Brian Kelly Press Conference

[NDOM]

Well then, I guess correct grammar is more important than substance on these forums.

That was more of a shout out to my boy Neutered! Nothing against you bro. You are good. Nothing personal. lol

 

[50milesSE ND]

Right, because I don't share the same opinion as you do, then I'm the one that "doesn't get it". Uh huh.

I get it just fine. I've seen nothing in BK's time here that shows we are going in some kind of different direction. The losses look the same, the mental mistakes look the same. I guess if you call not throwing a deep fade 40 times a game progress, then ok, there's some progress. Or do I still not get it?

I think the sky is falling for alot fans when we lose the game. It's not even 2 years into the BK era, and some fans are looking for the next savior. I want wins now is what we all want, but some people just can't wait for good things to happen. The comments on this I'm sure will have people split, but I'm tired of the coaching carousel around here. Improvements are made everyday in practice that we may not see right away in games. Thats where the rebuilding a program begins. That's what people don't get....

 

[50milesSE ND]

That was more of a shout out to my boy Neutered! Nothing against you bro. You are good. Nothing personal. lol

I know nothing personal. It makes me laugh all the time when I see it.

 

[Irish Fam]

Yea guys, let's fire BK!

Then fire the next coach after a couple tough losses in 1.5 years.

And the next one...

 

[irishff1014]

Kelly is a good coach. What good is it to fire him or any other coach of his? Starting with another new coach isn't the answer.

 

[jonesman]

Guys,
This is really simple math.
13 TURNOVERS = 3 LOSSES!!!!!

You can pick out bad coaching calls. We can pick out bad schemes. However, NONE of that matters when you turn the ball over at critical times and give points with the turnovers.

All three turnovers last night were 7 points. The last did not result in points, but only because USC ran out the clock.

I am as pissed as the next guy, but reality is we lost by 14 points. We gave USC those 14 points!!!

We were 2 yards from tying the game at 17-17, but it became 24-10 in seconds.

Sadly, most of our turnovers are bad plays by us, not great plays by our opponents.

Crist fumbles unforced. YUCK!!

Rees and Cierre combine for a bad screen pass.

Then the dagger. Rees forces a ball into triple coverage when a wideopen Jonas never gets looked at.

Shameful turnovers!!!

 

[BeauBenken]

My face when I see people blame Kelly on the teams turnovers:

God, I can't wait til I'm coaching at ND and you guys are busting my balls for stupid mistakes made by the players...

 

[DillonHall]

Whoever even thinks about firing Kelly at this point is a dumb *** and you can go **** yourself

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

Err, I'm starting to wonder if some of you actually read posts or not. I'm scouring this thread looking for anyone who is calling for Kelly to be fired, and I'm not seeing it. Ludz came closest with "Kelly is overrated". You must be reading a different thread, or in your world some ill defined criticism = call for change.

Odd, very odd.

 

[Domer4ever]

Whoever even thinks about firing Kelly at this point is a dumb *** and you can go **** yourself

There is no need to even think about firing Kelly at this point. This team could easily be undefeated right now if not for shooting themselves in the foot on a consistant basis. But I would like to see Kelly do a couple things that seem pretty obvious:

1. Re-evaluate the QB position. It's tough at this point in the season, but Rees is just so darn inconsistant at this point. We are hitting a point in the schedule where if they were to make a switch to Golston or Hendrix, now would be the time.

2. Jonas Gray needs to be the feature back and Wood the change of pace/3rd down back, not the other way around. This team needs to pound the ball with Gray early and let Wood gash them late in games.

3. Enough with this 34 defensive scheme. It generates no pressure and leaves too many gaps against a power running game. Move to a 43 front and get more of your talented defensive lineman on the field at one time.

 

[aubeirish]

Firing is not the answer by any mean. We need to build consistency. Changing the coach every 3-4 years will only keep us in mediocrity forever. Give the guy some time before calling his head. It's only year 2. It takes time.

