'22 NY DT Kaleb Artis (Penn State Verbal)

[Dale]

It’s interesting two or the schools that have had a lot of June/July success are PSU and Oregon, who we happen to be going against for a handful of guys. As I type this PSU has a new CB for another top RB in addition to Singleton. Oregon landed a 5 star OT yesterday. Can’t underestimate how good of recruiters guys like Cristobal and Franklin are and actually almost helps them that we are not in season and are in look ahead mode

 

[Luckylucci]

Franklin isn’t very good at developing talent so we’ll see

There is enough money and resources in a program like PSU that while it may not translate to wins on the field, these guys still turn into NFL prospects.

 

[irishandy]

The only PSU commit I'd like to keep an eye on is Singleton, after all is said and done will he be in a PSU uniform?

 

[arrowryan]

There is enough money and resources in a program like PSU that while it may not translate to wins on the field, these guys still turn into NFL prospects.

I agree. Similar to Notre Dame before the program overhaul after 2016. They’re usually guaranteed 8-9 wins just from recruiting. Not sure if they’ll ever be a consistent double digit win season under Franklin

 

[CanadalovesND]

Franklin isn’t very good at developing talent so we’ll see

he’s had 32 players drafted while at Penn State... including 23 in the past four drafts (all of whom he recruited to the school). In a seven year span, that averages to just over 4.5 players a year (4.57 to be exact)

BK has had 54 players in his 11 seasons as head football coach at ND... which averages about (4.9 per draft)

so, they are kind of hitting around the same.

let’s call a spade a spade here, Franklin is nearly on par with Kelly when it comes to developing talent...

 

[NDdomer2]

he’s had 32 players drafted while at Penn State... including 23 in the past four drafts (all of whom he recruited to the school). In a seven year span, that averages to just over 4.5 players a year (4.57 to be exact)

BK has had 54 players in his 11 seasons as head football coach at ND... which averages about (4.9 per draft)

so, they are kind of hitting around the same.

let’s call a spade a spade here, Franklin is nearly on par with Kelly when it comes to developing talent...

i think true measure of developing would be based around their graduating ranking and their draft slot. would be interesting to see how many of BK's 54 were 3 star players vs Franklin's.

 

[Irish#1]

i think true measure of developing would be based around their graduating ranking and their draft slot. would be interesting to see how many of BK's 54 were 3 star players vs Franklin's.

Good point.

 

[ThePiombino]

The only PSU commit I'd like to keep an eye on is Singleton, after all is said and done will he be in a PSU uniform?

Saunders too because...well, WR.

 

[Trait Expectations]

he’s had 32 players drafted while at Penn State... including 23 in the past four drafts (all of whom he recruited to the school). In a seven year span, that averages to just over 4.5 players a year (4.57 to be exact)

BK has had 54 players in his 11 seasons as head football coach at ND... which averages about (4.9 per draft)

so, they are kind of hitting around the same.

let’s call a spade a spade here, Franklin is nearly on par with Kelly when it comes to developing talent...

Rather than looking at the long historical trend, I think recency matters more. Kelly made a huge program change in 16, Franklin took over the PSU program in 14. Let's start looking at draft picks in '16:

Y	ND	PS
2016	7	5
2017	2	1
2018	4	6
2019	6	6
2020	6	5
2021	9	6

Totals - ND: 34, PSU: 29

And we've won more and our school is way better and Franklin seems like a huge

 

[Luckylucci]

I’d also like to see a breakdown of the rounds that the players were drafted. I mean, doesn’t it matter that 3 of their 6 picks last year were 7th rounders?

Or how about 2020, 2 of 5 were 6th round picks.

2019, 2 of 6 were 6th and 7th rounders.

Compare that to ND and during those years, only 3 of our draft picks were in the 6th and 7th rounds.