Forde Has Us Losing to FSU...

NDinL.A.

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Not a bad pick at all. Matter of fact, he took us if you consider the line. I have no problem with it.

But the comment at the end is bullcrap. Typical.

Of course, we love him when he talks crap about USC and Kiffin, but hate him when he talks crap about us LOL. Can't have it both ways.
 

mgriff

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**** Forde! The guy can't even hold down a job...;) What has he been at this new place for a month now? Jeez.
 

phgreek

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And Todd Mcshay has us winning. Who gives a SH*T?

oooo...I don't like that...that guy is certifiably incompetent.

I'd put more on Peter King having a rational thought on the college game than Mcshay...and the last time King had an opinion about ND, I broke stuff.

Can we request Mcshay abstain from talking about ND...EVER!
 

Sherm Sticky

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oooo...I don't like that...that guy is certifiably incompetent.

I'd put more on Peter King having a rational thought on the college game than Mcshay...and the last time King had an opinion about ND, I broke stuff.

Can we request Mcshay abstain from talking about ND...EVER!
I think i'm the only person on this site who thinks Todd McShay isn't that bad an analyst. Is he a douche? Yes, but his player evaluation isn't bad at all.
 

phgreek

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I think i'm the only person on this site who thinks Todd McShay isn't that bad an analyst. Is he a douche? Yes, but his player evaluation isn't bad at all.

no doubt I'm bitter about his workover of Jimmy...but this was an article from last year that supports my opinion of him...

“McShay does not have any good connections,” the source opined. “Higher-ups in the league think he is an arrogant *******. A know-it-all. And he really knows nothing. Whatever he says about a quarterback, take it to the bank, it will be the opposite. Remember, last August he stated that Jevan Snead was better than Colt McCoy and would get drafted in the top five. He has yet to publicly retract that statement.

“One of the reasons the kid came out was because of what McShay said. The family thought McShay knew and everyone else was wrong. . . . He has problems with game management, accuracy and leadership among other things, but pretty boy Todd thought he was great because of one good game (the Cotton Bowl) a year ago. McShay is a pretty face who comes across like he knows what he is talking about. He does have good presence, but knows nothing.”

A common name we’ve heard when it comes to McShay is Andre Woodson. McShay championed Woodson during the 2007 season. Woodson ended up being a sixth-round pick, and he’s now out of the league.

The teams knew that Woodson wasn’t as good as McShay was saying. The problem is that the player and his family don’t have access to what the teams are thinking. The player and his family see and hear the stuff that gets played on television, and they tend to believe it when ESPN attaches to the talking head the phony, official-sounding title of “director of college scouting.”

But not all draft experts fall into that category.

“The best guy in the amateur scouting/draftnik business in Mike Mayock,” the source said. “Mike does more film work then any of those other guys put together. He is the only one who has access to the NFL dub center where all the college tapes go before they get distributed to the teams. He watches hours and hours of tape. You might not always agree with his evaluations but he works hard at it and you have to respect that.”

"In our view, McShay does present well on television, where the requirement isn’t to know what you’re talking about but to seem like you know what you’re talking about. But we’ve heard from more than a few people who work as NFL scouts that McShay doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Right or wrong, those voices will only get louder in their criticism as McShay gets more air time — and as he becomes more pointed with criticisms of players that NFL scouts regard as erroneous."


In short I think the guy is a hack...he is a pretty face to put on TV, and he acts like he has a clue...but anyone who listens to him seems to get hurt...
 

WhoDeyIrish

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Reps for Mayock. (man is the definition of pro)

Even though he has a few "catch-phrases" that really irritate me, he is spot on with his analysis, most of the time. I have been watching the NFL Draft on NFL Network for as long as I can remember because of him. I hardly ever put it on ESPN to watch those goofs. Mel Kiper isn't bad but I really can't stand McShay. I admire all of the hard-work these guys do though.
 

AdmiralBackhand

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Even though he has a few "catch-phrases" that really irritate me, he is spot on with his analysis, most of the time. I have been watching the NFL Draft on NFL Network for as long as I can remember because of him. I hardly ever put it on ESPN to watch those goofs. Mel Kiper isn't bad but I really can't stand McShay. I admire all of the hard-work these guys do though.

What a great eff'n job, eh?
 

ulukinatme

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I like our chances as underdog and FSU talking crap more than if we were favored and expected to dominate. Too often we fail to live up to expectations, but you can always be pleasantly surprised if they come out with a win
 

NDMontana

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The Forde Yard Douche picking against Notre Dame? Now when he has ever done that? He's a huge ND fan.
 

Chamellion

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Damn, analysts have us losing the game. Why should we even bother playing it now?
 
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