McDaniels Wins FORD Player of the Year

[IrishBlood81]

Pretty cool. I didn't really know what to expect from this kid and by his size didn't expect much to be honest. But this is really encouraging! I'm excited now


McDaniel Wins Prestigious Award


Go Cam!


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[NewEnglandGuy]

Kid is going to be a player. Congrats Cam!

 

[bert2834]

What do you mean by his size?

I have seen this alot on here and it boggles my mind.

Savon Huggins is 6 foot, 190 lbs.
Cam McDaniel is 5'11", 192 lbs. That is a little bulkier correct?

Also, 40 times are 4.55(SH) and 4.51(CM).

No idea what everyone else sees that I am not.

 

[irishff1014]

Congrats Cam glad to have you on the team.

 

[DillonHall]

What do you mean by his size?

I have seen this alot on here and it boggles my mind.

Savon Huggins is 6 foot, 190 lbs.
Cam McDaniel is 5'11", 192 lbs. That is a little bulkier correct?

Also, 40 times are 4.55(SH) and 4.51(CM).

No idea what everyone else sees that I am not.

It's because you're colorblind.

 

[kmoose]

What do you mean by his size?

I have seen this alot on here and it boggles my mind.

Savon Huggins is 6 foot, 190 lbs.
Cam McDaniel is 5'11", 192 lbs. That is a little bulkier correct?

Also, 40 times are 4.55(SH) and 4.51(CM).

No idea what everyone else sees that I am not.

McDaniel is about the same size that Ricky Watters was, when he left Notre Dame. I don't think his size will be much of an issue, as long as he can be all day tough.

 

[RyCo1983]

He's a player man...his numbers rank right up there with most of the top 10 running backs.

Cam will fit Kelly's offense like a glove.
Give him a few years to develop.

The sky is the limit if Kelly and Co. keep recruiting the way they have been.
DESTINED FOR GREATNESS

 

[NDPhilly]

I honestly and truthfully believe he is only three stars because he is white. When u watch his highlight film u would think he was a five star recruit.

 

[RyCo1983]

I honestly and truthfully believe he is only three stars because he is white. When u watch his highlight film u would think he was a five star recruit.

I'm with you on this one!
Reverse racism!

Who knows...he's got the measurables...thats for sure...I know he can bring it. Watch the video anyone who hasn't.

 

[MDewFiend]

When u watch his highlight film u would think he was a five star recruit.

Kinda the point of a highlight film no?


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[TexasNDFan]

This kid has game, he's played at a high level against some of the best competition in Texas. McDaniel fit's the classic mold of a third down back, but in Kelly's system, he will be a big part of the offense and will be utilized all over the field.

 

[Irish Insanity]

I'm with you on this one!
Reverse racism!
Who knows...he's got the measurables...thats for sure...I know he can bring it. Watch the video anyone who hasn't.

You can be racist against whites aswell. Its not reverse racism, just still racism.

 

[Old Man Mike]

When Kelly spoke of Cam at the film-highlights post-NSD presscon, he reiterated over and over one major thing that was impressing him, AND HE HINTED THAT McDANIEL WAS HIS ONLY BACK LIKE THIS : that he "ran downhill", he ran powerfully between the tackles, "downhill, downhill" over again. Coach thinks that McDaniel is a power back in a smaller body and he doesn't think his other guys are. I think that most of us rate Cam McDaniel WAY lower than Kelly does. I've been on his bandwagon ever since my brother told me that we got a knockout here.

 

[GreatGolson]

It's because you're colorblind.

thankyou for finally saying what no one else has had the grapes to say, and if i may piggyback on your notion, i feel that is the reason many people think Everett Golson is a run first QB, yes, there have been many successful african american quarterbacks who are talented runners, but just because of Vince Young, Tony Rice, and Mike Vick does not mean that all black qbs are run first guys.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

What everyone else is missing is Cam McDaniel’s shuttle time. As I remember it, he ran a faster time as a sophomore or junior in high school, than any of the players coming out of college (including the wide receivers) ran in the NFL combine last year.

That speaks to big time, dare I say “elite” acceleration.

As far as the rest of the discussion on this thread, I don't need the drama or controversy.

PS. Same size, played against better competition, is faster, and accelerates quicker, hmmm! Oh yes, and has a much better attitude. Compare him to Huggins signing press conference. I will take Cam over Huggins any day!

 

[RyCo1983]

You can be racist against whites aswell. Its not reverse racism, just still racism.

yes yes very true.

 

[ThePiombino]

You can be racist against whites as well. It's not reverse racism, just still racism.

Thank you!

 

[jmurphy75]

I honestly and truthfully believe he is only three stars because he is white. When u watch his highlight film u would think he was a five star recruit.

It happens all the time, if I'm not mistaken Toby Gerhart was only a 3*

 

[Rocket89]

His ability to not get tackled, without juking, is other-worldly.

Size shouldn't be an issue, especially at the college level and when he's going to be around 2 bills anyway. I honestly think some ND fans think our running backs have to be the size of linebackers (see discussions on Wood, Cierre) in order to be great.

McDaniel is SUPER quick and has elite instincts, even if he wasn't tough (he is) and isn't an every-down back (I don't see why he shouldn't be---I hate that term!), he is going to break off long runs and make people pay dearly a few times a game.

 

[Old Man Mike]

On the "other" less agreeable element that has crept into the thread: Kelly's color-blind; that's all we have to care about.

 

[irish1958]

For Kelly's offense, we have three very good backs; and even better, one third year, one second year and one first year.
This kid is going to be playing at 215-225# when the strength and conditioning program gets finished with him.
At 4.5-40 that is pretty good. (I can't believe I said that--my 40 time is probably 10+) If he can knock off 0.1 sec. of that: WOW

 

[irishpat183]

Cam will be a nice pick up. Like I said, he played high school ball with the best competition in the country. You have to be tough to play down here.

