Anwar al-Awlaki Dead

TerryTate

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The implications of killing an American citizen without even a trial are scary though.

An American that's advocating the killing of other American citizens through terrorist acts and has links to Al-Qaeda?
 

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I was more surprised that the article states that an Al-Qeda magazine even exists.
 

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The implications of killing an American citizen without even a trial are scary though.

I'm not sure that the classification of him being an American citizen is equal to your or my neighbor. If he was born in the U.S., he is technically a citizen. But he also has Yemeni citizenship, which makes me think that he was born here, but spent very little time here. I can make a distinction between someone who was born in a US hospital, and a guy that grew up and lived most of his life in Anytown, Iowa. Some people see it in more black and white terms. I understand that, I just don't agree that things are that cut and dried.
 

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Do you think he ever would have joined Al-Qeida if he couldn't grow a beard?

And I ask this is in all seriousness.
 

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The implications of killing an American citizen without even a trial are scary though.

HAHAHA, oh man you're funny. I laughed so hard... wait you weren't joking... awkward



Obviously, you're completely naive as to what goes on in the world. Don't worry, keep drinking your Starbuck's and thinking the world revolves around you.

I'm glad he is dead. The world is a safer place.
 

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I'm not sure that the classification of him being an American citizen is equal to your or my neighbor. If he was born in the U.S., he is technically a citizen. But he also has Yemeni citizenship, which makes me think that he was born here, but spent very little time here. I can make a distinction between someone who was born in a US hospital, and a guy that grew up and lived most of his life in Anytown, Iowa. Some people see it in more black and white terms. I understand that, I just don't agree that things are that cut and dried.

He was born in the US, but his family moved back to Yemen when he was 7. He returned to work on several college degrees throughout the '90s.
 

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HAHAHA, oh man you're funny. I laughed so hard... wait you weren't joking... awkward



Obviously, you're completely naive as to what goes on in the world. Don't worry, keep drinking your Starbuck's and thinking the world revolves around you.

I'm glad he is dead. The world is a safer place.


Personal attacks are fun...
 

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I don't think the distinction really has to do with American citizenship. If it had happened on American soil, then it would be a huge scandal as a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act. If an American citizen is deemed an enemy combatant on foreign soil, I have no problem with this.

If he was sitting in his living room on Main Street USA, watching a baseball game, and the men in the black fatigues and masks were to break down his door and put two to the chest and one to the head - then I might have a problem with it. As it is now...F HIM!
 

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When you step on a roach outside your house, the only reason you wonder where it came from is so you can find them and step on the rest. Good Riddance, on to the next one.
 

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My only question is why this man also dined at the pentagon 10 years ago, after 9/11.

EXCLUSIVE: Al Qaeda Leader Dined At The Pentagon Just Months After 9/11 | Fox News

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When it comes to managing our economy, I don't much care for anyone in Washington these days, but they are doing one kick @ss stellar job with assassinations this year!
 

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He was born in the US, but his family moved back to Yemen when he was 7. He returned to work on several college degrees throughout the '90s.

I see where he was born in Las Cruces, NM. Any idea what his father did for a living? A large number of people in Las Cruces are involved in the US's nuclear research/bomb building industry.

THAT would be the scary thing: that this guy's father may have worked in a very sensitive national defense related field.
 

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I read it like....."Anwar al---uhhhh no way!"

I'm happy the bastard is dead. American or not...he committed treason and deserves to die without trial.
 

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I see where he was born in Las Cruces, NM. Any idea what his father did for a living? A large number of people in Las Cruces are involved in the US's nuclear research/bomb building industry.

THAT would be the scary thing: that this guy's father may have worked in a very sensitive national defense related field.

His father, Nasser al-Aulaqi, was a Fulbright Scholar who earned a master's degree in agricultural economics at New Mexico State University in 1971, received a doctorate at the University of Nebraska, and worked at the University of Minnesota from 1975 to 1977. (Source)
 

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My only question is why this man also dined at the pentagon 10 years ago, after 9/11.

EXCLUSIVE: Al Qaeda Leader Dined At The Pentagon Just Months After 9/11 | Fox News

He started off as a very articulate Imam that spoke both English and Arabic. He was young, energetic, and well-spoken. After 9/11, the US wanted to reach out the Muslim community and he seemed like an ideal person to learn from.

That all changed when he moved to Yemen. Not really sure why the change in mentality, but he didn't start off like that.
 
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An American that's advocating the killing of other American citizens through terrorist acts and has links to Al-Qaeda?

What can the government stretch to make someone a "terrorist"? Even though he was a terrible person and worked with a terrible organization of terrible people, he was still an American citizen. American citizens have freedom of speech and the right to due process, and a strong argument that al-Awlaki was deprived of both of them for being executed for being a propagandist while not getting a trial.

The problem is that it opens a floodgate on what the U.S. can kill their own citizens for.
 

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What can the government stretch to make someone a "terrorist"? Even though he was a terrible person and worked with a terrible organization of terrible people, he was still an American citizen. American citizens have freedom of speech and the right to due process, and a strong argument that al-Awlaki was deprived of both of them for being executed for being a propagandist while not getting a trial.

The problem is that it opens a floodgate on what the U.S. can kill their own citizens for.

I don't think this could be used as a precedent for someone on American soil speaking against the government... at all.

Freedom of speech does not include inciting terrorism. Sorry, that's not gonna fly in this argument. He was living in Yemen full time, was a leader of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, and planned several terrorist attacks against the US and its allies. He was not a propagandist, no matter how much the media wants to spin this. He was much much more.

The problem is that it opens a floodgate on what the U.S. can kill their own citizens for.

Floodgate? ... I highly doubt the government really wants to start killing Americans. This is not a conspiracy.
 

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I am sure the Hell Fire missile asked him to freeze and surrender so he can "face trial" in a WAR ZONE.
 

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What can the government stretch to make someone a "terrorist"? Even though he was a terrible person and worked with a terrible organization of terrible people, he was still an American citizen. American citizens have freedom of speech and the right to due process, and a strong argument that al-Awlaki was deprived of both of them for being executed for being a propagandist while not getting a trial.

The problem is that it opens a floodgate on what the U.S. can kill their own citizens for.

And, if the government steps too far over it's boundaries, We the People will put them back in their place.

Just ask the British!
 
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And, if the government steps too far over it's boundaries, We the People will put them back in their place.

Just ask the British!

I'm glad you have so much faith in the system, unless you mean a revolution. Then you are a targeted killing if you ever go overseas!
 

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I'm glad you have so much faith in the system, unless you mean a revolution. Then you are a targeted killing if you ever go overseas!

This is the fallacy of this whole argument. There is a big difference between me making a joke on a Notre Dame football site, and one of the leaders of the largest terrorist group on the planet. Yet people (including yourself, maybe) seem to think that the government can't make a distinction between the two. Or, even if the government can't, that the American people will stand idly by and watch from the sidelines.
 
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