2025 College Football Playoffs

[LifelongFan]

Mickens has missed big once and it cost us the playoffs with Hobbs.

 

[IrishinSyria]

I think this is cope but anything is possible.

Is there any statement from the committee this year that teams won’t be punished for losing Conference championships? If there is, it’s cope. But I don’t think that’s actually a rule and if it’s not it makes sense.

 

[IrishLax]

I think people are looking for logic in something that has no logic. All discussion has been about ND versus Miami so they milked it until the last dramatic week when they will flip it.

Right, it seems like the transparent play is that they are dragging this out to swap Miami in at the last second and get patted on the back for doing so.

There is no reason to up jump Bama for struggling with Auburn. That's the tell that the swap wasn't done on merit. It was to put ND close enough to Miami. That's at least my gut read on the situation.

 

[MPClinton22]

I think this is cope but anything is possible

All you fatalists probably have the right attitude, because the corruption of this sport knows no bounds, and is probably the safer bet right now.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Now that I’ve calmed down a bit. Bama is in and probably jumping with a win. Bumping Bama ahead of ND allows them potentially to drop Bama one spot and keep the buffer

It really doesn't make any sense to jump them now. You've essentially set up a situation where, as it is, you have TWO rematches set up. Why would you want to do that? Just wait a week, if Bama wins, they jump ND. If they lose, they stay where they're at.

 

[NDRock]

I don't think we get in, I think as soon as they started getting political pressure and direct lobbying they folded. The idea that Bama jumped ND because an "impressive win over Auburn" convinced people to move Bama up is the biggest lie I have ever heard. This shit is worse than FIFA.

They are doing all of this to get ND next to Miami so that they can dramatically put Miami in the playoffs this weekend if BYU loses. I am laying heavy bets on Miami to get in while sprinkling BYU as an unlikely hedge... either I cry on a pile of money or ND gets in and I'm happy with a little less money.

Burn the whole system down, go to 16 no byes / no AQs / no committee. 12 does NOT work if you are going to circle jerk the SEC like this and also give spots away to bad G5 teams.

Yep

 

[IrishLax]

Is there any statement from the committee this year that teams won’t be punished for losing Conference championships? If there is, it’s cope. But I don’t think that’s actually a rule and if it’s not it makes sense.

I think they actually said after last year with SMU that they *would* consider dropping teams for bad CCG performances.

 

[IrishinSyria]

If a loss in the SEC championship game doesn't hurt Bama, why does a loss in the Big 12 title game presumably hurt BYU? The double standard is ridiculous

it doesn’t have to hurt them to leave them out. At 11 you need an auto bid without a top 10 ACC team in the title game.

 

[irish2104]

Are they doing it perhaps to be able to position seeding for the last week so they don't have rematches. Like between AM and ND?

 

[Crazy Balki]

Right, it seems like the transparent play is that they are dragging this out to swap Miami in at the last second and get patted on the back for doing so.

There is no reason to up jump Bama for struggling with Auburn. That's the tell that the swap wasn't done on merit. It was to put ND close enough to Miami. That's at least my gut read on the situation.

In that case, why keep Miami at 12 behind BYU. Even if that was the play, this is a downright idiotic way to go about it.

Because again, by the same logic that Bama can't drop for losing, neither can BYU.

 

[RudyVerse]

And the narrative on Miami can be in the middle of the season they had 2 bad losses and that gave a lot of committee members pause on them, but they showed who they were the last couple of weeks by dismantling common opponents with ND, who they already beat in the head to head.

Non zero chance this is the talking point on Sunday

 

[MPClinton22]

it doesn’t have to hurt them to leave them out. At 11 you need an auto bid without a top 10 ACC team in the title game.

But in order to move Miami adjacent to ND, it would have to

 

[IrishTusker]

Mickens has missed big once and it cost us the playoffs with Hobbs.

The whole defense failed against A&M. But yeah, that was bad.

 

[IrishLax]

In that case, why keep Miami at 12 behind BYU. Even if that was the play, this is a downright idiotic way to go about it.

Because again, by the same logic that Bama can't drop for losing, neither can BYU.

Because if they moved up Miami this week then they'd already have to swap them and ND.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Are they doing it perhaps to be able to position seeding for the last week so they don't have rematches. Like between AM and ND?

That's what doesn't make sense. You flip ND and Alabama now, you've locked in rematches at the 8-9 and 7-10 spot.

Maybe that's what they want? Or they wait and decide to move them back if Bama loses.

The way they've gone about this is so insanely convoluted and stupid.

