Irish Envy First Annual Mock Draft

[irishpat183]

With the 14th pick, The St. Louis Rams select Corey Liuget, DT from Illinois

While we all know that the Rams need help BIG TIME at WR(which is why they HAVE to trade this pick to snag either Green or Jones), taking the next WR this early would be a huge stretch. Liuget is a monster in the trenches and would help up the middle day one. Crazy motor and chases down plays from behind. He would help out with depth, giving old Fred robbins a breather. Solid mid first round pick.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

With the 14th pick, The St. Louis Rams select Corey Liuget, DT from Illinois

While we all know that the Rams need help BIG TIME at WR(which is why they HAVE to trade this pick to snag either Green or Jones), taking the next WR this early would be a huge stretch. Liuget is a monster in the trenches and would help up the middle day one. Crazy motor and chases down plays from behind. He would help out with depth, giving old Fred robbins a breather. Solid mid first round pick.

Might be a little to high for this kid, but I'm one of the people who loves him! Great pick, he will be a stud!

 

[IrishLax]

With the 14th pick, The St. Louis Rams select Corey Liuget, DT from Illinois

While we all know that the Rams need help BIG TIME at WR(which is why they HAVE to trade this pick to snag either Green or Jones), taking the next WR this early would be a huge stretch. Liuget is a monster in the trenches and would help up the middle day one. Crazy motor and chases down plays from behind. He would help out with depth, giving old Fred robbins a breather. Solid mid first round pick.

I like your thought process. Personally, I think the Rams will have their pick of quality WRs in the second round. No way both Little (who I am very high on) and Baldwin are both off the board.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

I like your thought process. Personally, I think the Rams will have their pick of quality WRs in the second round. No way both Little (who I am very high on) and Baldwin are both off the board.

High on Little? SMH...Talented kid, but personally I don't like him or want him on m y team.

 

[mgriff]

WhoDeyIrish won the PM competition, but irishpat182 just went ahead and posted his pick. In any event, WhoDeyIrish will get the next no show, followed by IronMan8. I'll post my pick in a minute once I update the front page.

 

[GEORGIA DOMER]

has anyone seen or heard from this mgriff guy taking a really long time on his pick i say skip him whos with me

 

[mgriff]

The Dolphins have a ton of holes to fill, most notably at the QB position. Ideally, I would like the Dolphins to trade down at this point, but I can't do that, so I have to choose between the best on the board, DE Quinn (NC), DE J.J. Watt (WIS), OT Tyron Smith (USC), OT Nate Solder (CU), and the pick everyone sees us going with, RB Mark Ingram (AL). Add in the sprinkling of QBs like Mallet and Ponder which the Dolphins so desperately need and I have quite a decision to make. I would use the best available philosophy but we just drafted Odrick last year to play DE in our 3-4 and Cameron Wake has become a terrific pass threat this year for us, so I'm shying away from that great DE talent. Mark Ingram is a good player, there is no doubt about that, but I don't think he is elite, and I don't think I would pick him at 15. He may turn out to be the next Emmit Smith and prove me wrong, but that remains to be seen. If it does happen, we can just add that the long list of Dolphin draft blunders. Instead, I'm staying on the offensive side of the ball...

With 15th pick, the Dolphins select OT Tyron Smith (USC). Call me crazy, but let me explain. I'm pretty sick of Henne getting destroyed from the right side because Vernon Carey and our other RTs can't block a speed rush, or stay healthy enough to matter. Two bookend tackles in Long and Smith on the outside, with Incognito, Berger, and Jerry on the interior should shore up our line and give us plenty of depth to get through the season with the backups, something that hasn't happened in recent memory. He's one of the highest ranked players still available, and gives us good value along with a position of need, at least in my estimation.

WhoDeyIrish is on the clock.

 

[WhoDeyIrish]

(Rushing to the podium) With the 16th pick in the NFL the Jacksonville Jaguars select Robert Quinn DE from North Carolina. I know generally that the Jaguars select high character guys and JJ Watt or Ryan Kerrigan might be a better fit but the Jaguars didn't think a guy like this would slip to them, so they are putting character issues aside. Robert Quinn is possibly the best pass rusher in the draft having 11 sacks as a Sophomore and sat out a year because of a suspension. We have seen that a year off for players hasn't hurt draft stock (Bradford). Jacksonville might not opt for a player like Quinn but I believe he is a better pure pass rusher than Bowers and is probably the best pass rushing DE to come out in a long time. Watching him sophomore year I saw a man amongst boys, he still is only 20 years old. Kid is going to be special and the Jags looked the other way this time.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

The Dolphins would also be able to move Carey to the inside if they made that selection.

 

[mgriff]

Easily the best player left on the board, but it's still a decision to make against Watt and Kerrigan. Nice to see you hustled up

The ever impatient Me2SouthBend is on the clock

 

[Sherm Sticky]

(Rushing to the podium) With the 16th pick in the NFL the Jacksonville Jaguars select Robert Quinn DE from North Carolina. I know generally that the Jaguars select high character guys and JJ Watt or Ryan Kerrigan might be a better fit but the Jaguars didn't think a guy like this would slip to them, so they are putting character issues aside. Robert Quinn is possibly the best pass rusher in the draft having 11 sacks as a Sophomore and sat out a year because of a suspension. We have seen that a year off for players hasn't hurt draft stock (Bradford). Jacksonville might not opt for a player like Quinn but I believe he is a better pure pass rusher than Bowers and is probably the best pass rushing DE to come out in a long time. Watching him sophomore year I saw a man amongst boys, he still is only 20 years old. Kid is going to be special and the Jags looked the other way this time.

Steal of the draft so far.