As far as him being the messiah that everyone in here thinks he is, I doubt that. I think he'll be a good back that will be able to do a lot of things well. Do I think he'll ever be a 1000 yard rusher? No. But I think he has the ablity to be a threat running and catching the football. I'm looking forward to watching him play.

 

[irishpat183]

For Kelly's offense, we have three very good backs; and even better, one third year, one second year and one first year.
This kid is going to be playing at 215-225# when the strength and conditioning program gets finished with him.
At 4.5-40 that is pretty good. (I can't believe I said that--my 40 time is probably 10+) If he can knock off 0.1 sec. of that: WOW

Highly unlikely he'll knock off .1 of his 40 while gaining 15-20lbs. It's going to be hard enough to maintain the speed he's at with that extra weight. Can't teach speed.

 

[Rocket89]

Cam will be a nice pick up. Like I said, he played high school ball with the best competition in the country. You have to be tough to play down here.

As far as him being the messiah that everyone in here thinks he is, I doubt that. I think he'll be a good back that will be able to do a lot of things well. Do I think he'll ever be a 1000 yard rusher? No. But I think he has the ablity to be a threat running and catching the football. I'm looking forward to watching him play.

Whoa, you broke out the messiah tag!?!?!? I think that's over-inflating people's excitement with Cam in the thread just a little bit.

Who cares about a 1,000 rusher? Such an archaic way of looking at things, especially when Kelly uses three or four running backs. I could get 1,000 yards if you gave me the ball 30 times a game.

When Kelly's system finally gets going full steam I think we'll see the carries get spread out a lot more even like during Holtz time. And by the way only three 1,000 yard rushers during the entire Holtz era (Brooks '92, Becton '93, Denson '96) and not even Jerome Bettis ran for 1K during any one season.

I'd like to see McDaniel be the kind of running back who comes in and touches the ball 4 times, but racks up 30 yards...especially early in his career.

 

[Rocket89]

Oh yeah, and I would be shocked to see McDaniel get up to 225. I'd say he settles in at around 205 as an upperclassman.

 

[Irish52]

I agree with Bogtrotter07;;;;let's not turn this thread or any other into a race issue. Race and ability are entirely separate issues. We got Cam and there is absolutely no need to critize Savon. True Notre Damers don't engage in race discussions on a football board.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

On the "other" less agreeable element that has crept into the thread: Kelly's color-blind; that's all we have to care about.

I agree with Bogtrotter07;;;;let's not turn this thread or any other into a race issue. Race and ability are entirely separate issues. We got Cam and there is absolutely no need to critize Savon. True Notre Damers don't engage in race discussions on a football board.

Thank you both! Glad to see a few of us around.

To Rocket89: As one of the most informed comentators on this board -

McDaniel is SUPER quick and has elite instincts, even if he wasn't tough (he is) and isn't an every-down back (I don't see why he shouldn't be---I hate that term!), he is going to break off long runs and make people pay dearly a few times a game.

Can you explain how important his shuttle time is? As I remember he was at 4.0 confirmed, and the fastest pro prospect was around 4.2 (4.17). If you would be so kind to explain what all the shuttle tests, like lateral movement, acceleration, etc., and how important these specific attributes are in a Kelly offense. I understand your point about Kelly's offense running the ball by comittee. I will wait for the answer and look for it to be released in paperback as well. TYVM.

 

[Riddickulous]

thankyou for finally saying what no one else has had the grapes to say, and if i may piggyback on your notion, i feel that is the reason many people think Everett Golson is a run first QB, yes, there have been many successful african american quarterbacks who are talented runners, but just because of Vince Young, Tony Rice, and Mike Vick does not mean that all black qbs are run first guys.

This always makes me think of the NCAA Football series, because 99.87% of the black QBs on that game are scramblers.

For Kelly's offense, we have three very good backs; and even better, one third year, one second year and one first year.
This kid is going to be playing at 215-225# when the strength and conditioning program gets finished with him.
At 4.5-40 that is pretty good. (I can't believe I said that--my 40 time is probably 10+) If he can knock off 0.1 sec. of that: WOW

We have three backs that have the potential to be very good, but I wouldn't call any of them "very good" at this point. Wood has the burst, but not the vision, all we know about Cam 1 is that he looked great on the scout team, and Cam 2 hasn't set foot on campus yet.

Cam will be a nice pick up. Like I said, he played high school ball with the best competition in the country. You have to be tough to play down here.

As far as him being the messiah that everyone in here thinks he is, I doubt that. I think he'll be a good back that will be able to do a lot of things well. Do I think he'll ever be a 1000 yard rusher? No. But I think he has the ablity to be a threat running and catching the football. I'm looking forward to watching him play.

Pretty much sums up his talents.

 

[Rocket89]

I would assume his shuttle time just reinforces what the film shows...he has elite quickness.

When Kelly talks about him running down hill, a lot of that is him bursting through the line super quickly. In a lot of guys highlight films they are kicking it outside, juking some guys and then using their speed to out-run everybody. You'll notice, McDaniel likes to find little creases in the line and get into the defensive secondary in a hurry. This is a huge positive for the spread offense.

And the other thing is, watch how many guys go to tackle him and completely whiff...without him juking. That's all quickness and instinct. A safety comes up and looks to be able to make a play, McDaniel makes a subtle shift, maybe throws out a stiff arm, and the safety gets three finger tips on his shins and gets blown by.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I see! THX! Never saw a back running, that reminds me more of my surfing days. Looks like he is riding a wave, hanging back, then pushing up through it. Covers the subtle shift thing too!

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