'12 OH QB Maty Mauk (Missouri Verbal)

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Word on the streets of Kenton is Maty is really liking Missouri.

Sure it's got a lot to do with the thick depth chart at ND and the thin depth chart at Missouri, which just got thinner with Gabbert leaving for the NFL.
 

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i wouldnt be surprised if he loses intrest with all quality QBs who are underclassmen (Hendrix, Rees, Massa, Golson)
 

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i wouldnt be surprised if he loses intrest with all quality QBs who are underclassmen (Hendrix, Rees, Massa, Golson)

I don't know how much depth affects kids when you have schools like USC with already 3 5*s on their roster signing another 5* and 4* this year. It would affect me... but it's clear a lot of kids aren't afraid of competition.
 

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I pointed out the likelihood of this happening when we started going after Golson and Brisset. I think the reason is simply that the staff wanted them more than Mauk and considered them better prospects.

It would be rather odd to have a good prospect come here when he's going to be buried on the depth chart behind Three freshman (one of whom might still red shirt), one sophmore and a five star junior. You aren't going to get to start for years.
 

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you forget im not Ridickulous, (aka Shaqevansisgod) i dont have a curse on me

HEY! I also jinxed Clausen (toe) and Floyd (collarbone) with my first username ClausentoFloyd.


But anyway...

Mauk is not a top priority recruit. Gunner Kiel is a far better prospect.

Look at his stats. He has thrown ~45 INTs in three years of high school against poor competition. You've got to be kidding me.

He also throws the football approximately 45 times per game, as opposed to somebody like Andrew Hendrix, who threw for 1,200 yards and 8 TDs as a senior.

His team runs up the score and goes for the onside kick all the time, from what I've heard.

I'm not impressed.
 

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Saw him on TV playing basketball last weekend and 6'2" might be stretching a bit as well.

If he wanted to go to ND I think it would already be a done deal. He's best served going somewhere where he can throw it 50 times a game. It won't happen, but he would be a very good MAC qb, however, he will probably end up somewhere a little too big for him. Kid is a super athlete, though.
 

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Isn't this only a verbal offer? I thought they could no longer offer scholarships until September 1st now. Some new rule or something.
 

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I always kind of chuckle when people talk about a kid being "scared of competition", particularly at the QB position.

I mean, you could be a three-time All-American but if you're on the bench because a truly special college football legend is 1st string, what do you do?
 

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I don't think ND wants him anymore. Cyler Miles is the guy the irish are going after. He was the most impressive QB down at the AA combine. Tall, athletic, and big arm. Mauk is an afterthought.
 

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If this is the player Kelly wants this is the player he will get. I fully trust his judgment in QB's.
 

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Who cares who we get at QB. Our defense is going to allow 0 ppg and score 7 a game on their own.

In seriousness, in due dilligence, Kelly is putting in work with all of these kids. There can be astounding differences between a kid's junior and senior year of HS. It's better to get in there with many of them than to try and play catchup when a kid explodes off the charts his senior year. We could go many different directions at this point @ QB for 2012.
 

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I want Gunner Kiel but Maty Mauk is still in the mix. To say he is an after thought is premature.
 

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I don't think ND wants him anymore. Cyler Miles is the guy the irish are going after. He was the most impressive QB down at the AA combine. Tall, athletic, and big arm. Mauk is an afterthought.

I'm not high on Mauk, but calling him an afterthought is pushing it. The staff obviously thinks he's worthy of an offer.
 

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I know Kelly is a QB coach and it's obviously a position you can't ignore, but with Crist (2 years), Rees (3 years), Hendrix (4 years), Massa (4 years), and Golson (4-5 years) already on the team, surely quarterback has got to be one of the lowest priority positions heading into 2012 recruiting?
 

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The think with Mauk is that he's a perfect fit for Kelly's offense, There will be more talented players but can they run this system as there lesser talented Mauk? In most cases I would say no, so unless ND can one of those few Kelly & Co. should be in the thick of it with Mauk.

Plus something is going to give with 1 of the 3, 2010 QB's IMO. Whether it's after the spring game or after next season I'm betting one of them moves on to go somewhere where they can get some PT.

