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Canadian players from US Prep Schools is becoming a big deal for us. Sevillano, Hebert, Mukam, Alexander, Houston, Black. Am I missing anyone?
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One of the benefits of our standardized high school education is that you get a quality high school education pretty well anywhere in Canada. There isn't significant discrepancy between one school and the next like you find in a lot of the areas of the U.S. that produce quality athletes. Therefore, pretty well any Canadian kid in good academic standing for university is going to be able to handle / embrace ND's academics without significant issue. Especially when you consider how much academic help is available to football players at ND.

Because of that reality, the academic side of things is going to be a benefit in recruiting for most Canadian kids, not a drawback. Most of the guys might have NFL aspirations, but they're very raw getting to ND and understand the importance of the degree should the NFL (or CFL) not be a reality for them after graduation.
 
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IrishInOntario said:
One of the benefits of our standardized high school education is that you get a quality high school education pretty well anywhere in Canada. There isn't significant discrepancy between one school and the next like you find in a lot of the areas of the U.S. that produce quality athletes. Therefore, pretty well any Canadian kid in good academic standing for university is going to be able to handle / embrace ND's academics without significant issue. Especially when you consider how much academic help is available to football players at ND.

Because of that reality, the academic side of things is going to be a benefit in recruiting for most Canadian kids, not a drawback. Most of the guys might have NFL aspirations, but they're very raw getting to ND and understand the importance of the degree should the NFL (or CFL) not be a reality for them after graduation.
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Respectfully, quit bragging bitch
 
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IrishInOntario said:
One of the benefits of our standardized high school education is that you get a quality high school education pretty well anywhere in Canada. There isn't significant discrepancy between one school and the next like you find in a lot of the areas of the U.S. that produce quality athletes. Therefore, pretty well any Canadian kid in good academic standing for university is going to be able to handle / embrace ND's academics without significant issue. Especially when you consider how much academic help is available to football players at ND.

Because of that reality, the academic side of things is going to be a benefit in recruiting for most Canadian kids, not a drawback. Most of the guys might have NFL aspirations, but they're very raw getting to ND and understand the importance of the degree should the NFL (or CFL) not be a reality for them after graduation.
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Respectfully disagree with this. The kids who are going to the States for athletics are coming from prep schools or private schools that are focused on getting the kid ready for being an athlete first and student second. These kids who go to the academic focused universities tend to do quite poorly versus public school kids.

Ie. Kids coming from Canada aren’t any smarter than some IMG academy kid and basically do the same up here as they do down there.
 
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Respectfully disagree with this. The kids who are going to the States for athletics are coming from prep schools or private schools that are focused on getting the kid ready for being an athlete first and student second. These kids who go to the academic focused universities tend to do quite poorly versus public school kids.

Ie. Kids coming from Canada aren’t any smarter than some IMG academy kid and basically do the same up here as they do down there.
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It's not about being "smarter". There is nothing unique about a Canadian kid vs an American kid in terms of intelligence. The prep schools you're talking about aren't for everyone though and one of the advantages of a standardized, quality education, is that the kids are prepared for the prep environment and that translates to success at that level and carries forward to ND.

Annecdotal, but I did a semester at ND as an exchange student. While I was an above average student, I certainly wasn't anything special. It was my observation that the idea that there was anything uniquely "difficult" about classes at ND was overblown (and I didn't have any athlete-related tutoring help.) Now, I fully accept the reality that like any other university / college, not all programs are the same and there are definitely streams that have extremely challenging classes and course content. I was a political science major during my undergrad, not an engineering student lol. That said, I felt like my basic bitch high school education, from a run-of-the-mill Catholic high school in Ontario, had taught me more than enough to be successful in my university classes both in Canada and on exchange at ND.
 
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IrishInOntario said:
It's not about being "smarter". There is nothing unique about a Canadian kid vs an American kid in terms of intelligence. The prep schools you're talking about aren't for everyone though and one of the advantages of a standardized, quality education, is that the kids are prepared for the prep environment and that translates to success at that level and carries forward to ND.

Annecdotal, but I did a semester at ND as an exchange student. While I was an above average student, I certainly wasn't anything special. It was my observation that the idea that there was anything uniquely "difficult" about classes at ND was overblown (and I didn't have any athetele-related tutoring help.) Now, I fully accept the reality that like any other university / college, not all programs are the same and there are definitely streams that have extremely challenging classes and course content. I was a political science major during my undergrad, not an engineering student lol. That said, I felt like my basic bitch high school education, from a run-of-the-mill Catholic high school in Ontario, had taught me more than enough to be successful in my university classes both in Canada and on exchange at ND.
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I suppose the point I'm trying to make is that Canadian prep schools aren't necessarily any better educationally than say an IMG. I went to a pretty good university and all of the private school kids who were there for sports got dummied.

TLDR - The prep school kids from like a St. Andrews College or St. Mikes aren't these super students that make them better fits than an IMG. Think we're just seeing more kids realize that it's possible to play D1 ball and they have better financial prospects playing at Easter Michigan than being a CFL star pumping out $60k a year (CAD).
 
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I suppose the point I'm trying to make is that Canadian prep schools aren't necessarily any better educationally than say an IMG. I went to a pretty good university and all of the private school kids who were there for sports got dummied.

TLDR - The prep school kids from like a St. Andrews College or St. Mikes aren't these super students that make them better fits than an IMG. Think we're just seeing more kids realize that it's possible to play D1 ball and they have better financial prospects playing at Easter Michigan than being a CFL star pumping out $60k a year (CAD).
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I totally agree. A Canadian prep school isn't any better than an American prep school. No argument there.

I'm making the point that the consistency of education across Canada at the typical Catholic seperate high school or public school produces kids that can thrive at prep school and Notre Dame. Comparatively, there are substantial differences in the quality of public schools in the U.S. Some are world class. Some are basically third world.

When I'm recruiting for USPORTS in Canada, I don't really have to worry about what high school I'm recruiting a kid from (academically). The academic stream is pretty much going to be good enough wherever the kid goes. When I was recruiting in the U.S. I'd see entire graduating classes at some schools in which only a handful of kids had the grades necessary to make it to quality college.
 
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Partridge and Co. on an absolute heater!

SIAP, but does anyone know what his rating/position rankings were considered before he reclassified? His film is so damn impressive, this does not feel like a fringe 4*. Just curious. Couldn't find it on 247.
 
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ab2cmiller said:
Tim Hortons opened up a fair number of stores in Fort Wayne a number of years ago. I think they are closed except one.

Don't know about their coffee or some of their breakfast menu, but they serve a below average donut.
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Their coffee and sandwiches are pretty good. The only one left just reopened after an elderly woman was killed inside the store.
 
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