Giving Crist a Second Chance

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How close are you to giving Crist another chance? I think he at least deserves some snaps, I mean come on, the guy only threw one interception and everyone is blowing up over it. I think Kelly just wants the guy he recruited to start getting time just so that he can say that he is winning with his guys, not Charlie's.
 

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Play him next time we have no momentum and are losing at half. That would be fair wouldn't it?
 

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How close are you to giving Crist another chance? I think he at least deserves some snaps, I mean come on, the guy only threw one interception and everyone is blowing up over it.

He didn't get benched simply for throwing an interception.

I think Kelly just wants the guy he recruited to start getting time just so that he can say that he is winning with his guys, not Charlie's.

The vast majority of our current two-deep is made up of former Weis recruits. Kelly has more at stake than anyone in whether we win or lose. I sincerely doubt he cares who initially recruited a player as long as the kid can help him win now.

Edit: And as noted below, Rees was a Weis recruit. The level of fail in your OP is increasing by the minute.
 
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Btw Rees was a Weiss recruit
 

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I supported Crist getting the job out of camp, and I think Kelly's leash was pretty short with him. Also, I think posters here who say that he sucks and that he has never done anything must have slept through the Michigan and Michigan State games last year.

Having said all of that, there is no point of rehashing this debate at this particular time. Regardless of who we would be starting at QB, the reality is that we are not coaching and there is no QB controversy at this time. Also, while people like me might believe that Rees is not appreciably better than Crist, I think it is only fair to concede that Crist is not appreciably better than Rees, either. Rees is good enough to win with. Let's just roll with that until we can't anymore.
 
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I'm kind of shocked he's even playing Floyd at receiver. You'd think he'd have one of his receiving recruits in there so that way he can say he won with his guys and not Weis'.

Come on, man. He's a professional. He wants to win.
 

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The fact that some folks still think he got pulled purely for performance issues is astounding.

He came off the field like a man defeated, he may of said some things as well that got him pulled.

It was lack of leadership that got him pulled. BK has done everything but say it outright.

Furthermore: This again?
 

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How close are you to giving Crist another chance? I think he at least deserves some snaps, I mean come on, the guy only threw one interception and everyone is blowing up over it. I think Kelly just wants the guy he recruited to start getting time just so that he can say that he is winning with his guys, not Charlie's.

I hear ya! I say Kelly should 't stop there! Bench #3 at WR & #5 at LB because they were recruited by Weiss as well. Hell, just get rid of all of the players that he didn't personally recruit. Ishaq, recruited by an assistant, so kick him to the curb.








I do hope that it is obvious that I am being EXTREMELY sarcastic. Coach Kelly could care less who recruited whom. His job is to win with the players that are enrolled at Notre Dame, whether he brought them there or not. No one recruited our placekicker, he was found on campus if I am not mistaken. That certainly hasn't stopped Coach Kelly from playing him
 

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Who recruited who has nothing to do with it.

I think it really comes down to Kelly's preference between two equal but very different guys.

Crist is probably a 8/10 in tools and 7/10 in makeup; Rees is probably 6/10 in tools and 9/10 in makeup. They're both 15's (in my example), and Kelly apparently feels he can win with the slightly less toolsy guy, but he has to have a QB with the right makeup.
 

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Kelly stated several times he knows he doesn't have the personel that he needs to run his system and will not force them to try. He stated he will do the best he can to play into the strengths of the players on the roster previoius to him. He has done that fairly well.
 
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Kelly stated several times he knows he doesn't have the personel that he needs to run his system and will not force them to try. He stated he will do the best he can to play into the strengths of the players on the roster previoius to him. He has done that fairly well.
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Invest in the future not the unproven past. We have very limited time with crist. By the time he "gets it" he will be gone. Put your time in someone who will be around to benefit from it.
 

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This is making me feel like i am watching ground hog day. This poor horse has been dead for about 3 weeks i think can we please stop beating it.
 

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how well does tommy have to do for this to stop? maybe if we wins a hesiman or 2 the ignorance will stop
 
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No worries lads. 7-1 is all you need to know. Dayne doesn't have a chance in hell of ever starting again unless there's an injury. That ship has sailed.
 

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One last desperate attempt by me to add a dimension to the "why did Coach go with Tommy?" Aeternal Mystery: Kelly has already told us why and told us several times why Dayne's not in there. To decipher this, you have to listen to what Coach immediately says when asked what he sees in Tommy.

He says things like: "natural understanding of offense and the game"; he says "toughmindedness" and "leadership"; he says "he'll make a mistake but won't let it bother him the next play". The point is NOT what he's telling you about Tommy, but what he's telling you about DAYNE.

Kelly is not going to say such things [in the negative] attached to Crist's name---there is NO positive gain under any category in doing that--- but listen to the man: listen to the context especially earlier when reporters were trying to get Coach to compare the two. Kelly IS telling us that there's more to his decision than the first half of the USF game.

"For those who have ears to hear, hear."
 
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One last desperate attempt by me to add a dimension to the "why did Coach go with Tommy?" Aeternal Mystery: Kelly has already told us why and told us several times why Dayne's not in there. To decipher this, you have to listen to what Coach immediately says when asked what he sees in Tommy.

He says things like: "natural understanding of offense and the game"; he says "toughmindedness" and "leadership"; he says "he'll make a mistake but won't let it bother him the next play". The point is NOT what he's telling you about Tommy, but what he's telling you about DAYNE.

Kelly is not going to say such things [in the negative] attached to Crist's name---there is NO positive gain under any category in doing that--- but listen to the man: listen to the context especially earlier when reporters were trying to get Coach to compare the two. Kelly IS telling us that there's more to his decision than the first half of the USF game.

"For those who have ears to hear, hear."

This is about as spot on as it gets. Well said.
 

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How close are you to giving Crist another chance? I think he at least deserves some snaps, I mean come on, the guy only threw one interception and everyone is blowing up over it. I think Kelly just wants the guy he recruited to start getting time just so that he can say that he is winning with his guys, not Charlie's.

A Weis Recruit!
 
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