2010 ND Schedule ?

[BGIF]

We Is Notre Dame: Tulsa and TCU on the 2010 Notre Dame schedule??

Rumors about that TCU, Mountain West Conference, and Tulsa, Conference USA, will be on the 2010 ND Schedule. ND's played TCU once in 1972 in South Bend 21-0. ND has never faced Tulsa.

Last year TCU was 11-2 losing to OU, 35-10 and Utah 13-10 while beating Stanford 31-14. TCU beat #9 Boise St 17-16 in the Poinsettia Bowl. Gary Patterson is 73-27 in 9 years with the Horned Frogs.

Tulsa was 11-3, losing to Arkansas 30-23, Houston 70-30 (ouch!), and East Carolina 27-24. They beat #23 Ball St in the GMAC Bowl. Todd Graham is 28-13 in 3 years with the Golden Hurricane.

Here's your unofficial 2010 football schedule:

S04 PURDUE
S11 MICHIGAN
S18 @ Michigan St.
S25 STANFORD
O02 @ Boston College
O09 PITTSBURGH
O23 @ Navy (Meadowlands)
O30 TCU
N6 Army (Yankee Stadium)
N13 Utah
N20 Tulsa
N27 @ Southern Cal

ND fans taht think the Irish should play USC, Bama, Texas, and OU on consecutive Saturdays will be outraged if TCU and Tulsa are indeed on the '10 Schedule. They'll laugh at Navy, TCU, Army, Utah, and Tulsa as cupcakes. Some cupcakes, Navy beat ND 2 years ago, TCU is Phil Steele's #15 ranked team in '09, Utah is Steele's #43 ranked Team ahead of Kansas, Wisconsin, Auburn, and Nevada, and BC, adn Tulsa is Steele's #55 ranked team ahead of KSU, Mizzou, and Cincinnati. It's not Murderers' Row but it isn't a cakewake either. Army is the only one that couldn't pull an upset.

 

[BillyIrish]

great opportunity for TCU and Tulsa. I am not a fan of playing three "BCS busters" in four weeks. just dont like it for whatever reason....

 

[phork]

Wow, thats a frightening prospect.. Utah and TCU are my biggest worries there.

 

[notredomer23]

Its not TCU that could be on the schedule, its Utah. I remember when they were talking about this it was never TCU it was always Utah

 

[BGIF]

Its not TCU that could be on the schedule, its Utah. I remember when they were talking about this it was never TCU it was always Utah

Look below at that "tentative schedule" both TCU and Utah are on there.

Here's your unofficial 2010 football schedule:

S04 PURDUE
S11 MICHIGAN
S18 @ Michigan St.
S25 STANFORD
O02 @ Boston College
O09 PITTSBURGH
O23 @ Navy (Meadowlands)
O30 TCU
N6 Army (Yankee Stadium)
N13 Utah
N20 Tulsa
N27 @ Southern Cal

 

[ndfantp]

I want to know what happened to ND playing Army at Soldier Field. I am in the marching band and for the past year our future schedule/plans have been on the Army game being played at Soldier Field. Was this ever set in stone or did I just look at the wrong year?

 

[BGIF]

I want to know what happened to ND playing Army at Soldier Field. I am in the marching band and for the past year our future schedule/plans have been on the Army game being played at Soldier Field. Was this ever set in stone or did I just look at the wrong year?

The schedule below was posted by a blogger not at UND.com. It's speculation based upon tidbits and upon schedules being developed at other schools and conferences and TV rights. According to a Brian Hamilton article in today's Chicago Tribune

For either 2011 or 2012, it is no great leap to expect Soldier Field to host an Irish game.

I still don't see the rationale in a "neutral" site game so close to campus. In Rockne's day 100,000+ people got to attend the game. Today the capacity is 61,000. An additional 20,000 fans could attend the game in South Bend. Same thing with the RCA Dome with a 60K capacity.

 

[notredomer23]

anyone know if its 2011 or 2012 when we start the home and home with Oklahoma

 

[BillyIrish]

2012 in Norman, 2013 in South Bend i believe...