 

[50milesSE ND]

Kelly is building a program here.. Think about what he has done so far. Training table for proper nutrition, the players are in better shape due to healthier eating, and Longo conditioning. Fundamentals of playing the game I do believe are being taught everyday which is why you must learn what you are doing first then apply to games. He is recruiting talent on both sides arguably something that Weis couldn't even do with the bling ring, and what alot didn't think BK could do. I believe he truly understands and transcends what Notre Dame is. Sorry to the negative types, but he has a history for getting it done. He will get it done.....

 

[Dizzyphil]

You know, I respect Kelly - he reminds me of two people in certain ways, Holtz and Ronald Reagan. Kelly speaks well and is a good motivator like Holtz and Reagan. Holtz was a great motivator and coach, Reagan was a good speaker and people listened and both were followed - good leaders. Unlike the past three coaches before Kelly, Kelly to me seems to be a good leader (and screamer!! lol)

Kelly is building something, for God's sake, it is his second year and his recruits look more promising than the majority of the recruits the preceeding coaches had. We haven't seen all of them yet but soon will. Kids are following and buying into Kelly's scheme; hell I'm 43 and buying it. Yesterday, the Irish played bad and I truly believe Kelly is going to let them know this week how bad they played. We will know come Navy.

Diz

 

[Dizzyphil]

extra post to get off 666..... lol

 

[IrishChris209]

Right, because I don't share the same opinion as you do, then I'm the one that "doesn't get it". Uh huh.

I get it just fine. I've seen nothing in BK's time here that shows we are going in some kind of different direction. The losses look the same, the mental mistakes look the same. I guess if you call not throwing a deep fade 40 times a game progress, then ok, there's some progress. Or do I still not get it?

+1

 

[IrishChris209]

Guys,
This is really simple math.
13 TURNOVERS = 3 LOSSES!!!!!

You can pick out bad coaching calls. We can pick out bad schemes. However, NONE of that matters when you turn the ball over at critical times and give points with the turnovers.

All three turnovers last night were 7 points. The last did not result in points, but only because USC ran out the clock.

I am as pissed as the next guy, but reality is we lost by 14 points. We gave USC those 14 points!!!

We were 2 yards from tying the game at 17-17, but it became 24-10 in seconds.

Sadly, most of our turnovers are bad plays by us, not great plays by our opponents.

Crist fumbles unforced. YUCK!!

Rees and Cierre combine for a bad screen pass.

Then the dagger. Rees forces a ball into triple coverage when a wideopen Jonas never gets looked at.

Shameful turnovers!!!

but if it is the SAME kids making the mistakes then it is bad coaching. DAMN hold them accountable and sit their ***! I mean if I have a kid who isn't performing, I play the next one. What's the worst thats going to happen? We lose? Hell, we are already doing that!

 

[IrishChris209]

I think the sky is falling for alot fans when we lose the game. It's not even 2 years into the BK era, and some fans are looking for the next savior. I want wins now is what we all want, but some people just can't wait for good things to happen. The comments on this I'm sure will have people split, but I'm tired of the coaching carousel around here. Improvements are made everyday in practice that we may not see right away in games. Thats where the rebuilding a program begins. That's what people don't get....

How long do we wait again. It's the same thing when TY was herehe had Stanford winning and then what happened? Then along came Charlie and he was going to turn this around with his rings. What heppened?Now we have BK who took a turned around Cincy. I have a feeling in another year and a half we will be finding someone else again, who is going to "TURN THIS AROUND". I really hope not but I am a realist.

 

[Old North State Irish]

Recruit News

Recruit News

Any news from the recruits that were there?

 

[WaveDomer]

How long do we wait again. It's the same thing when TY was herehe had Stanford winning and then what happened? Then along came Charlie and he was going to turn this around with his rings. What heppened?Now we have BK who took a turned around Cincy. I have a feeling in another year and a half we will be finding someone else again, who is going to "TURN THIS AROUND". I really hope not but I am a realist.

