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SBDomer · Aug 18, 2006

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AZIRISHFAN · Aug 18, 2006

Can't complain about a #2 ranking. U$C down to 6. Was surprised OK stayed in the Top 10.

Irish Envy · Aug 18, 2006

There is just something wrong with West Virginia being ranked higher then USC.

tommy · Aug 18, 2006

i agree svoboda a weak scedual doesnt make you a good football team

littlerick77 · Aug 18, 2006

I wish they'd wait a few weeks before they released the polls. Teams losing early (like OU and Auburn last year) and remaining in the top ten just amazes me. Essentially, you could be 0-2 early, win the rest of your games and surpass a team that loses late in the season. I'm glad to see ND up there, I think the D will be much better than people give them credit for and I think OSU's D will be exposed - the whole concept of being "reloaded" with talent with a bunch of young/unproven players and being ranked #1 - I just don't understand.IMO

I'm sure the Fiesta Bowl outcome is also the reason for more 1st place votes for OSU. There's a perception there that will make poll voters not want to rank ND higher than the team that beat them last season.

littlerick77 · Aug 18, 2006

What? No vote for Duke? Oh wait, I forgot Spurrier isn't a voter for the AP...LOL

lattedatte · Aug 18, 2006

tommy said:
i agree svoboda a weak scedual doesnt make you a good football team

No, but going 11-1 and beating Georgia in atlanta does. IMO, my vote for no. 1 would go to WVU, ND #2, OSU, #3. WVU impressed me more overall than any other team did last year, with two Freshman at the helm. They should only improve this year and do not want to face them in the BCS championship.

GO IRISH!!!!

tommy · Aug 18, 2006

we will see

Guest · Aug 18, 2006

I agree West Virginia is too high. They may very well go undefeated, but thats because of a weak schedule. It would be more fair to ranked them around 10 or so because at 5 they can quicky become one or two if a few teams ahead of them lose, and there is no way they deserve to be number 1 or 2 by midseason or earlier..

LSU should be ahead of Florida.

lattedatte · Aug 18, 2006

WOW, I'm amazed by this, really I am, what is not to like about WVU, forget their schedule they can't help the fact that BC, Va. Tech and Miami defected. Was it our fault last year that we didn't end up beating only but one ranked team, no it just sometimes plays out that way. We both played Pitt last year and beat em by about the same. Very disappointed in this site for the first time since I joined.

tommy · Aug 18, 2006

its not the word of god its a opinion get a grip

lattedatte · Aug 18, 2006

lol, i can't help it sometimes, im very passionate about college football, i just can't wait for the season to start.

tommy · Aug 18, 2006

i hear you man its starting to get to me i meant no disrespect to your team its just how i feal about it

lattedatte · Aug 18, 2006

they are my 2nd favorite team by far ND is no 1, i just have a strong opinion that they are a good team and fairly ranked. no offense taken, just good college talk. is it 9/2 yet??

Folsteam_Ahead · Aug 18, 2006

i was blown away by wvu against georgia last year too, but that offensive firepower wont catch any top tiers this year in a bowl game. plus even though they won, georgia still put a whippin on their defense. and georgia isn't your standard rack up the points style of offense. they're good but even with a weak schedule, all a team has to do is have a well run spread offense and it'll be a nail biter for sure. any of the other teams in the top ten would be overwhelmingly favored in a game with wvu. maybe wvu could pull it out but a top 5 shouldnt be an underdog to teams behind them.

tommy · Aug 18, 2006

yea its ironic because im from a small town in ohio called stubenville which is right by west virginia and ive loved nd ever since i was knee high to a grass hopper an the thought of rooting for any 1 but nd never crossed my mind its just goes to show all the little sub plots this season is going to have it should be a hell of a season no matter who you root for

Guest · Aug 18, 2006

lattedatte said:
WOW, I'm amazed by this, really I am, what is not to like about WVU, forget their schedule they can't help the fact that BC, Va. Tech and Miami defected. Was it our fault last year that we didn't end up beating only but one ranked team, no it just sometimes plays out that way. We both played Pitt last year and beat em by about the same. Very disappointed in this site for the first time since I joined.

WVU doesn't even bring in top 30 talent, what makes you think they should be ranked so high. If they played in a major conference they'd be an average 6 or 7 win team at best.

Looking at rivals, their last four recruiting classes have ranked 52, 31, 47, and 47 with a star rating of 2.63, 2.48, 2.41, and 2.52. C'mon you can't possibly tell me thats championship caliber talent. Granted stars and rankings don't mean everything, but they deserve some merit considering the only team to win a NC the last 20 years without top 20talent was Nebraska.