2012 games include road games with Oklahoma and USC, home dates with Wake Forest and Michigan. 4 games still to be determined

 

[BillyIrish]

Future Notre Dame Football Schedules

link for future schedules...

in my opinion Swarbrick needs to hit a homerun and schedule a couple of blockbuster home and homes. the oklahoma series will be awesome. Miami, texas, alabama somebody please!!!!

 

[nlroma1o]

Future Notre Dame Football Schedules

link for future schedules...

in my opinion Swarbrick needs to hit a homerun and schedule a couple of blockbuster home and homes. the oklahoma series will be awesome. Miami, texas, alabama somebody please!!!!

I couldn't help but notice that there were ZERO SEC match ups in the future.....thats a big problemo

 

[PADOMERNUT]

Future Notre Dame Football Schedules

link for future schedules...

in my opinion Swarbrick needs to hit a homerun and schedule a couple of blockbuster home and homes. the oklahoma series will be awesome. Miami, texas, alabama somebody please!!!!

According to that schedule, on October 27th, 2012, we play both Oklahoma and Wake Forest!!! What a day!!



Yes, I am being sarcastic

 

[phork]

According to that schedule, on October 27th, 2012, we play both Oklahoma and Wake Forest!!! What a day!!



Yes, I am being sarcastic

I'm hoping that this team will be THAT good come that time.

 

[phork]

2012 in Norman, 2013 in South Bend i believe...

2012 games include road games with Oklahoma and USC, home dates with Wake Forest and Michigan. 4 games still to be determined

Cupcake schedule my ass.

 

[Riddickulous]

Utah's the 2010 home opener, I believe.

 

[BGIF]

I couldn't help but notice that there were ZERO SEC match ups in the future.....thats a big problemo

Most SEC teams don't want to travel outside The South. ND had a home and home with Alabama that was to be played in '05 and '06 or '06 and '07. But after Bama went on probation and lost scholarships their AD Mal Moore, who hed been an Assistant Coach at ND years ago, begged out of the contract. ND agreed and Bama downgraded their schedule.

VU, UTN, ALA, LSU, and MISS are teams that ND has played Home and Homes. ARK, AUB, UK, and MSSt have never played. UF and UGA have only met ND in a bowl game.

Most of the SEC is not interested in Home and Home with ND. They want a one game series where ND comes to them. The Atlanta Journal Consitution for years has written articles about UGA playing ND. They point out ND and GT play frequently and GT's not afraid to schedule them.

Neither UGA nor UF want to give up a home day against The Citadel or someother buy game to play ND. Nor to they want to chance another potential lose. Their fans will run their mouths but the SEC almost 20 years ago adopted a tactical scheduling program.

In 1990 Roy Kramer became the SEC Commissioner. In half a year the SEC added ARK and SCA to the league. He then divided the league into two divisions eliminating a number of annual traditional rivalry games like Bama/Tennessee. The purpose was to minimize intraleague losses but playing fewer league games and fewer big time matchups. He created the first Conference Championship Game for $$$ and to once again minimize league losses while positioning their Champion to play for the National Championship. Kramer extended that scheduling tactic to all SEC sports not just football.

Kramer than created bowl tie-in's guaranteeing the SEC something like 7 bowl slots. You have to have a .500 season to be bowl eligible hence the tactical scheduling minimizing intraleague game and adding Div AA and other cupcake out of conference opponents throughout the league schedule.

Kramer than became the first BCS Commissioner and developed the format that selects who plays in the Championship game.

So bottom line playing ND in not in the interest of the SEC overall plan. VU and LSU had a common denominator, Gerry DiNardo a former ND All-American was head coach of both schools. Alabama used to play ND only in bowl games and those were some of the best ever played. The Home and Homes there also had a common individual to initiate a series.

But leaguewise, the SEC isn't interested.

 

[nlroma1o]

Most SEC teams don't want to travel outside The South. ND had a home and home with Alabama that was to be played in '05 and '06 or '06 and '07. But after Bama went on probation and lost scholarships their AD Mal Moore, who hed been an Assistant Coach at ND years ago, begged out of the contract. ND agreed and Bama downgraded their schedule.

VU, UTN, ALA, LSU, and MISS are teams that ND has played Home and Homes. ARK, AUB, UK, and MSSt have never played. UF and UGA have only met ND in a bowl game.