So I bet it's all said and done ND takes 2 QB's in the 2012 recruiting class.
 

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The think with Mauk is that he's a perfect fit for Kelly's offense, There will be more talented players but can they run this system as there lesser talented Mauk?

Not to be an ***, but I'd say it's more like this offense is ideal for Mauk than Mauk is ideal for the offense.

In other words, he doesn't project as a college QB unless he goes to a spread school. Plenty of QBs can play the spread though.
 

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Not to be an ***, but I'd say it's more like this offense is ideal for Mauk than Mauk is ideal for the offense.

In other words, he doesn't project as a college QB unless he goes to a spread school. Plenty of QBs can play the spread though.
I hear you and I pretty much agree .

But it's like a conversation I had a couple of years ago with college football TV personality about TT and the ridiculous number that they were putting up week after week and what they could do if they were getting the Texas talent that UT and OU were pulling from the state.

Anyways the point I'm trying to make is in there conversation it was discussed that if OU's Bradford was at Texas Tech how much better would they be? The though was it would be minimal even though Bradford was a great talent with very bright NFL future whereas the TT QB didn't.

The reason was that the TT was built, tailor made to be a Mike Leach QB and at the college level he could match or possible succeed a top draft with future NFL star like Bradford could do in college in that system.

I'm tired and might not be making much sense at this point, seriously but I think this should get across the point I'm talking about.
 

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I know Kelly is a QB coach and it's obviously a position you can't ignore, but with Crist (2 years), Rees (3 years), Hendrix (4 years), Massa (4 years), and Golson (4-5 years) already on the team, surely quarterback has got to be one of the lowest priority positions heading into 2012 recruiting?

Kelly has stated before that they're going to get a QB pretty much every year.
 

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Mauk is visiting ND this weekend or next weekend. Read that yesterday on II. Cyler Miles still looks to be the #1 guy but Mauk could be a good back up. I read somewhere on probably not a strong source page that ND might not take a QB every year after Golson and next years guy gets established.
 

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Gotta feeling his stats are going to take a serious hit next year. He's losing 4 stud receivers and a couple linemen...could be a little rougher year for Maty and could cause his stock to fall a bit. I can see an early verbal by him for this reason and wouldn't be surprised if he turns into an early enrollee.
 

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Picked up a Michigan offer last week.

Maty Mauk | mgoblog

Also, an offer from Illinois, Bowling Green, and Kent St.

Also hearing from: Arkansas, Auburn, Louisville, Penn St., Kentucky, Iowa, and LSU.
 
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Meh. Michigan is in on Kiel also. We've still got the inside track for both.

I know a lot of people knock Mauk but he is mobile and has legit arm strength. You can also never underestimate the experience from all the reps he's taken. I'll be happy with any of the QBs we have offered right now. They all have different strengths.
 

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From what I understand, Mauk's offer from ND is not actionable right now. He's clearly not our first target.

I suspect we end up with Kiel as our QB recruit for the year, but I'd be happy with Miles too. Frankly, I'm not a Mauk fan.
 

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Mauk gets a lot of heat because of the system he plays in. Yes the stats are inflated, but that doesn't take away from the fact that he is a very good talent. He has a cannon for an arm and is a phenomenal athlete. He is what spread coaches salivate over. If he were 6'4" he'd be offered by everybody in the nation.

Personally, I can see him ending up in Missouri, which runs a similar style of offense.
 

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Mauk will be Chase Daniel for Mizzou but with far more arm strength. That's scary in their system.

On the subject of inflated stats: there was once a quarterback a few years ago who threw 91 touchdowns in a season for a school in the mountains of Kentucky (the state I live in). You heard that right: 91. He wasn't recruited by anyone except Eastern Kentucky, but found a way to walk on at Troy and actually started for them this year. But he wasn't even prospect according to Rivals because he wasn't even six feet tall and had minimal arm strength. He was a complete product of the system he played for.

Watch the tapes; Mauk can make any throw you ask of him. I'd argue that he has the best arm of any quarterback we've offered. He's a legit prospect and there's no argument against it.
 
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