Its unfair because they can breeze through an easy schedule than play in the NC and possibly win because anything can happen in one game.If their was a playoff system a team like WVU would never play in a NC because there is no way a team with their talent level could beat 3 or 4 elite teams in a row. If they want to play in a NC they need to schedule better teams and earn it like the rest of us.

On a side note Louisville is getting there, if Petrino sticks around they'll be landing top 10- 15 recruiting classes consistently. Their recruiting is improving every year, WVU recruiting hasn't picked up yet despite winning 11 games last year.

tommy · Aug 18, 2006

im more shocked that the top 5 is missing a florida team pleasently surprised might i add not that i think one should be but i cant remmeber a time when they didnt have at least one in the top 5

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06ntlchmps said:
i was blown away by wvu against georgia last year too, but that offensive firepower wont catch any top tiers this year in a bowl game.

Yeah that was a surprise and a great win for the Big East, but any team can win on a given day. If they played Georgia 10 times they might lose 8 or 9 times.

lattedatte · Aug 18, 2006

06ntlchmps said:
i was blown away by wvu against georgia last year too, but that offensive firepower wont catch any top tiers this year in a bowl game. plus even though they won, georgia still put a whippin on their defense. and georgia isn't your standard rack up the points style of offense. they're good but even with a weak schedule, all a team has to do is have a well run spread offense and it'll be a nail biter for sure. any of the other teams in the top ten would be overwhelmingly favored in a game with wvu. maybe wvu could pull it out but a top 5 shouldnt be an underdog to teams behind them.

I agree that WVU will not be catching any team by suprise this year and the louisville game at louisville on a ESPN thursday night looms large, they'll be the dog in that game. But using the fact that Georgia came back on WVU as a reason, I believe we were up big on Tennesse(by the way the 2nd worst offense in the SEC, way behind Georgia) last year and they came back. 21-3 halftime 21-21 at the end of the 3rd.

lattedatte · Aug 18, 2006

QueensNY said:
WVU doesn't even bring in top 30 talent, what makes you think they should be ranked so high. If they played in a major conference they'd be an average 6 or 7 win team at best.

Looking at rivals, their last four recruiting classes have ranked 52, 31, 47, and 47 with a star rating of 2.63, 2.48, 2.41, and 2.52. C'mon you can't possibly tell me thats championship caliber talent. Granted stars and rankings don't mean everything, but they deserve some merit considering the only team to win a NC the last 20 years without top 20talent was Nebraska.

Its unfair because they can breeze through an easy schedule than play in the NC and possibly win because anything can happen in one game.If their was a playoff system a team like WVU would never play in a NC because there is no way a team with their talent level could beat 3 or 4 elite teams in a row. If they want to play in a NC they need to schedule better teams and earn it like the rest of us.

On a side note Louisville is getting there, if Petrino sticks around they'll be landing top 10- 15 recruiting classes consistently. Their recruiting is improving every year, WVU recruiting hasn't picked up yet despite winning 11 games last year.

Recruiting rankings are subjective, very subjective. But if you were to go back and rank WVU's team right now, they would have at 3 5 star guys on offense, White, Slaton and Mozez(all american center) and 3 4 star guys on defense, wicks, mclee and i forget the other guy on the dline. It's always not about rankings their senior year. That's one reason they deserve the ranking. Second they have a great coach. third last year's results. fourth their schedule I agree though year in and year out, it would be tough for WVU to compete. But this year is an anomoly, it's wide open, and they have more coming back than most, especially at the key positions.

AZIRISHFAN · Aug 18, 2006

Here you go for those of you debating WVU this is one of the voters for the AP. Story is on the ESPN website.

By Jason Whitlock
Special to Page 2

1. West Virginia: Schedule, schedule, schedule. The Mountaineers play in the right conference, the Big East, and have a beautiful nonconference schedule: Marshall, Eastern Washington, Maryland, East Carolina and Mississippi State. Notice Virginia Tech, the only team to beat WVA last year, isn't on the schedule. But it's deeper than the cupcake schedule. Coach Rich Rodriquez's spread offense has the perfect quarterback in Pat White and a terrific running back in Steve Slaton. Get by Louisville, and the Mountaineers will be America's lone unbeaten when BCS bowl bids get handed out.

2. Notre Dame: This is really a crazy pick. The Irish play a rugged schedule -- heck, they could lose the opener at Georgia Tech. But there's much to like about Notre Dame beyond Charlie Weis, Brady Quinn, Jeff Samardzija, Darius Walker and the rest of ND's offense. I'm expecting ND's defense to improve significantly. It takes at least a year for players to fully grasp defensive coordinator Rick Minter's complex schemes. Led by ND's veteran secondary, I expect the Irish D to support Weis' offensive fireworks.

lattedatte · Aug 18, 2006

thanks!