Most of the SEC is not interested in Home and Home with ND. They want a one game series where ND comes to them. The Atlanta Journal Consitution for years has written articles about UGA playing ND. They point out ND and GT play frequently and GT's not afraid to schedule them.

Neither UGA nor UF want to give up a home day against The Citadel or someother buy game to play ND. Nor to they want to chance another potential lose. Their fans will run their mouths but the SEC almost 20 years ago adopted a tactical scheduling program.

In 1990 Roy Kramer became the SEC Commissioner. In half a year the SEC added ARK and SCA to the league. He then divided the league into two divisions eliminating a number of annual traditional rivalry games like Bama/Tennessee. The purpose was to minimize intraleague losses but playing fewer league games and fewer big time matchups. He created the first Conference Championship Game for $$$ and to once again minimize league losses while positioning their Champion to play for the National Championship. Kramer extended that scheduling tactic to all SEC sports not just football.

Kramer than created bowl tie-in's guaranteeing the SEC something like 7 bowl slots. You have to have a .500 season to be bowl eligible hence the tactical scheduling minimizing intraleague game and adding Div AA and other cupcake out of conference opponents throughout the league schedule.

Kramer than became the first BCS Commissioner and developed the format that selects who plays in the Championship game.

So bottom line playing ND in not in the interest of the SEC overall plan. VU and LSU had a common denominator, Gerry DiNardo a former ND All-American was head coach of both schools. Alabama used to play ND only in bowl games and those were some of the best ever played. The Home and Homes there also had a common individual to initiate a series.

But leaguewise, the SEC isn't interested.

Thanks for the ammunition. I can't wait to lay that on all the folks who bitch about ND having a weak schedule.

I didn't know the extent of how spineless the SEC is. Thats bullshit that they wouldn't want to play a team like ND simply because it isn't in the teams/SEC's best interest.

Sounds like a real shame.

 

[BGIF]

Thanks for the ammunition. I can't wait to lay that on all the folks who bitch about ND having a weak schedule.

Phil Steele's Toughest '09 Schedules:
1. SCa
4. MSSt
6 ARK
7. UGA
9. UTN
15. AUB
21. LSU
23. VU
34. UF
36. ND
52. UK
68. ALA
77. MISS

I didn't know the extent of how spineless the SEC is. Thats bullshit that they wouldn't want to play a team like ND simply because it isn't in the teams/SEC's best interest.

I wouldn't call it spineless but clever. About 2300 year ago these principles were set down by Sun Tzu in The Art of War. Plan your battles, accentuate your positives, pick your battefield, tell the other guys you're stronger than you really are, pick your fight when you want to fight it, employ diplomatic channels to your advantage, only fight the battles you have to,. gain the public's support, get the public to hate the enemy.

Kramer was brilliant. Devious but brilliant.

 

[BillyIrish]

Utah will be in South Bend on November 13

 

[nlroma1o]

Kramer was brilliant. Devious but brilliant.

I'll give him that much. Even though College Football is in a way WAR, I still think teams should be timeless and schedule other teams for the simple fact that Football is a game. It's about kids playing and giving it their all to win for their school. You aren't always meant to play a game that is perfect for your team. Football isn't about making sure you can make the perfect business deal AND the perfect scheduling menuever. This is what I meant by spineless.

 

[BGIF]

I'll give him that much. Even though College Football is in a way WAR, I still think teams should be timeless and schedule other teams for the simple fact that Football is a game. It's about kids playing and giving it their all to win for their school. You aren't always meant to play a game that is perfect for your team. Football isn't about making sure you can make the perfect business deal AND the perfect scheduling menuever. This is what I meant by spineless.

It is a game. A game is also one battle in winning the NC.

Everybody's looking for an edge. The SEC has found several.

You'd like Pat Hill, head coach of Fresno St, who's said, "Anywhere, anytime, anyplace!" as to who and when and where he'll play.

 

[nlroma1o]

It is a game. A game is also one battle in winning the NC.

Everybody's looking for an edge. The SEC has found several.