Losses happen. If you are a realist, then I think you should realize that BK is getting his 5 years. The team played a bad game. They got pushed around at the LOS, and when they did get pressure you have a QB in Barkley who is making all the right calls. The guy is good and his performance has a lot to do with why we lost. That pass to Woods was perfect and so was the catch. Even with getting pushed around ND had a legitimate chance to win the game. The goal line fumble for a TD is some kind of fluke garbage that's happened to us 3 times this year: SF strip right to a guy on the run, Denard picks up a fumble on the run with nobody near him and then last night the ball rolls 15 yards right to a guy with an open field in front of him. We had trouble stopping the run and came out flat, but I thought both the D and the O actually adjusted a bit and brought the game back to within a win. Then the critical errors. But that's the game. Sometimes you lay an egg.

BK may or may not be the guy, but you can't tell that after a year and a half. You just can't. That's the realist position, in my opinion.

 

[pumpdog20]

I believe this team is just not as good as we were hoping. I realize that we've had so many turnovers but we've lost to what is turning out to be mediocre USF and Mich teams. USC is good but not great. I cannot believe USC was able to remove Floyd from the game. Why couldn't we do that to R. Wood? We have way more options on offense then USC does.

ND was a lot slower than USC (other than Atkinson and Gray) as a whole. That's why they had to play so far back with our DBs. Teo just was not getting off the blocks and was out of position a lot. C. Wood would be dancing so much and cost us first downs. There were at least three plays where if he would have just ran straight it was there, but then he'd do a juke or spin move and cost us yards.

I'm a BK supporter and I believe he's the man to turn this around. He's getting the players and once he has the QB he needs this offense will be unbeatable. When he gets a system QB, we won't wait all play clock to read the offense so Rees can make the right call. With the right QB, they'll get the play call and move. We'll finally see the fast pace offense we keep hearing about.

The best thing that is happening with BK that did not happen with CW and TW is that we are not having BCS type years in the beginning and then realizing after year 3 that they suck. I believe we are seeing progression and BK will get us to where we as a ND team and fan base want to be.

 

[50milesSE ND]

I believe this team is just not as good as we were hoping. I realize that we've had so many turnovers but we've lost to what is turning out to be mediocre USF and Mich teams. USC is good but not great. I cannot believe USC was able to remove Floyd from the game. Why couldn't we do that to R. Wood? We have way more options on offense then USC does.

ND was a lot slower than USC (other than Atkinson and Gray) as a whole. That's why they had to play so far back with our DBs. Teo just was not getting off the blocks and was out of position a lot. C. Wood would be dancing so much and cost us first downs. There were at least three plays where if he would have just ran straight it was there, but then he'd do a juke or spin move and cost us yards.

I'm a BK supporter and I believe he's the man to turn this around. He's getting the players and once he has the QB he needs this offense will be unbeatable. When he gets a system QB, we won't wait all play clock to read the offense so Rees can make the right call. With the right QB, they'll get the play call and move. We'll finally see the fast pace offense we keep hearing about.

The best thing that is happening with BK that did not happen with CW and TW is that we are not having BCS type years in the beginning and then realizing after year 3 that they suck. I believe we are seeing progression and BK will get us to where we as a ND team and fan base want to be.

agree...

 

[50milesSE ND]

How long do we wait again. It's the same thing when TY was herehe had Stanford winning and then what happened? Then along came Charlie and he was going to turn this around with his rings. What heppened?Now we have BK who took a turned around Cincy. I have a feeling in another year and a half we will be finding someone else again, who is going to "TURN THIS AROUND". I really hope not but I am a realist.

Ty was average coach at best. I remember watching espn the season, and if you think he knew what he was doing in practice then you didn't even probably play football in highschool because that's what it looked like to me. Get real if you're such a realist.