 

[WhoDeyIrish]

Yeah I had to check and make sure a couple times that he hadn't been picked yet.

 

[mgriff]

The Dolphins would also be able to move Carey to the inside if they made that selection.

He's very good on his day and at what he does, but he struggles against speed and the interior may suit him better at this stage of his career. Incog and Center could solve that problem and really give us a strong line, as center would be the weakest position in my hypothetical lineup without a healthy Grove.

 

[mgriff]

Yeah I had to check and make sure a couple times that he hadn't been picked yet.

Haha I did the same thing. I was looking like, really, he's not off yet? I wanted to pick him but we just got Odrick and Wake was a beast this year.

I'll be in the Champions League Draw thread chatting with ACamp throughout the matches, which may have been renamed to Everything European Football or Everything Soccer thread by now. I'll be in there if you guys need me to update the front page or put someone on the clock.

 

[WhoDeyIrish]

Only thing about the Liuget pick is I believe he slips for one and I believe in the 2nd and 3rd rounds there is plenty of talent at the DT position, I don't believe he is head and shoulders above the other guys. I think hes a second tier guy but will be a very productive player and he isn't so much of a reach there.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

With the 17th pick of the 2011 Draft, The New England Patriots select Nate Solder from the University of Colorado. Solder is one of the highest rated tackles in the draft and with the pending free aganecy of Matt Light, the ongoing disgruntlement of Logan Mankins and the recent retirement of Stephen Neal, the Pats need a new book end to pair with Sebastian Vollmer. The 6' 8" 319 lb. Solder accomplishes this. Solder is better at pass protection than run blocking and Tommy Franchise needs all the protection he can get. I will actually be shocked if Belicheck doesn't trade down a couple of times, but that isn't an option in this forum, so we'll start w some beef up front.

 

[mgriff]

NDLacrosse is on the clock.

 

[irishpat183]

WhoDeyIrish won the PM competition, but irishpat182 just went ahead and posted his pick. In any event, WhoDeyIrish will get the next no show, followed by IronMan8. I'll post my pick in a minute once I update the front page.

My bad, WhodeyIrish! And I still think Liuget is worthy of the mid 1st round. If not for talent level, for the simple fact that none of their other needs would warrant this pick. I doubt they'll reach on a WR like Little or Baldwin this early, and same could be said for an OLB or RB. Again, I think they trade up to grab one of the top WR's, but this is a no trade draft....

 

[irishpat183]

High on Little? SMH...Talented kid, but personally I don't like him or want him on m y team.

Same way I feel about Little. Glad he didn't come to ND. But this is the NFL. He is very talented and I think will be a huge get in the 2nd round.

 

[mgriff]

for the simple fact that none of their other needs would warrant this pick.

Famous last words by many front offices! Drafting for need is nice if it's an option, but the best philosophy is best available, or a mixture of the two. Drafting purely on need forces teams to reach for what they want and overvalue them. I'm not saying your pick was bad by any means, I don't think it was terrible, just offering some insight on "reaching."

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Famous last words by many front offices! Drafting for need is nice if it's an option, but the best philosophy is best available, or a mixture of the two. Drafting purely on need forces teams to reach for what they want and overvalue them. I'm not saying your pick was bad by any means, I don't think it was terrible, just offering some insight on "reaching."

I think it was a slight reach, but checkout who Mel Kiper has going to the Rams in that spot...

 

[WhoDeyIrish]

Same way I feel about Little. Glad he didn't come to ND. But this is the NFL. He is very talented and I think will be a huge get in the 2nd round.

I don't think that Greg Little goes that early. A lot of character concerns with him somewhat reminds me of Mike Williams from last year. Probably a 4th round pick or later. Loads of talent will end up being drafted in the later rounds. I've heard he wasn't very honest in his team interviews at the combine. I think he is loaded with talent and will be a steal later in the draft as long as he keeps his head on straight.

 

[mgriff]

I'd rather Baldwin personally, over Little, and I'm not an Insider, so I don't know who Mel has there, care to fill me in?

 

[WhoDeyIrish]

Mel has Liuget there.

 

[mgriff]

Yea, it wasn't a huge risk, I just don't rate him personally, but I have no bearing on any of this.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

The ever impatient Me2SouthBend is on the clock [/QUOTE]

C'mon Man. I was just trying to keep things moving. I appreciate your efforts and certainly don't mean to be a pain in the arse. Damn good thing I didn't take 20 hours to make the pick, that may have cost me.

 

[irishpat183]

I don't think that Greg Little goes that early. A lot of character concerns with him somewhat reminds me of Mike Williams from last year. Probably a 4th round pick or later. Loads of talent will end up being drafted in the later rounds. I've heard he wasn't very honest in his team interviews at the combine. I think he is loaded with talent and will be a steal later in the draft as long as he keeps his head on straight.

4th rounder?? Reallly?? I think somebody grabs him late 2nd...maybe early 3rd. I won't disagree with you about his character...but remember Cincy is always looking for the next character guy!

 

[mgriff]

The ever impatient Me2SouthBend is on the clock

C'mon Man. I was just trying to keep things moving. I appreciate your efforts and certainly don't mean to be a pain in the arse. Damn good thing I didn't take 20 hours to make the pick, that may have cost me.

And I was just giving you ****, hence the winky face

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Ofcourse Kiper also has Gabbert going 1...ugg

The only draft pundit I listen to is Mayock and Im not being a homer. I've thought he was the best for years now.

 

[WhoDeyIrish]

4th rounder?? Reallly?? I think somebody grabs him late 2nd...maybe early 3rd. I won't disagree with you about his character...but remember Cincy is always looking for the next character guy!

I've heard rumors he might not be drafted at all.