You'd like Pat Hill, head coach of Fresno St, who's said, "Anywhere, anytime, anyplace!" as to who and when and where he'll play.

It would be awesome if more coaches had that mentality.

 

[BGIF]

It would be awesome if more coaches had that mentality.

Rockne did about 80 years ago. The intent then and with Hill is to build a program. To get publicity, build a following, and attract recruits.

Prizefighters will fight anybody on the way up but once they get there they pick and chose opponents carefully to maintain staying on top.

 

[BGIF]

BlueandGold.com // What’s Wrong With Tulsa, maybe TCU?

Under this model, Swarbrick has eight home-and-home relationships, typically with traditional teams, meaning he needs to find at least three opponents each year that are willing to play at Notre Dame Stadium without benefit of a return date.

“That’s not easy, and that’s the essence of the challenge we face right now,” he said. “Our fans would like to see us play a top-10 team every week. Well, top-ten teams aren’t going to come on a non home-and-home basis. Top 30 teams aren’t going to come on a non home-and-home basis. And so you have to balance those things.”

And that’s why Tulsa and potentially TCU are great gets for Swarbrick and Notre Dame. Tulsa finished 11-3 last season, beat Ball State 45-13 in its bowl game, and finished No. 42 in the final Sagarin rankings, 11 spots ahead of Notre Dame. TCU went 11-2 last season, beat Boise State 17-16 in its bowl game, and finished No. 7 in the final Sagarin rankings, one spot ahead of Penn State. Those are a couple of solid opponents, if Swarbrick can get them both.

Tulsa's AD Bubba Cunningham is an ND grad and a former ND Athletic Department Administrator.

 

[BGIF]

Notre Dame reportedly wants TCU on 2010 football schedule

By STEFAN STEVENSON star-telegram.com

Notre Dame has reportedly asked if TCU would be interested in playing in South Bend, Ind., on Nov. 6, 2010.
TCU has already confirmed three opponents in 2010: vs. Baylor, Sept. 4; at SMU, Sept. 11; and at Texas Tech, Sept. 18. Adding another road game in the middle of the Frogs’ conference schedule, despite Notre Dame’s lore, seems unlikely.
A TCU release stated: "We’ve had dialogue with Notre Dame just like we’ve had with many other schools regarding a possible future game."

 

[BGIF]

Looks Like Tulsa Game Is Gonna Happen

Looks Like Tulsa Game Is Gonna Happen

Tulsa pursuing game at Notre Dame -- chicagotribune.com

By JEFF LATZKE AP Sports Writer July 23, 2009

Athletic director Bubba Cunningham's pursuit of more exposure for a rising Tulsa program has led him back to his alma mater, where he's trying to put together a contract for the Golden Hurricane's first ever game against Notre Dame.

Cunningham confirmed Thursday that he has met with Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick about the teams playing during the 2010 season.

"They have some dates available. We're trying to secure one of them, but I don't have a contract yet. Hopefully it will work out," Cunningham said.

"I think it would be good exposure for us, playing on NBC. To play at a historic stadium and institution like that would be a great experience for the students. I think it's a great opportunity."

Tulsa went 11-3 last season to set a school record for wins and has worked to set up games against high-profile opponents in recent years. The Golden Hurricane will open a home-and-home series against Boise State this fall and also has set up a three-year series against Oklahoma State beginning next year.

Games against Oklahoma are scheduled in 2011, 2013, 2014 and 2015. Iowa State and Colorado State also are among future opponents.

"You need a balance and then you need to win, so you can't overburden yourself but you also have to take some risks as well to get any kind of movement," Cunningham said. "We have taken some risks. Sometimes it's worked, sometimes it hasn't but we think overall we're headed in the right direction."

Tulsa positioned itself for a potential BCS run with an 8-0 start last season before losing 30-23 at Arkansas -- rallying to take the lead after falling behind 17-0.

In general, Tulsa has tried to form its non-conference schedule with one opponent from a BCS-affiliated conference, two from non-BCS leagues and one from the Football Championship Subdivision.

Cunningham has been creative in finding opportunities to get Tulsa on television. Of Tulsa's 12 regular-season games this season, only seven are on Saturdays. Two are on Wednesday nights, two on Friday and one on Sunday.