 

[jmoodie]

I loved the fire of the PC. No sugar coating.

"I can't put a stink meter on losing. They all stink."

He didn't blame players by name. But still called the players out. That's how you do it.

 

[TerryTate]

If you can't see improvement in this team vs. the 2007-8 squads there's no hope for you.


ND will win and lose based on the QB in this offense. Until the BS turnovers stop, we're going to lose games we should win.

 

[IrishLax]

If you can't see improvement in this team vs. the 2007-8 squads there's no hope for you.


ND will win and lose based on the QB in this offense. Until the BS turnovers don't stop, we're going to lose games we should win.

Reps. It's really that simple.

 

[DillonHall]

If you can't see improvement in this team vs. the 2007-8 squads there's no hope for you.


ND will win and lose based on the QB in this offense. Until the BS turnovers don't stop, we're going to lose games we should win.

Exactly, and I even think the 2011 version is better than 2009 and 2010. It's so obvious that the team's moving in the right direction that I can't understand some of these negative posts.

 

[DCirishfan]

I think that this team is barely headed in the right direction. I think that this game was a huge setback, yet again. I think that it is a bit bafeling that we can turn in such a turd of a game on national TV at night and we are supposed to see it as part of progress. I see no benefit to these types of poor performances. I surely do not feel that the coaching staff is doing a great job. Satisfactory? Maybe but that remains to be seen. Really depressed.

 

[jmoodie]

I think that this team is barely headed in the right direction. I think that this game was a huge setback, yet again. I think that it is a bit bafeling that we can turn in such a turd of a game on national TV at night and we are supposed to see it as part of progress. I see no benefit to these types of poor performances. I surely do not feel that the coaching staff is doing a great job. Satisfactory? Maybe but that remains to be seen. Really depressed.

Not that this is for sure what is happening here, but improvement is not always directly linear.

 

[Old Man Mike]

The last comment above about improvement not being directly related linearly to wins and losses is brilliant, and should have been understood by everyone all along. People who only relate to the record IN A BUILDING SITUATION are being incredibly simplistic in their [lack of] analysis.

Even downgrading the Coach for players not yet being the right players for the systems [and modern speed football] is incredibly simplistic and wrong-headed. If one could look at the recruiting efforts and STILL say that he is not recruiting the correct types of athletes, well then one might have a defensible argument. I believe that such an argument cannot be made.

As to the press conference, I thought that it was on target, especially when one considers the burdens of a myriad of disappointments in certain player performance. In what I think was a second press meeting [the one just put up on ISD "Morning Coffee"], Kelly was VERY frank about Carlo's unsportsmanlike, and did not voice objection as to whether it was a bad call. Coach clearly is angry with Carlo without mentioning his name. Coach DID express a "difference of opinion" about Slaughter's alleged helmet-to-helmet [I COMPLETELY agree with this and angrily yelled about it at the time] as well as the chickensh!t motion penalty on Watt. He said that he is sending the clips to the officials to complain.

He's not very sympathetic to Dayne for the fumble. One can debate whether Dayne needs coddling on this --- Kelly doesn't believe so.

The subtler thing that was in there that may be talked about somewhere on this board was his comment about Cierre. He didn't just express some vaguely almost neutral remark here, but instead said that Cierre did not perform in the manner that we expect of a Notre Dame football player. Yow! I don't like the sound of that. I hope that it was just somewhat over-the-top language [which he never does in any negative way] that was poorly interpretable by listeners like me. Because the sense seems to be something more than just blowing assignments or poor running. Maybe someone can say something a little more soothing to me about that.

 

[Grahambo]

Between Bob Davie, Ty Willingham, and Charlie Weis, they have nothing on the current direction of this team. BK is not only trying to build a championship team but also trying to rebuild the identity of Notre Dame football. He has had a year and a half to tear down the past 20 years of misery, specifically since the start of the Davie regime.