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This is absurd: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2125735

However, I find this statement hilarious in regard to the asses running Marquette:

"Not all schools with Indian-related nicknames are on that list. NCAA officials said some schools using the Warrior nickname do not use Indian symbols and would not be affected."
 

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I was in Chicago this afternoon and as I was walking by Millenium Park, I though about this because I saw a ton of Illini shirts.

Why stop at Indian-related names? I'm sure PETA could get on board and we could ban all animal-related names, too. The foolishness of this is beyond my comprehension, and the irony of it all is that the most Native American education the general poplace gets is from sports teams and their mascots.
 

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Im surprised it is only limited to Native American names as well, one of my high school mascots was 'Red Devils'. Surprising in this Christian society that they are more worried about Indian names and not teams that have a mascot of such as the devil.
My other high school's name was the rebels and it was named Nathan Bedford Forrest HS (founder of the KKK).
 

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Banned Names....

Banned Names....

Isn't a Trojan a type of condom???? I am so offended!!
 

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The funny thing is, most Native Americans that have been surveyed are less offended than most other people.

The people complaining are tree hugging, granola eaters who are WHITE.

The Native American population doesn't really care.
 

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jiggafini19 said:
The funny thing is, most Native Americans that have been surveyed are less offended than most other people.

The people complaining are tree hugging, granola eaters who are WHITE.

The Native American population doesn't really care.

Exactly.

My fiances dad, who is a good portion Indian, loves the Fightin' Illini and thinks it is an honor for Illiniwek and the name.

It's simply another issue of political correctness going too far.
 

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I'm Italian. I love the Godfather movies, Goodfellas, Donnie Brasco and think that the Sopranos might be the best TV show ever. I don't even mind every Italian character in every Spike Lee movie ever being cast us stupid ogre apes.

The Italian Americans who complain about the Sopranos do not speak for us. My dad is 55 and loves that show. My uncle is 75 and thinks it is brilliant TV.

People have nothing better to do.

You know what show offended me? FRIENDS. Terrible.
 

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I believe this was posted in the tribune....


In the wake of the news


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Mike Downey


No blarney: Leprechaun must go


Published August 7, 2005



I want that leprechaun put to sleep.

Do you hear me, NCAA? I don't want to see that darn leprechaun at Notre Dame's games anymore. No more of that goofy green suit. No more of that hokey hat. Most of all, no more of that offensive, insensitive, insulting, dehumanizing dance.

As a proud Irish-American, I demand that you make the Fighting Irish of Notre Dame get rid of that stupefying, stereotypical mascot of theirs. And that little jig of his. And I mean pronto, if you'll excuse my use of Indian lingo.

Ladies and gentlemen of the NCAA, I implore you. Do that thing you do. Do what you did Friday, when your executive committee announced that it no longer would tolerate any "hostile and abusive racial/ethnic/national origin mascots, nicknames or imagery."

A leprechaun is all that.

He is mischievous by nature. He is up to no good. He clearly is abusive. Have you ever seen him treat Notre Dame's enemies with any kindness?

And what of that big, crooked stick in his hand? He doesn't carry that cudgel because he is lame. It isn't a cane. A leprechaun doesn't limp. Look at that little fool do his dance. He moves fine. No, a shillelagh looks like a weapon to me. You wouldn't let a Seminole or an Illini walk around a football stadium with a bow and arrow, would you?

I can guess what you are thinking. You're thinking an Irish-American is not an oppressed minority. Or hasn't been one.

Well, you couldn't be more wrong. Irish immigrants were given a very bad time in America when they first came here. They were treated as suspicious foreigners. Their ancestry and accents were mocked. They were maligned as "Micks" and stigmatized as brawling drunks.

Therefore, I would like you righteous brothers and sisters at the NCAA to put an end to the degradation of this "Fighting Irish" slur once and for all. A lot of us don't fight. I don't fight. Well, I did toss a guy out of a bar in Greece last summer, but he was drunker than I was.

The NCAA has made a good start. The actions it took Friday gave notice to the Bradley Braves and Central Michigan Chippewas and Utah Utes that they had better take all of their Native American garb, arrowheads, weapons and war paint and dump the whole pile into a Dumpster.

If these people want to host a postseason competition ever again, they will have to abide by the NCAA's rules and lose the Indian theme.

You, noble warlords of the NCAA, are taking no prisoners. University of North Dakota Fighting Sioux? What do you care if there are Sioux who don't care? So what if there are remaining members of the Sioux tribe who are honored by this legacy? Your edict has come down. You have spoken. The next time North Dakota plays for a national championship, its mascot had better be Buffalo Bill.

OK, so a lot of us happen to believe that tribal names are not unto themselves offensive. Illini, Seminole, Chippewa, Choctaw … these don't seem so bad to us. They have history and dignity. We have entire states named for Indian tribes, for heaven's sake. What do you think the word "Illinois" is, anyway … French? Its origin is Algonquin.

What some of us do resent is the way Caucasians paint their faces red and wear buckskin and feathers and go hey-yo-yo-yo and woo-woo-woo. It doesn't matter if there are some Indians who take no umbrage at this, not until you have taken a vote from every last one of them in this land that their ancestors founded.

Jimmy Carter was as humane and decent a president as this nation has had in this last half-century. So it was appalling to see him at Atlanta Braves baseball games, chanting and chopping a make-believe tomahawk. There are ways to support a favorite team without making a mockery of an entire culture and race.

Somebody should take those Cleveland Indians caps with the grinning red-faced Indian and fling them into Ohio's largest incinerator. Somebody should go up to an African-American athlete on the Washington Redskins and ask him how he would like it if his team were known as the Washington … uh, you know.

I don't mind a team being called the Irish, I really don't. I take pride in my heritage. I wish we could live in a world in which a university's teams could be called the Fighting Italians, the Fighting Mexicans, the Fighting Japanese or the Fighting Germans.

Yet if we get rid of some, mustn't we get rid of all? Can a school really get away with calling itself the Fighting Irish in the wake of this NCAA posse's vigilant PC crackdown? Doesn't this scurrilous nickname need to go? Isn't it time for the leprechaun to sleep with the fishes?

We have come to a seminal moment in the history of America's collegiate athletics, and I do not mean the team names at Florida State.

mikedowney@tribune.com
 

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Go to hell Downey. The day they take away the beloved Fighting Irish moniker is the day I quit supporting the NCAA and college football.
 
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Go to hell Downey. The day they take away the beloved Fighting Irish moniker is the day I quit supporting the NCAA and college football.

Well, I don't think he would have gotten his point across if he had demanded the Tennessee Volunteer get canned. Pretty funny article though. When even the media is mocking something PC, you know it is absurd.
 

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Well, I don't think he would have gotten his point across if he had demanded the Tennessee Volunteer get canned. Pretty funny article though. When even the media is mocking something PC, you know it is absurd.

Yeah, I just don't like Downey. He has written several articles that are very anti-Irish.
 
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NCAA Ban May Be In Doubt...

NCAA Ban May Be In Doubt...

Seems oh Myles may have finally stepped on his #$%&. It looks as though big time attorney Barry Richards is getting involved in this.

Personally I dont know how I stand on this...I guess if the tribes dont have an issue with it then I am not sure why the NCAA would. I think the NCAA is on a very big power trip.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/ncaa/specials/preview/2005/08/09/bc.fl.floridast.seminol.ap/index.html?cnn=yes

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