"I think in an ideal world you'd like to play all of your games at 12 or 1 o'clock on Saturday and have everybody in the world watch, but that's not a reality for us," Cunningham said. "I think that these TV times give us a window to get some exposure."

Cunningham said Tulsa has spread the word that it wants to play "high-profile games against quality opponents" and that leads to the occasional phone call.

"We hope the more that we get televised, the more people learn about the University of Tulsa being a small, private, high-end academic institution," Cunningham said. "I think with our name and being in Conference USA, I think when you list off the schools, Tulsa sounds like Houston and Memphis -- large, public, urban schools -- and we're not."

 

[irishfan]

Kinda annoying with the TCU, Utah, Tulsa games because as many people have said they are pretty all lose-lose situations. I know that Swarback has said that it is tough finding teams that will come to ND and not get a return trip the next year from ND, but couldnt he have called up teams like Duke, Vandy, Baylor, Iowa State, Indiana, Northwestern, etc. who are lower-tier BCS schools who would most likely take the same deal? I would be a lot happier playing one of those 6 teams than TCU, Utah, or Tulsa

 

[WabashFalcon]

Tulsa are gamers man... that 5 wide spread shit works.

 

[BGIF]

Kinda annoying with the TCU, Utah, Tulsa games because as many people have said they are pretty all lose-lose situations.

From the posts I read most of the people complaining are the ones that want the '88 and '89 schedule repeated every year. They're the stereotype arrogant ND fan that fans from other schools lament about so often. They're complaints show their ignorance of football power in the land.

Phil Steele's 2009 Power Poll has TCU #15, Utah #43, Tulsa #55.

In 2010 ND repeats quite a few of the lineup from ND's '88 Schedule: UM, MSU, USC, PU STAN PIT Navy. Missing are PSU, MIA, Rice, Air Force.

PSU was unranked in '88. They weren't the lofty foe the selfrighteous "remember" when comparing schedules. PSU is ranked high this preseason but when they joined the Big 10 they broke off playing ND citing the toughness of Big 10 Schedules.

Miami is rated at #17 by Steele - 2 slots BEHIND TCU! After several years of ineptness.
Rice was unranked then and now. Steele has them at 103, 10 slots higher than Army.

Air Force was unranked in '88 and are the same this year. Steele has them at #66 - 11 slots behind Tulsa!

The '89 schedule had the same core opponents: UM, MSU, PU, STAN, USC, PIT, Navy plus MIA, PSU, UVA, and SMU

ND opened at Giants Stadium in the Kick Off Classic with UVA. I was there we crushed an unranked UVA.

How many of those complaining ND fans would like to SMU back on the schedule? They had recently come off The Death Penalty and they asked for the game for the exposure. In the 4th Q, Holtz told the offense, "If anybody scores another touchdown you're done playing for the season." Rusty Setzer was a 3rd string TB in mop-up duty. He broke one down the left side and with no defender around him he ran out of bounds inside SMU's 5 yd line preventing another ND TD. When asked later why he ran out of bounds Setzer said, "I want to play again!" Steele has SMU #90.

I know that Swarback has said that it is tough finding teams that will come to ND and not get a return trip the next year from ND, but couldnt he have called up teams like Duke, Vandy, Baylor, Iowa State, Indiana, Northwestern, etc. who are lower-tier BCS schools who would most likely take the same deal? I would be a lot happier playing one of those 6 teams than TCU, Utah, or Tulsa

I don't think Duke, VU, BU, ISU, IU, or NW are interested in one game buyouts. Regardless with the exception of Army (which gets ND major exposure (recruiting and media) at Yankee Stadium where RU and CON both refused to play) rated by Steele #113 most of these teams Duke (Steele #92), VU (Steele #59), BU (Steele #42), ISU (Steele #85), IU (Steele #104), NW (Steele #70) trail TCU, Utah and Tulsa.

I rather lose to a 15th ranked TCU than a 104th ranked IU in our own back yard. Try dealing with that one for lose of face.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Gotta spread some love around before I can rep you, but damn, thanks for enlightening us. You should go around posting that on message boards around the ND Nation and the ND "Hater-Nation"...