-action pass on fourth and 1, it's a touchdown, it's 27-21. You'd like to find out what would happen. I don't know if the game would change or not. We might have just lost 27-21. But I would certainly like to find out."

Right on the money, no doubt about it. Like Weis said, there's the difference between winning and losing for you.
 

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I agree with your point about Darrin Walls. I have noticed that this season also, he is evolving into a lock down corner. Aside from the purdue game I think he has done everything you could ask from a true sophmore in his first season starting.
 

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Come on, Clausen had some passes dropped as well. Sharpley had the opportunity to come in there and just sling it, and he did very well doing that on the first drive. After that, he really started to overthrow guys pretty often, which is definitely his biggest problem. I still think he should start, though.

Agree, all I would add is while there were dropped passes, there were also dropped interceptions. Sharpley probably means more completions....to both teams.

Jones that's a little harsh on CW. The dink and dunk is maddening, but I honestly believe it's part of what is keeping us in these games. It isn't just individual improvement that took us from getting slaughtered by the worst scUM team since I leaned how to spell foohbaw to competing against a solid top-10 team in BC. The dink and dunk aint a pretty girl but she is one that is more likely to leave the bar with you. OLB and the Wall - absolutely agree, they are going to be real strengths in the future.

Also sort of forgotten is that Lambert didn't look foolish against the best QB we have played....maybe you can teach an old dog new tricks.
 

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Well said. I'd hope that if he were put in in a more "normal" situation we'd see less of the overthrows and bad decisions we saw yesterday. That's just hope, though.

You'd see a Fresh D coming after him.

I don't think it will change a thing.
 

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You can not win games if you can't run the ball....plain and simple

Sharpley looked better than JC, he throws the ball harder

Defense was on the field way to long again
 

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You'd see a Fresh D coming after him.

I don't think it will change a thing.

I guess what I had in mind is this: Sharpley started off tight, then settled down, then got jumpy again and started over-throwing guys. I'd hope that if he played from the start, and with an opportunity to have some run plays mixed in and not throw it downfield on nearly every down, he'd play a bit of a cleaner game.

That said: I remember watching him get hammered time and time again against Georgia Tech. The though of those Trojan defenders slamming into him as he stands immobile in the pocket makes me shudder. Ugh.

I just think that the best decision for Weis to make right now is to build on the momentum from yesterday and leave Sharpley in there. But there's no reason why he shouldn't get taken out if he plays poorly, just like JC was yesterday.


Ack, whatever. Let's just beat those f-ckers.
 

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You can not win games if you can't run the ball....plain and simple

Sure, but remember that the #1 back left the game with an injury. Aldridge was doing okay (5 rushes for 16 yards) before he left. Hughes did nothing as his replacement.

This isn't to say that this team hasn't got some serious problems running the ball: obviously, they do. But my confidence in Aldridge's ability to get the job done if the o-line can block for him is increasing week by week.
 

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Sharpley looked better than Clausen for 3 passes. We was just as innaccurate after that...and he threw into dangerous coverage.

LMI, at least by the numbers, I don't think you're right. Sharpley missed his first two passes and his last four. In between that he was 11-for-23, a considerably better ratio than Clausen's 7-for-20. I'm not saying he didn't misthrow some balls, or make some dumb decisions, but I do think that to minimize the difference between the ways he and Clausen played yesterday just doesn't seem right.

In any case, I sure hope you're wrong, and that Sharpley is the second coming of Brady Quinn (with Clausen being the third, of course, and Crist the fourth). Something tells me I might be disappointed come Saturday, though.
 

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LMI, at least by the numbers, I don't think you're right. Sharpley missed his first two passes and his last four. In between that he was 11-for-23, a considerably better ratio than Clausen's 7-for-20.

Yeah, but you just removed 6 passes that he did miss. You wanna remove 4-6 for JC too?

;)
 

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OK I understand everyone wanting Jimmy to be so good but I just do not see it! He cannot throw the long ball and is not accurate! All his other issues are due to youth but his natural abilities are just not there....if Shapley does not start Saturday there are some serious issues!!! I say let Evan start the rest of this year and next and groom Crist into a good QB next year. The more I watch Jimmy the more I think he was a product of a great HS system and a VERY talented HS offense!!! I know he is young but we have to put the guy on the field that gives us the best chance of winning. The energy picks up as soon as Evan walks into the huddle...that tells me the team thinks he is the better player and/or likes him better.
 

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Yeah, but you just removed 6 passes that he did miss. You wanna remove 4-6 for JC too?

;)

Yeah, yeah. But come on, though - you know what I mean, right? It took a couple of throws to settle down after coming off the bench, and then that last bunch came in desperation time when he had to run the one minute offense. If we try and "normalize" the situation, his numbers look better than 11 for 29. (Which is still better than 7 for 20 in any case.)

Argh, what are we arguing about? Everyone knows Clausen should be the starter on Saturday! ;)
 
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