AZIRISHFAN · Aug 18, 2006

To be honest I would love to see WVU join us in Glendale. Would be a nice reunion. We could invite Major Harris and Tony Rice. Redo the last NC game we had in AZ!

Folsteam_Ahead · Aug 18, 2006

lattedatte said:
I agree that WVU will not be catching any team by suprise this year and the louisville game at louisville on a ESPN thursday night looms large, they'll be the dog in that game. But using the fact that Georgia came back on WVU as a reason, I believe we were up big on Tennesse(by the way the 2nd worst offense in the SEC, way behind Georgia) last year and they came back. 21-3 halftime 21-21 at the end of the 3rd.

if you notice i never mention georgia coming back, in any way. my point, which you missed, was that their defense is suspect and even a weak schedule can leave them with one or more losses. my reason for thinking it's suspect is that a hard nosed running team ran up some major points on them. you can't win every game on a fake punt anyways. please try to keep on track with the argument.

lattedatte · Aug 18, 2006

06ntlchmps said:
if you notice i never mention georgia coming back, in any way. my point, which you missed, was that their defense is suspect and even a weak schedule can leave them with one or more losses. my reason for thinking it's suspect is that a hard nosed running team ran up some major points on them. you can't win every game on a fake punt anyways. please try to keep on track with the argument.

O right, they have a suspect defense and USC, Ohio St and us don't? By the way they were ranked in the top 5 last year in most defensive categories, including overall. And the fact that Ga. came back and scored some points on them doesn't make them a suspect defense. And the reason they ran that fake punt was becuase of game planning, RR said in the press conference that they noticed that in watching films. Since when did game planning not become important?

lattedatte · Aug 18, 2006

AZIRISHFAN said:
To be honest I would love to see WVU join us in Glendale. Would be a nice reunion. We could invite Major Harris and Tony Rice. Redo the last NC game we had in AZ!

Couldn't agree more, would love to see it... and would love a repeat performance of 88..

tommy · Aug 18, 2006

it could be any one meeting us in az aslong as the out come mirrors 88

Folsteam_Ahead · Aug 18, 2006

lattedatte said:
O right, they have a suspect defense and USC, Ohio St and us don't? By the way they were ranked in the top 5 last year in most defensive categories, including overall. And the fact that Ga. came back and scored some points on them doesn't make them a suspect defense. And the reason they ran that fake punt was becuase of game planning, RR said in the press conference that they noticed that in watching films. Since when did game planning not become important?

if we played their schedule we'd have a top 10 defense.

bottomline is that their ranking is based solely on the fact that they could run table far easier than any other team in the top 10 and not on the talent on their roster, top to bottom.

BGIF · Aug 18, 2006

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class=cnnIEColTxtC>4</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtL>Auburn (3)</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>9-3</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>1,395</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>14</TD></TR><TR class=cnnIERowAltBG><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>5</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtL>West Virginia (6)</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>11-1</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>1,354</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>5</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>6</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtL>Southern Cal (3)</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>12-1</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>1,345</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>2</TD></TR><TR class=cnnIERowAltBG><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>7</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtL>Florida</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>9-3</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>1,178</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>t12</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>8</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtL>LSU</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>11-2</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>1,144</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>6</TD></TR><TR class=cnnIERowAltBG><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>9</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtL>California</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>8-4</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>975</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>25</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>10</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtL>Oklahoma</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>8-4</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>960</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>22</TD></TR><TR class=cnnIERowAltBG><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>11</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtL>Florida St.</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>8-5</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>949</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>23</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>12</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtL>Miami</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>9-3</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>893</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>17</TD></TR><TR class=cnnIERowAltBG><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>13</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtL>Louisville</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>9-3</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>844</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>19</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>14</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtL>Michigan</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>7-5</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>824</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>--</TD></TR><TR class=cnnIERowAltBG><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>15</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtL>Georgia</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>10-3</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>743</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>10</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>16</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtL>Iowa</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>7-5</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>720</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>--</TD></TR><TR class=cnnIERowAltBG><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>17</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtL>Virginia Tech</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>11-2</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>614</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>7</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>18</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtL>Clemson</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>8-4</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>479</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>21</TD></TR><TR class=cnnIERowAltBG><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>19</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtL>Penn St.</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>11-1</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>386</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>3</TD></TR><TR><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>20</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtL>Nebraska</TD><TD class=cnnIEColTxtC>8-4</TD><TD 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