Notre Dame Combine Invitees: Results & Analysis

[clashmore_mike]

Dang, 4.31 for Josh Robinson

4.29


Vrooooom

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Like I said before, that is the difference between a laser, self start and a starters wistle. All these guys are slower at the NFL combine, every year. Some are slower than others because they don't process the starters whistle as well. I would for example expect Nick Baratti's 4.45 laser time to be a 4.65 at the NFL combine. This is where the bull **** gets cut, because now they are putting out really big money for all the horses at the gate . . .

 

[clashmore_mike]

Harrison 4.63 on second run, running crooked as hell

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Yikes 4.63 on the second run for Smith

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Like I said before, that is the difference between a laser, self start and a starters wistle. All these guys are slower at the NFL combine, every year. Some are slower than others because they don't process the starters whistle as well. I would for example expect Nick Baratti's 4.45 laser time to be a 4.65 at the NFL combine. This is where the bull **** gets cut, because now they are putting out really big money for all the horses at the gate . . .

What do you mean starter whistle? If you are talking about the combine there is no whistle

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Harrison 4.63 on second run, running crooked as hell

Ya he went nearly out of the lane. Like they said position drills is what will matter for him. Plus he can run again at the pro day.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Harrison Smith 4.57 official 40. Mayock says that time will help him. Good job Mr. Smith

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Oh man Harrison smith is very smooth in his drills...Mayock, Charles Davis and Deion all said he looked good and smooth out there.

Sanders was particularly impressed.

 

[NDinFL]

Lol and some argued with me (think it's Tuitt's thread, ironically) when I said no way in hell he'd run anywhere near a 4.4. Apparently there's some recruiting website that had him listed at 4.38 in high-school.

Kool aid drinkers!

You really gonna play the "told ya so" card right now?

 

[clashmore_mike]

Oh man Harrison smith is very smooth in his drills...Mayock, Charles Davis and Deion all said he looked good and smooth out there.

Sanders was particularly impressed.

Yeah Sanders and Mayock both just said they picked Harrison as the player that sticks out the most of the DBs. Sanders is still talking about him.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Wow Sanders and Mayock are gushing over how smooth Smith is.

Sanders said "Smith is so smooth you can't even tell he is a safety"

 

[AvesEvo]

Oh man Harrison smith is very smooth in his drills...Mayock, Charles Davis and Deion all said he looked good and smooth out there.

Sanders was particularly impressed.

Who is this Sanders guy? Does he know anything about DBs?

 

[koonja]

You really gonna play the "told ya so" card right now?

Yep. A bunch of clowns literally thought he'd be sub 4.4 because it was listed on some website in high-school. I went to war, saying there's no way in hell Harrison is near 4.4 and I was right (for once).

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Yeah Sanders and Mayock both just said they picked Harrison as the player that sticks out the most of the DBs. Sanders is still talking about him.

Crazy right...makes me feel proud of for him and Notre Dame.

All that crap he went through his first three years at ND, I'm so happy for him.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

The best part of the combine is definitely Eisen running the 40 and charles davis doing the analysis.

 

[Grahambo]

Just imagine how much further along in development Harrison would be if Weis didn't switch him to LB.

 

[NDinFL]

Just imagine how much further along in development Harrison would be if Weis didn't switch him to LB.

I keep thinking "Imagine if Kelly had been here for all the years Weis had...."

Hell, Dayne might be a 1st rounder.

BK develops some talent

 

[Bogtrotter07]

What do you mean starter whistle? If you are talking about the combine there is no whistle

However they do it in the NFL combine, the stopwatch starts as the signal is given, then the runner starts. It is not self-starting, as it would be if the runner moves and the clock starts, like with laser timers.

When I was in high school, I was timed by sun dial. But a few years later, one of the schools I had played against started reporting all these really fast forties. Not that they didn't have fast kids. But at that school they started the custom of begining the clock at the first footstep.

Better yet, when I went to college to play, the coach in charge of timing the forty was nearly blind, he was so nearsighted. The upperclassmen that new it would move up five yards. This coach got so excited at how hard these guys must have gotten at it that summer, it hardly looked like they were making an effort, and they were recording their best times ever!

