2026 Fall Camp Thread

arrowryan

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I think we're looking at an entirely new defensive backfield next year, just my opinion.

Yes, and no. Yes, they’ll likely be replacing many starters. But they’ll likely be replacing them with guys who will also play a lot this season: Talich, Sanders, O’Brien, Long, Zackery, Golden.

Then you have guys like Pouncey and Adams waiting in the wings. The fact they’re not playing this year just shows how deep the secondary is.
 

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Yes, and no. Yes, they’ll likely be replacing many starters. But they’ll likely be replacing them with guys who will also play a lot this season: Talich, Sanders, O’Brien, Long, Zackery, Golden.

Then you have guys like Pouncey and Adams waiting in the wings. The fact they’re not playing this year just shows how deep the secondary is.
No question, I will just be surprised if any of the starters are back next year. Think either Gray plays well and goes to the draft while his stock is high, or he doesn't and he won't be back regardless. Johnson is going to play himself to a 1st round pick and Shuler plays himself in a 3rd rounder.

Didn't think we would get to the point that we would be reloading our stud defensive backs with more stud defensive backs
 

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No question, I will just be surprised if any of the starters are back next year. Think either Gray plays well and goes to the draft while his stock is high, or he doesn't and he won't be back regardless. Johnson is going to play himself to a 1st round pick and Shuler plays himself in a 3rd rounder.

Didn't think we would get to the point that we would be reloading our stud defensive backs with more stud defensive backs
See, this is where I'm not sure. Remember that even Xavier Watts fell to the third round. The NFL just doesn't like taking risks on non-premium position players without amazing athleticism. Unless Shuler puts up some gaudy interception/passes defended numbers this year and has better testing numbers, I don't think he'll be a day two guy.

To put it in perspective, the athletic had him as the 10th best draft eligible safety in its preseason ranking. Last year the 10th safety off the board went in the 5th round. Only 7 went in the first 3 rounds. In 2025, 6 went in the first 3 rounds (Watts being the 6th), and the 10th was in the 4th round.
 

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Yes, and no. Yes, they’ll likely be replacing many starters. But they’ll likely be replacing them with guys who will also play a lot this season: Talich, Sanders, O’Brien, Long, Zackery, Golden.

Then you have guys like Pouncey and Adams waiting in the wings. The fact they’re not playing this year just shows how deep the secondary is.
Why won't Pouncey and Adams play this year?
 

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Did Mike brown (wr coach) say anything newsworthy today?
He was asked about Quincey Porter twice and had like one sentence response "we'll see". He spoke in detail on every other question. That was most notable for me, sounds like they want the Quincey questions to go away and that's probably not a good sign anytime soon.
 

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He was asked about Quincey Porter twice and had like one sentence response "we'll see". He spoke in detail on every other question. That was most notable for me, sounds like they want the Quincey questions to go away and that's probably not a good sign anytime soon.

On Quincy Porter:
“We’ll take it day by day. He’s doing a great job with the things we’re asking. He’s looking good, moving around. We’ll take it day by day.”


On if Porter’s recovery is taking longer than expected:
“I don’t know. I didn’t really know what to expect. We’ll see.
 

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Does anyone know what his surgery/injury actually was? Trying to understand the nature of an injury where the player can be good for individual drills on day one of fall camp immediately after the surgery, but also maybe will never be able to play football again.
 

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Matt Freeman this morning. There were teams who thought Quincey Porter wouldn't play football again. He should be put in the Charles Jagusah bucket (Matt's words).
The goal/expectation is for Jagusah to play later this year or in 2027. Freeman is contradicting himself.
 

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The goal/expectation is for Jagusah to play later this year or in 2027. Freeman is contradicting himself.

I didn’t take it that way. I think Matt is saying don’t expect any news on Porter for at least a couple months (similar to Jagusah).
 

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Matt Freeman this morning. There were teams who thought Quincey Porter wouldn't play football again. He should be put in the Charles Jagusah bucket (Matt's words).
Statements like this always remind me of a Drew Brees interview, where he talked about getting wooed by the Dolphins, but then Miami's doctors told ownership that there was a 25% chance Brees would ever play again (he was coming off surgery). Miami pulled out, traded for Dante Culpepper and it was a major reason Saban left for Bama. Of course Brees goes to the Saints, plays 15 more years and wins a Super Bowl.

So I take them with a grain of salt.
 

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ISD reported a few weeks ago Jagusah will play this year lol. These guys have zero business guessing at injury timelines (I said the same thing then when it was positive news)

Again, I think Matt/ISD's point is "anything we get out of these guys this year won't be until the back half of the season," which I don't think is an unreasonable take at this point.

Also much more "anything is gravy from those two guys." Just my read.
 

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ISD reported a few weeks ago Jagusah will play this year lol. These guys have zero business guessing at injury timelines (I said the same thing then when it was positive news)

Hmm, I'm pretty active there and never saw that from the staff.
 

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I know PR is mostly fair catches but with the young talent, hope someone takes that job from Fiason with how uncertain the WR group is.
Stating the obvious here, but if Faison is the most reliable in ball security in PR, they are absolutely going to trot him out there.
 

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It’s not much but it’s more than what’s out there. On power hour Mike Frank said he’s heard the bone has healed. There was some clean up after but bone is in tact and Mike thinks he plays sometime this year. But said you can’t predict strength and if the current guys are doing well, how do you put in an unknown.

But I’ll take a 6th man in November with NFL talent all day on a playoff run.

Hmm, I'm pretty active there and never saw that from the staff.
 

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It’s not much but it’s more than what’s out there. On power hour Mike Frank said he’s heard the bone has healed. There was some clean up after but bone is in tact and Mike thinks he plays sometime this year. But said you can’t predict strength and if the current guys are doing well, how do you put in an unknown.

But I’ll take a 6th man in November with NFL talent all day on a playoff run.

Hmm, I'm pretty active there and never saw that from the staff.

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I didn't recall that but touché. Everything that's written (not podcasted) on Jagusah at ISD he no expectation on 2026. And Matt Freeman specifically doesn't share Mike's 2026 optimism (although I do because I don't understand how it can be an 8 month thing).
 

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There is public footage of Porter running drills early in fall camp. He moves like someone rehabbing an injury.
Does anyone know what his surgery/injury actually was? Trying to understand the nature of an injury where the player can be good for individual drills on day one of fall camp immediately after the surgery, but also maybe will never be able to play football again.
 
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