On building mosques and burning Qur'ans

[mgriff]

Start flinging mud, a truly mature tactic. Let's come out and say theories so you can give the appearance that my stance isn't credible. Tell me I have growing up to do when I bring up a point you can't refute. Bravo.

 

[ACamp1900]

See, you say theories, I would say you read the other side of the argument before you pass judgment.

You're damn right man... lol

you're link sounded like something posted by Rosie O'Donnell... tell your theory isn't that planes didn't hit the towers and I'll take it back.... unitl then I won't give the site a hit, period. Also, you state what my conclusions are then balst me for them... then complain about me???

I'm not calling names here... I'm stating that anyone who thinks we are the bad guys in all this needs to grow up. and I'll stand by that...

Man, I defend the country and you go OFF Griff... sup with that?

btw, what point can't I refute?? the Iraq one?? Did we not give freedoms to the women and minorities of the nation?? Because it was you who didn't respond to that to begin with... don't know what to say aside from that man.

 

[RDU Irish]

Is this entire site going gay? This has been top of the page too long when there are tons of actual ND FOOTBALL articles out there to talk about. If I knew how to post a topic I would linky up the ISD article breaking down the offense. I would love to hear some thoughts from some of the users on the analysis.

Griff- go hug a freaking tree or a grassy knoll or a unicorn shooting rainbows out of its ass
Camp - just admit you hung up the sheets 25 years ago like all the other Glenn Beck rally attendees. Go Terry Tate on Bill Ayers and get it out of your system.

And yes, that is meant to be sarcasm not a personal attack on either of you.

 

[mgriff]

No, planes hit the towers, without question. There is actually an academic article on there which busts that theory. It talks about how it does a disservice to the whole movement. I'm telling you, click that link. It is all successful people in their fields, academic, military, intelligence, and civil service. They are presenting an academic case for alternatives the official explanation. The official explanation is bullshit, and they prove it.

You can defend the country all you want. I love this country unconditionally. What I don't love is our leadership, and the manner in which they have used our military, the best members of this country, in the past nine years. We've been sent to faraway lands to die for half truths and outright lies. Did we do some good in those countries? Sure we did. Was it morally right what we did? Hell no. We gave them freedoms, but we altered their entire culture. Just because it is right in our eyes, does not make it right in their eyes. We are not the morality police of the world, who define what is right and what is wrong. So for the deaths of at the very least, 500,000 Iraqis, they get freedom and women get the right to vote? That is okay? Just because we did some good over there does not erase the ills we've perpetrated.

 

[ACamp1900]

either way this is all just confusing the point... what Terrorists did, what we did, what the fucking Knights Templar did during the Crusades... that has nothing to do with anything...

we would not put up some major American Trade Center right next to the Dome of the Rock if and when it falls at the hand of some American mercenary because it would be in poor taste and offensive... not because we CAN'T... and you would think a group of Muslims who claim to be in the interest of bridge building with America would take the same angle... but they are not...

that's it, and that's all.

 

[mgriff]

either way this is all just confusing the point... what Terrorists did, what we did, what the fucking Knights Templar did during the Crusades... that has nothing to do with anything...

we would not put up some major American Trade Center right next to the Dome of the Rock if and when it falls at the hand of some American mercenary because it would be in poor taste and offensive... not because we CAN'T... and you would think a group of Muslims who claim to be in the interest of bridge building with America would take the same angle... but they are not...

that's it, and that's all.

This thread deviated from the mosque a long, long time ago. As for that, I think they should be able to build it as we have freedom of assembly, speech, and religion. Read that link if you'd like, so you can understand my point of view, and hit me back in a PM. We'll agree to disagree about the mosque issue.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

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