 

[tussin]

In a morbid way, I hope BYU wins and Miami gets one spot ahead of ND, only to still be out. At that point, they will realize they fought the wrong battle the whole time.

Chaos scenario that would result in serious repercussions:
1 - BYU wins
2 - Bama get blown out only to fall to 10
3 - Duke wins
4 - 2 G5 schools get in

As an aside, I’m so over the SEC. These teams are dog shit. We all watched the games. The Saban days are gone, Georgia got dogwalked by ND last year.

 

[IrishLax]

Mickens has missed big once and it cost us the playoffs with Hobbs.

Everything else aside we are probably undefeated if Devonta Smith never gets hurt pre-season.

 

[IrishTusker]

1. It should go without saying that it can be true that we should have gone 2-0 or 1-1 in the first two games and that we deserve to be in and the system needs reform.

2. The committee can come up with a justification for whatever it wants to do. We're just waiting to figure out what it wants to do.

3. There is a full-on campaign to keep ND out, and it appears to be working. Maybe Bevacqua or someone should call attention to the missed call vs. A&M, though. It was pretty bad.

4. The ACC has played a big part in this by attempting to get two spots when only Miami really deserves to be in, and by having a bizarre situation where a UVA conference loss is a non-conference game. ND needs to sort out its relationship with the ACC.

5. Both Miami and ND deserve to be in; one of Bama and OU should be out. Obviously that won't happen, though (see #1). A computer ranking would be preferable.

 

[NDRock]

This whole thing is about shooting the arrow and painting the bullseye afterwards. Hilarious listening to their justifications for stuff. So much bullshit in the world.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Because if they moved up Miami this week then they'd already have to swap them and ND.

But now they can't move Miami up at all, because BYU can't move down for losing in the CCG.

 

[MPClinton22]

Because if they moved up Miami this week then they'd already have to swap them and ND.

But what’s the downside of doing it now? Maintain the controversy another week for views? ESPN certainly isn’t above that I suppose

 

[WaveDomer]

Idle teams can move because of SOS. Miami is locked in on SOS. ND has Boise State. SOS took a hit because TAM lost. Alabama won a rivalry game on the road, no matter how badly. The hype on the Iron Bowl is real. Texas Tech has to win to lock a bye. Virginia winning is also likely good. Texas Tech wins then ND should be in. Boise State winning probably bumps SOS a bit.

 

[Dale]

Anyone who thinks this is a weeks long conspiracy to drop ND at the last possible second thinks way too highly of both the committee’s ability to plan and of ND as the center of the universe

 

[Dale]

What actually happened: They ranked ND high because the computers said to. They figured other teams including Miami would lose and it wouldn’t matter. Those losses for the most part did not come. Now they are trapped within conflicting ranks, goals and logics.

This is why a weekly ranking makes zero sense.

 

[Dale]

But now they can't move Miami up at all, because BYU can't move down for losing in the CCG.

Brother you gotta stop saying can’t like there are rules written in stone.

 

[IrishLax]

Anyone who thinks this is a weeks long conspiracy to drop ND at the last possible second thinks way too highly of both the committee’s ability to plan and of ND as the center of the universe

I don't think it started as a week's long conspiracy but I think they started listening to the lobbying over the past two weeks. There is no *logical* case to move Bama up for squeaking by Auburn.

 

[Kingbish01]

In that case, why keep Miami at 12 behind BYU. Even if that was the play, this is a downright idiotic way to go about it.

Because again, by the same logic that Bama can't drop for losing, neither can BYU.

But Bama can drop a spot now since they are ahead of ND.

 

[T-Boone]

Auburn is not good but they are likely putting weight on the Iron Bowl rivalry won at Auburn.

ND should punt Stanford as our rivalry game and get a decent one.
ND does not have a championship game to play in or a good rivalry round game.

 

[Dale]

I don't think it started as a week's long conspiracy but I think they started listening to the lobbying over the past two weeks. There is no *logical* case to move Bama up for squeaking by Auburn.

If the Alabama move was about Miami, they would have had Miami jump BYU for a ranked blowout win and then flip us today.

The Alabama move was about Alabama. Not Miami.

 

[Kingbish01]

I don't think it started as a week's long conspiracy but I think they started listening to the lobbying over the past two weeks. There is no *logical* case to move Bama up for squeaking by Auburn.

Logical reasons...avoid a rematch, ability to drop Bama after they lose and keep them in the playoffs, and because they dropped Bama with a loss...now they can drop BYU too.