 

[koonja]

I keep thinking "Imagine if Kelly had been here for all the years Weis had...."

Hell, Dayne might be a 1st rounder.

BK develops some talent

It sure sounds good. Examples?

I know these weren't his guys, but he had two years with them and Flemming, Harrison, Ethan Johnson, Crist, Gary Gray, Trevor Robinson, Zeke*, all had very disappointing senior season's if you ask me.

 

[NDinFL]

It sure sounds good. Examples?

If you honestly think that Smith, Fleming, Blanton, and Floyd would have the same combine results under Chuck, then I don't know what to tell you.

Anyone that watched the Weis coached Irish vs The Kelly coached Irish can see an improvement in athleticism

 

[koonja]

If you honestly think that Smith, Fleming, Blanton, and Floyd would have the same combine results under Chuck, then I don't know what to tell you.

I do? With the exception of Floyd, no one was great at the combine. Not trying to be a ****, just saying. I think he's a great coach and I wouldn't take anyone else for the job (with the exception of Meyer or Saban), but I think that label is a bit early. Unless I'm wrong, then by all means, tell me why.

 

[NDinFL]

I do? With the exception of Floyd, no one was great at the combine? Not trying to be a ****, just saying.

No, I get it....

The biggest tell for me of BK developing talent was him bringing Longo in with a very strict, and specific regiment in mind for the players conditioning.

That, to me, says more about BK than anything

 

[irishog77]

Just imagine how much further along in development Harrison would be if Weis didn't switch him to LB.

I keep thinking "Imagine if Kelly had been here for all the years Weis had...."

Hell, Dayne might be a 1st rounder.

BK develops some talent

Perhaps, fellas. But it was his RS freshman year. I think Weis' thinking was to get speed/the best athletes on the field that year...and move him back to S after that year. And he essentially played OLB/Dog. There are absolutely some skills and attributes that carry over from a coverage LB into S-- it's not like he played NG for 2 or 3 years, then was switched to QB for a year or two. Then the guy went on to have THREE years playing the safety position. I seriously doubt that one year, four years ago, of playing OLB robbed him of his chance to be a 1st team All-American/Thorpe Award winner/top-10 NFL draft pick or anything like that.

 

[koonja]

No, I get it....

The biggest tell for me of BK developing talent was him bringing Longo in with a very strict, and specific regiment in mind for the players conditioning.

That, to me, says more about BK than anything

Fair enough, I get what you're saying. When BK came here, most thought the two things he was going to excel at were 1) player development 2) high potent offense.

He hasn't had enough time in the system to say he can't do the above (and my money is that he will), it's just that IMO, I can't name any players that have came out of no where (development wise) nor have we seen a very high-octane offense.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

It is not self-starting, as it would be if the runner moves and the clock starts, like with laser timers.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that is how they start at the combine.

 

[Grahambo]

Dion Caputi ‏ @nfldraftupdate

#NotreDame S Harrison Smith has had a good workout, top to bottom. I don't see a 1st rd value, but thin safety class - you just never know.

 

[NDinFL]

Fair enough, I get what you're saying. When BK came here, most thought the two things he was going to excel at were 1) player development 2) high potent offense.

He hasn't had enough time in the system to say he can't do the above (and my money is that he will), it's just that IMO, I can't name any players that have came out of no where (development wise) or an offense that's very high-octane.

Jonas Gray, Robert Hughes...

Hughes might be a bit of a stretch, but Jonas is legit.

Side note: There was an article posted a while back (I wanna say by Ironman8 or TT) that covered Longo's conditioning regiment. Maybe a mod could send me that link? (please)

 

[Grahambo]

There was an article from a few weeks back that said Brian Kelly and somebody else have helped send the most 2-3* recruits to the NFL or something kind of along those lines.

Forgive me if I'm off. It's something like that.

 

[irishog77]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that is how they start at the combine.

I can't say for certain, but I think you're right, Sherm.

 

[woolybug25]

There was an article from a few weeks back that said Brian Kelly and somebody else have helped send the most 2-3* recruits to the NFL or something kind of along those lines.

Forgive me if I'm off. It's something like that.

"Frank Beamer and Brian Kelly each developed 15 2-star recruits into NFL draft picks in the years 2006-2010."